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scorpio · 09-18-2006, 12:39 PM

Here you go, fatties.

Marcus' guide to nutrition for weight loss

Gravithomer's Fat Loss Guide

ludo21 · 09-18-2006, 02:36 PM

I went on vacation to Colorado for the game and i went Rafting, Hiking all weekend

Master___Pain · 09-18-2006, 04:17 PM

Rhymes, it appears that you have received some sage advice so far.

Bypass the diet pills, thay are a waste of time

You don't drink soda so that's good.

If you are going to drink beer, go light. And don't have a twelver. It's best to cut out booze all together, but I like beer and red wine a lot so that my splurge "foods".

Try and eat these twelve powers foods every day

Almonds and other nuts/seeds
Good: Almonds, peanuts, walnuts, Brazil nuts, cashews, pecans, pine nuts, sunflower seeds, pumpkins seeds, avacados
Bad:Smoked and salted nuts
Why? The fat in these nuts/seeds helps suppress your appetite. Great mid-late day snack

Beans and legumes
Good:Soy beans, pinto, garbonzo(chickpeas) black beans, white beans, kidney beans, green beans, lentils, hummus, edamame
Bad: Refried beans or baked beans
Why? Lots of good protien, iron and fiber

Spinach and other greens (tough to get fresh spinach right now though)
Good: Spinach, broccoli, brussels sprouts, asparagus, peppers, field greens, romaine, arugala
Bad: Iceberg lettuce (basically it's all water. It's pretty much worthless)
Why? Lots of vitamins and good fiber.

Dairy, Fat free or Low fat
Good: Milk, yogurt, cheese, cottage cheese
Bad: Whole milk (lots o fat) frozen yogurt (lots o sugar)
Why? Calcium is a key ingredient to weight loss. You can also use the milk or yogurt as a base for a smoothie

Oatmeal (Get the one minute Oaker or store brand plain oats)
Good: Oatmeal and other high fiber cereals
Bad: Flavored or sweetened oatmeal
Why? Lowers cholesteral, sittfles the appetite
Tip use fresh/frozen berries with the oatmeal. Use honey as a sweetener

Eggs
Good: Eggs, egg whites, egg beaters
Bad: Loaded omelette
Why? The protien in eggs is better at building muscle than most other sources of protien
Tip: For quick scrambled eggs, beat them in a microwave safe bowl and nuke for 60-90 seconds.

Turkey and other lean meats
Good:Turkey, Chicken, fish (salmon and tuna in particular) shellfish, Canadian bacon, lean beef like extra lean ground beef, tenderloin, flank steak, london broil
Bad: Sausage, bacon, cured meats, ham, fatty cuts of steak
Why? It takes more enrgy to burn protien than carbs or fat, so you simply burn more calories by eating these meats. It's also got lots of protien to help build muscle.

Peanut Butter
Good: All natrual and sugar free peanut or almond butter
Bad: Sugary brands or transfaty peanut butters
Why? Contains monosaturated fats which help to keep you full and it tastes pretty good!

Olive Oil
Good: Olive Oil, canola oil, peanut oil, sesame oil
Bad:Vegatable oil and hydrogenated oils, trans fatty acids, margarine
Why? Same monosaturated fats as the peanut butter. Curbs cravings.

Whole Grain breads and cereals
Good: Whole grain bread and cereal, brown rice, whole wheat pretzels, whole wheat pasta, whole wheat tortillas
Bad: White bread, bagels, doughnuts, breads labeled as "wheat" not "whole wheat"
Why? Aids the digestion systems because these are fiber rich, keeps insulin levels low so you are less likely to store fat.

Extra-Protien Whey Powder
Good: Whey powder, ricotta cheese
Not as good: Soy Protien (Get the Whey powder)
Why? High quality protien that has amino acids, which build muscle and burns fat. Highest amount of protien in the least amount of calories.

Berries
Good: Rasberries, Blue berries, blackberries, strawberries, cranberries and other fruits like apples and pears
Bad: Jelly or preserves
Why? Lots of antioxidants and have fiber to keep you feeling full.
Tip: Blueberries are the most power packed of the bunch that are readily available. If you want something really good, try finding Acai (a brazilian palm fruit) at your local health food store. The stuff I like it made (into a pulp that great for smoothies) by a company called Sambazon.

Try to eat 6 times a day and workout at least three times a week

scorpio · 09-18-2006, 04:57 PM

I think you owe David Zinczenko $24.95

OrangeShadow · 09-18-2006, 06:15 PM

best way is to diet, excersise(i run a lot) and drink a lot of water

Bronco9798 · 09-18-2006, 06:53 PM

My favorite subject.

Never use the word "Diet" you set your self up for failure. Losing weight and maintaining your ideal weight is about "Life change". It's actually easy to lose weight, it's harder to maintain it once you lose it.

Losing weight is all about two things. Food and Excercise. Don't deprive yourself of food to lose weight. You have to eat to lose weight. Eating 5 or 6 small meals a day is the perfect way to keep your motor burning and burning calories all day long. Never miss Breakfast. It's like starting your motor. You want to feed your body with fuel (food) every 3 to 4 hours to keep your metabolic rate working.

Foods to avoid are almost anything white. Bread, rice, potatos, etc. I eat whole wheat bread, Brown rice, Sweet potatos, etc., There are a ton of good foods to eat. Just avoid chips, fast foods, and the high carbs stuff.
Pretty easy really. I snack on almonds, protien bars, yogurt, etc., I also eat two MRP's day. (Meal Replacement Powders). These are great for one or two of your 6 meals a day.

Excercise is the key though. I lift two to three days a week and run 4 to 5 times days a week. The best excercise for burning body fat is interval training on a treadmill. It only takes 20 minutes and is "High-Impact" training. It basically consists of Walking, jogging, and sprinting in 30 sec to 1 minute intervals for 20 minutes. It's tough but if you want quick results, try it.

Don't think you have to drink water to lose weight. You need to keep your body hydrated but water isn't the only solution. That theory is overrated. You can drink diet pop, unsweeted tea, etc. Just make sure it has no calories in it. People tend to drink to much of their daily caloric intake instead of eating it.

I weigh 185 and I'm 6'1. Ive maintained my weight for 10 years now. I started out with the body for life program and then adjusted it to fit my needs.

There's a lot more you can do. But those are some things I would suggest.

RhymesayersDU · 09-18-2006, 07:08 PM

Thanks for the advice. I've already started off poorly, as I've been eating way less (in the realm of depriving myself) than I normally do. I shall start tinkering with my diet to get some good meals in throughout the day.

Bronco9798 · 09-18-2006, 07:16 PM

Never let a bad day or time bother you, but don't try to compensate for it either. Just start freash again the day after you blow it. Nothing wrong with a little failure along the way. And, once you get a few weeks in. Cheat like hell for one day. Fast food, ice cream chips, what ever junk you like. One day won't hurt you. Just pick it up for the next week. Then treat yourself in a couple weeks again.

ant1999e · 09-18-2006, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

How long did it take you to find that?

BroncoBuff · 09-19-2006, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ant1999e

How long did it take you to find that?

It's about time somebody gave me props on that!

I found it in .82 seconds or something (I was looking for something else, actually) ... but it took FORTY FREAKING MINUTES to Photo-Shop in the chains and change the word on the bottom to "CHAINS"

(I really need to get a life *SIGH*

)

Here's the original:

Spider · 09-19-2006, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

It's about time somebody gave me props on that!

I found it in .82 seconds or something (I was looking for something else, actually) ... but it took FORTY FREAKING MINUTES to Photo-Shop in the chains and change the word on the bottom to "CHAINS"

(I really need to get a life *SIGH*

)

Here's the original:

I missed it

..............

Billy Clyde Puckett · 09-19-2006, 06:36 AM

So how about we get this Orange Mane Weight loss challenge going. anyone got an idea of how to organize it?

Master___Pain · 09-19-2006, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio

I think you owe David Zinczenko $24.95

, he's already been paid!!

ludo21 · 09-19-2006, 04:49 PM

I try and run a couple times a week, and try to do crunches 3x a week.

"TRY" is the key word,

I really need to be consistent!!

BroncoBuff · 09-19-2006, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Guy

So how about we get this Orange Mane Weight loss challenge going. anyone got an idea of how to organize it?

First I think we need a new thread .... I don't mind starting it, but we should decide on some parameters:

1) Obviously, it's all on the honor system
2) We should bar (or at least try to bar) insults
3) Nobody has to list their ACTUAL weight ... well just use a "00" and "-4" or "-12" or (heaven forbid) "+6" type of progress tracking.
4) Each person who wishes to join should post a "I'm starting today. Current: 00 " on the date they start, because they might come in a week after the others and should not be penalized by comparison and implication.

Peronally, I'm against any 'competitive' tack to the thing ...

ludo21 · 09-19-2006, 06:10 PM

I think making it 'Competitive" is a great thing.

Makes for people to hold themselves accountable and get their butt in shape.

Start er up, ive already lost 1000 lbs. Do i win?

Billy Clyde Puckett · 09-20-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

First I think we need a new thread .... I don't mind starting it, but we should decide on some parameters:

1) Obviously, it's all on the honor system
2) We should bar (or at least try to bar) insults
3) Nobody has to list their ACTUAL weight ... well just use a "00" and "-4" or "-12" or (heaven forbid) "+6" type of progress tracking.
4) Each person who wishes to join should post a "I'm starting today. Current: 00 " on the date they start, because they might come in a week after the others and should not be penalized by comparison and implication.

Peronally, I'm against any 'competitive' tack to the thing ...

Agree on the new thread and the "no insults" policy. #4 sounds fine and I really don't care about #3. I would not be adverse to divulging my weight, height and age (to show youngsters it is harder as you get older

)

I think everyone should let others know their diet and exercise plan so that we can see what works for everyone.

RhymesayersDU · 09-20-2006, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Guy

I think everyone should let others know their diet and exercise plan so that we can see what works for everyone.

This is most important thing, IMO. Tell people what you're doing, what you're buying, cooking, etc. Obviously everybody's bodies respond differently to things, but suggestions/tips will be crucial to all our success.

I would like to call this competition "The Biggest Loser" like they do on NBC, but the Mane already has a biggest loser named Bob. So no dice on that.

RhymesayersDU · 09-23-2006, 06:47 PM

So, to revive this thread, here's some info for me:

I've lost 5 pounds in the last week/week and a half since I really started watching my diet.

I eat about 1000 calories a day max, and spread it out as much as possible. The whole, 6 small meals a day thing kinda is hard with work and other activities, but I try. I basically cut out all sweets. I did eat a fun size baby ruth the other day, but I think that is the worst thing I've had in like 2 weeks... Which doesn't sound like very long, but I love chocolate, flat out, so it's a big win for my will power.

For those of you who have a sweet tooth (and believe me, I am one) I highly suggest buying the sampler pack of popsicles that are sugar free. They come with 20 bars, and they have popsicles, fudgsicles, and creamsicles in the box. The fudgcicles are like 40 calories, and they taste like chocolate, so it's a nice little snack. Also, I enjoy sugar free jello.

Also, I suggest doing a somewhat modified Atkins diet. Now, I'm not saying you have to watch carbs, and hell, I still don't eat bacon and other fatty stuff like that, but carbs are still bad, and things like big bowls of pasta will only hurt you. I've been eating things like a lean steak with a side of broccoli for dinner. The broccoli I make is sautee'd with butter, but it's that Promise butter suggested earlier in this thread, and is considerably healthier then other butters. So the broccolli has a great taste and is still really healthy. I don't use the A1 or 57 Sauce with the steak like I used to.

So, it's not a no-carb diet per se, but focusing on fruits and veggies and eating lean meats is a great way to really get going. Plus the protein helps with the workouts.

I work out every afternoon. I do about 33 minutes on the eliptical machine (SP?) that burns 400+ calories, then I do some light weights... Nothing major, just right now bench, biceps, and triceps. I do want to expand the weights, but I think that will happen when I lose more weight, and I expand the weights and perhaps go lighter on the cardio. I'm not lifting for power (i.e., lots of weight, few reps) but to make the areas lean (i.e., lower weight, lots of reps) and it's nice. Plus I start every day at 5 PM, because I do my 30 minutes of the elyptical during the Simpsons, and it flies by. My mom prefers music when she works out, but I find having to follow a plot, concentrate on what's going on on the TV, really takes your mind off the work.

I'm also considering trying out those Ensure health-shake things. They seem like a healthy way to replace a full meal, but I need to get to the grocery store, check out the health label, etc.

Anyways, how is everybody else doing?

Sassy · 09-23-2006, 07:04 PM

I like the "I can't believe it's not butter" spray...it even works well on toast and veggies.!

(I've lost a few pounds too!)

What I cut out:
Sweets/Baked goods
Fast Food
Butter/Margarine
(not saying I don't cheat once in awhile...like in Denver all last weekend but...)

I'm making more smoothies with fresh fruit and eating more veggies...and pretty much eating Weight Watchers/Lean Cuisines for lunch. I also switched from Breves (espresso with 1/2 and 1/2 to lattes with skim milk). I've also been riding bike and going to water aerobics. I've cut down on "big" meals and I am eating smaller amounts during the day.

Good luck everyone! It's not easy...but it's well worth it!

Sassy · 09-27-2006, 09:12 PM

How's it going Rhymesayers?

RhymesayersDU · 09-27-2006, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy

How's it going Rhymesayers?

It's going well! The thing that is confusing me is this issue with calorie intake. After posting here as well as other places that I'm only eating around 1,000 calories today, many people told me that wasn't good, that I need more, etc.

What I don't get is, why is it wrong? I'm not starving myself by any means, I just substituted foods. For example, instead of eating a greasy burger and fries, I'm eating a grilled chicken sandwhich and a side salad. Instead of eating ice cream for dessert, I'm eating fruit or sugarless popsicles.

So, I'm at a crossroads, so to speak. I really need to find a nutrionist to talk with so I can get on the right track. But as far as food goes, It's been good cutting out the sweets and stuff. It does kind of suck at times, because sometimes you just want a slice of pizza or a burger, but there is a lot of good healthy food to be had out there.

But working out is going really well, doing the elyptical machine and hitting the weights daily. It's been feeling really good to get out there and do it, be active, etc.

How about anybody else? This thread kinda died out minus Sassy and I.

Spider · 09-27-2006, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

It's going well! The thing that is confusing me is this issue with calorie intake. After posting here as well as other places that I'm only eating around 1,000 calories today, many people told me that wasn't good, that I need more, etc.

What I don't get is, why is it wrong? I'm not starving myself by any means, I just substituted foods. For example, instead of eating a greasy burger and fries, I'm eating a grilled chicken sandwhich and a side salad. Instead of eating ice cream for dessert, I'm eating fruit or sugarless popsicles.

So, I'm at a crossroads, so to speak. I really need to find a nutrionist to talk with so I can get on the right track. But as far as food goes, It's been good cutting out the sweets and stuff. It does kind of suck at times, because sometimes you just want a slice of pizza or a burger, but there is a lot of good healthy food to be had out there.

But working out is going really well, doing the elyptical machine and hitting the weights daily. It's been feeling really good to get out there and do it, be active, etc.

How about anybody else? This thread kinda died out minus Sassy and I.

Calories give you energy , you need some ..........glad things are going well ......... I wish I could give you some post hole diggers and let you do some fense repair on Tims Ranch , that will whip you into shape in no time

Sassy · 09-27-2006, 10:17 PM

Sweet tooth? Swap the lollies for sugarless chewing gum. 10 Jelly Beans has 100 Calories. Give them up or go up a dress size each year.

Low fat foods can still be high in sugar, Sugary kids breakfast cereals are low fat but a small bowl full (30 grams) has almost 4 teaspoons sugar!

A burger will contain between 3 and 5 teaspoons of fat and 400-500 Calories. I hope you like a clean house because you will need to spend between 1.5 to 2 hours vacuuming to burn off these Calories.

Be careful with alcohol - it dilutes your willpower. Make your first drink non-alcoholic and kilojoule free (water or a diet drink) this is the one you usually drink the fastest.

Try a big bowl of vegetable soup or plate of salad before a party to help you avoid the snacks. A small packet of potato crisps plus some crackers and dip could set you back 500 Calories. That 1 hour and 50 minutes of scrubbing and sweeping floors after the party.

If you replace 1 slice regular cheddar cheese (that's 30 grams or a 3cm cube) a day with a 25% fat reduced cheese you will save the equivalent Calories of 4 kilogram in body weight a year.

Trade milk for chocolate without guilt. Swap your regular milk for skim milk and you save enough Calories to have Mars Lite funsize chocolate bar every day. (Based on 500mls of milk per day).

Did you know that your average milkshake has a calorie value that takes 7.5 kilometers to walk off?

Do you enjoy a coffee? Then give yourself a break. Switching a daily cappuccino from full fat to skinny saves you 2 kilos in weight a year (3 kilos if you usually upsize to a large).

Swapping a daily can of softdrink to diet softdrink will save you enough Calories in one year equivalent to about 8 kilograms of body weight.

Learn to drop the biscuits with your cuppa! For every 2 chocolate biscuits you will have to run 4 kilometres if you don't want to gain weight.

Switch from premium ice cream to low fat to save 70 Calories per 2 scoops. If you have 2 scoops per day that's 3.6 kilogram in weight saved a year.

Stir fry your vegetables using oil spray only. This has about 100 Calories and virtually no fat, compared to a plate of roasted vegetables and gravy at over 400 Cal and 4 teaspoons of fat.

A healthy sandwich daily instead of a burger will save you about 7 kilograms of body weight in a year.

Always keep fruit in your bag. If you feel hungry then there is no need to go to grab a cake. One slice carrot cake equals has the same Calories as about 5 apples.

10 jelly beans a day equal a weight gain of 100 grams a week. That is about 5 kilograms in body weight over a year.

Get a good night's sleep - research shows those who sleep less than 5hours a night are 70% more likely to be obese.

To burn up the Calories from a daily can of softdrink you would have to walk 21 kilometres a week or 1092 km per year (roughly the same as walking from Sydney to Melbourne).

Avoid cocktails - they are deadly for weight gain with some up to 500 Calories per drink. That's a 2 and a half hour walk to burn off each cocktail.

Would you like fries with that? A medium serve of fries contains 320 Calories and 4 teaspoons of fat. That will take 1 and half hours to walk off or you could run for 35 minutes!

Jason in LA · 09-27-2006, 11:57 PM

Fat burners, like any other supplement, only work if you have a clean diet and a good workout program. If you aren't eating right, or working out, fat burners won't do anything for you. Neither will any other supplement. Remember, a supplement is supposed to enhance a good diet and workout program, not take the place of either one.

I look at it like this. I'll use a point system. Diet gets 50 points. Workout program gets 50 points. If I maximize both of them, I'm working at 100%. When I'm at 100%, the right combination of supplements can be worth an extra 20 or so points. So now I'm working at 120%, which is really good.

Now lets say my diet is only getting me 40 points, meaning I'm lacking in some area of my diet. And my workout program is only 40 points, so I'm not working out my hardest. I'm only getting 80 points. So those same exact supplements that got me 20 extra point before may only be worth 5 points now, because I'm lacking in some important areas. If I'm only working at 50%, meaning that I'm barely working out, and I'm only eating a little better, those same supplements aren't going to be worth any points.

I hope that makes sense. If you workout hard, and consistant, and you have a good diet, fat burners, and supplements like whey protein and creatine, will work great. If you eat like crap, or don't workout hard, you'll be wasting your money.

Now about fat burners, I've used them and gotten good results, especailly ephedra. That stuff has a kick. It's hard to find, but you can still get it. But be very careful when you use it. I only used it before I went running. The lable says take it twice a day. But I only took it once, before I ran, which was 2-3 times a week. So I wasn't taking much of the stuff. The people who had problems with it were people who took too much of the stuff. These newer fat burners don't have the same kick, but they still work well.

For your diet and workout programs, I suggest you read Muscle & Fitness. It's a body building magazine that geared towards the everyday person. Flex, Musclemag and Ironman are geared toward the muslce heads who want to be 250 lbs with 6% body fat. I don't think any of us are looking for that look. Muscle & Fitness will diagram a workout and diet program for you, and it will teach you how to be your own personal trainer.

I hope that helps, and good luck.

09-23-2006, 07:04 PM	#45
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	I like the "I can't believe it's not butter" spray...it even works well on toast and veggies.! (I've lost a few pounds too!) What I cut out: Sweets/Baked goods Fast Food Butter/Margarine (not saying I don't cheat once in awhile...like in Denver all last weekend but...) I'm making more smoothies with fresh fruit and eating more veggies...and pretty much eating Weight Watchers/Lean Cuisines for lunch. I also switched from Breves (espresso with 1/2 and 1/2 to lattes with skim milk). I've also been riding bike and going to water aerobics. I've cut down on "big" meals and I am eating smaller amounts during the day. Good luck everyone! It's not easy...but it's well worth it! Last edited by Sassy; 09-23-2006 at 07:22 PM..

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09-18-2006, 12:39 PM	#26
scorpio Cubicle Pimp Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,498	Here you go, fatties. Marcus' guide to nutrition for weight loss Gravithomer's Fat Loss Guide

09-18-2006, 02:36 PM	#27
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	I went on vacation to Colorado for the game and i went Rafting, Hiking all weekend

09-18-2006, 04:17 PM	#28
Master___Pain Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Springs Posts: 4,605 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rock Hoover	Rhymes, it appears that you have received some sage advice so far. Bypass the diet pills, thay are a waste of time You don't drink soda so that's good. If you are going to drink beer, go light. And don't have a twelver. It's best to cut out booze all together, but I like beer and red wine a lot so that my splurge "foods". Try and eat these twelve powers foods every day Almonds and other nuts/seeds Good: Almonds, peanuts, walnuts, Brazil nuts, cashews, pecans, pine nuts, sunflower seeds, pumpkins seeds, avacados Bad:Smoked and salted nuts Why? The fat in these nuts/seeds helps suppress your appetite. Great mid-late day snack Beans and legumes Good:Soy beans, pinto, garbonzo(chickpeas) black beans, white beans, kidney beans, green beans, lentils, hummus, edamame Bad: Refried beans or baked beans Why? Lots of good protien, iron and fiber Spinach and other greens (tough to get fresh spinach right now though) Good: Spinach, broccoli, brussels sprouts, asparagus, peppers, field greens, romaine, arugala Bad: Iceberg lettuce (basically it's all water. It's pretty much worthless) Why? Lots of vitamins and good fiber. Dairy, Fat free or Low fat Good: Milk, yogurt, cheese, cottage cheese Bad: Whole milk (lots o fat) frozen yogurt (lots o sugar) Why? Calcium is a key ingredient to weight loss. You can also use the milk or yogurt as a base for a smoothie Oatmeal (Get the one minute Oaker or store brand plain oats) Good: Oatmeal and other high fiber cereals Bad: Flavored or sweetened oatmeal Why? Lowers cholesteral, sittfles the appetite Tip use fresh/frozen berries with the oatmeal. Use honey as a sweetener Eggs Good: Eggs, egg whites, egg beaters Bad: Loaded omelette Why? The protien in eggs is better at building muscle than most other sources of protien Tip: For quick scrambled eggs, beat them in a microwave safe bowl and nuke for 60-90 seconds. Turkey and other lean meats Good:Turkey, Chicken, fish (salmon and tuna in particular) shellfish, Canadian bacon, lean beef like extra lean ground beef, tenderloin, flank steak, london broil Bad: Sausage, bacon, cured meats, ham, fatty cuts of steak Why? It takes more enrgy to burn protien than carbs or fat, so you simply burn more calories by eating these meats. It's also got lots of protien to help build muscle. Peanut Butter Good: All natrual and sugar free peanut or almond butter Bad: Sugary brands or transfaty peanut butters Why? Contains monosaturated fats which help to keep you full and it tastes pretty good! Olive Oil Good: Olive Oil, canola oil, peanut oil, sesame oil Bad:Vegatable oil and hydrogenated oils, trans fatty acids, margarine Why? Same monosaturated fats as the peanut butter. Curbs cravings. Whole Grain breads and cereals Good: Whole grain bread and cereal, brown rice, whole wheat pretzels, whole wheat pasta, whole wheat tortillas Bad: White bread, bagels, doughnuts, breads labeled as "wheat" not "whole wheat" Why? Aids the digestion systems because these are fiber rich, keeps insulin levels low so you are less likely to store fat. Extra-Protien Whey Powder Good: Whey powder, ricotta cheese Not as good: Soy Protien (Get the Whey powder) Why? High quality protien that has amino acids, which build muscle and burns fat. Highest amount of protien in the least amount of calories. Berries Good: Rasberries, Blue berries, blackberries, strawberries, cranberries and other fruits like apples and pears Bad: Jelly or preserves Why? Lots of antioxidants and have fiber to keep you feeling full. Tip: Blueberries are the most power packed of the bunch that are readily available. If you want something really good, try finding Acai (a brazilian palm fruit) at your local health food store. The stuff I like it made (into a pulp that great for smoothies) by a company called Sambazon. Try to eat 6 times a day and workout at least three times a week

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OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	best way is to diet, excersise(i run a lot) and drink a lot of water

09-18-2006, 06:53 PM	#31
Bronco9798 Two Time World Champions Boom Goes The Dynamite Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a Van Down By the River Posts: 2,353 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	My favorite subject. Never use the word "Diet" you set your self up for failure. Losing weight and maintaining your ideal weight is about "Life change". It's actually easy to lose weight, it's harder to maintain it once you lose it. Losing weight is all about two things. Food and Excercise. Don't deprive yourself of food to lose weight. You have to eat to lose weight. Eating 5 or 6 small meals a day is the perfect way to keep your motor burning and burning calories all day long. Never miss Breakfast. It's like starting your motor. You want to feed your body with fuel (food) every 3 to 4 hours to keep your metabolic rate working. Foods to avoid are almost anything white. Bread, rice, potatos, etc. I eat whole wheat bread, Brown rice, Sweet potatos, etc., There are a ton of good foods to eat. Just avoid chips, fast foods, and the high carbs stuff. Pretty easy really. I snack on almonds, protien bars, yogurt, etc., I also eat two MRP's day. (Meal Replacement Powders). These are great for one or two of your 6 meals a day. Excercise is the key though. I lift two to three days a week and run 4 to 5 times days a week. The best excercise for burning body fat is interval training on a treadmill. It only takes 20 minutes and is "High-Impact" training. It basically consists of Walking, jogging, and sprinting in 30 sec to 1 minute intervals for 20 minutes. It's tough but if you want quick results, try it. Don't think you have to drink water to lose weight. You need to keep your body hydrated but water isn't the only solution. That theory is overrated. You can drink diet pop, unsweeted tea, etc. Just make sure it has no calories in it. People tend to drink to much of their daily caloric intake instead of eating it. I weigh 185 and I'm 6'1. Ive maintained my weight for 10 years now. I started out with the body for life program and then adjusted it to fit my needs. There's a lot more you can do. But those are some things I would suggest.

09-18-2006, 07:08 PM	#32
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,813 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Thanks for the advice. I've already started off poorly, as I've been eating way less (in the realm of depriving myself) than I normally do. I shall start tinkering with my diet to get some good meals in throughout the day.

09-18-2006, 07:16 PM	#33
Bronco9798 Two Time World Champions Boom Goes The Dynamite Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a Van Down By the River Posts: 2,353 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Never let a bad day or time bother you, but don't try to compensate for it either. Just start freash again the day after you blow it. Nothing wrong with a little failure along the way. And, once you get a few weeks in. Cheat like hell for one day. Fast food, ice cream chips, what ever junk you like. One day won't hurt you. Just pick it up for the next week. Then treat yourself in a couple weeks again.

09-19-2006, 06:36 AM	#37
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	So how about we get this Orange Mane Weight loss challenge going. anyone got an idea of how to organize it?

09-19-2006, 04:49 PM	#39
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	I try and run a couple times a week, and try to do crunches 3x a week. "TRY" is the key word, I really need to be consistent!!

09-19-2006, 06:10 PM	#41
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	I think making it 'Competitive" is a great thing. Makes for people to hold themselves accountable and get their butt in shape. Start er up, ive already lost 1000 lbs. Do i win?

09-23-2006, 06:47 PM	#44
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,813 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	So, to revive this thread, here's some info for me: I've lost 5 pounds in the last week/week and a half since I really started watching my diet. I eat about 1000 calories a day max, and spread it out as much as possible. The whole, 6 small meals a day thing kinda is hard with work and other activities, but I try. I basically cut out all sweets. I did eat a fun size baby ruth the other day, but I think that is the worst thing I've had in like 2 weeks... Which doesn't sound like very long, but I love chocolate, flat out, so it's a big win for my will power. For those of you who have a sweet tooth (and believe me, I am one) I highly suggest buying the sampler pack of popsicles that are sugar free. They come with 20 bars, and they have popsicles, fudgsicles, and creamsicles in the box. The fudgcicles are like 40 calories, and they taste like chocolate, so it's a nice little snack. Also, I enjoy sugar free jello. Also, I suggest doing a somewhat modified Atkins diet. Now, I'm not saying you have to watch carbs, and hell, I still don't eat bacon and other fatty stuff like that, but carbs are still bad, and things like big bowls of pasta will only hurt you. I've been eating things like a lean steak with a side of broccoli for dinner. The broccoli I make is sautee'd with butter, but it's that Promise butter suggested earlier in this thread, and is considerably healthier then other butters. So the broccolli has a great taste and is still really healthy. I don't use the A1 or 57 Sauce with the steak like I used to. So, it's not a no-carb diet per se, but focusing on fruits and veggies and eating lean meats is a great way to really get going. Plus the protein helps with the workouts. I work out every afternoon. I do about 33 minutes on the eliptical machine (SP?) that burns 400+ calories, then I do some light weights... Nothing major, just right now bench, biceps, and triceps. I do want to expand the weights, but I think that will happen when I lose more weight, and I expand the weights and perhaps go lighter on the cardio. I'm not lifting for power (i.e., lots of weight, few reps) but to make the areas lean (i.e., lower weight, lots of reps) and it's nice. Plus I start every day at 5 PM, because I do my 30 minutes of the elyptical during the Simpsons, and it flies by. My mom prefers music when she works out, but I find having to follow a plot, concentrate on what's going on on the TV, really takes your mind off the work. I'm also considering trying out those Ensure health-shake things. They seem like a healthy way to replace a full meal, but I need to get to the grocery store, check out the health label, etc. Anyways, how is everybody else doing?

09-27-2006, 09:12 PM	#46
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	How's it going Rhymesayers?

09-27-2006, 10:17 PM	#49
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Sweet tooth? Swap the lollies for sugarless chewing gum. 10 Jelly Beans has 100 Calories. Give them up or go up a dress size each year. Low fat foods can still be high in sugar, Sugary kids breakfast cereals are low fat but a small bowl full (30 grams) has almost 4 teaspoons sugar! A burger will contain between 3 and 5 teaspoons of fat and 400-500 Calories. I hope you like a clean house because you will need to spend between 1.5 to 2 hours vacuuming to burn off these Calories. Be careful with alcohol - it dilutes your willpower. Make your first drink non-alcoholic and kilojoule free (water or a diet drink) this is the one you usually drink the fastest. Try a big bowl of vegetable soup or plate of salad before a party to help you avoid the snacks. A small packet of potato crisps plus some crackers and dip could set you back 500 Calories. That 1 hour and 50 minutes of scrubbing and sweeping floors after the party. If you replace 1 slice regular cheddar cheese (that's 30 grams or a 3cm cube) a day with a 25% fat reduced cheese you will save the equivalent Calories of 4 kilogram in body weight a year. Trade milk for chocolate without guilt. Swap your regular milk for skim milk and you save enough Calories to have Mars Lite funsize chocolate bar every day. (Based on 500mls of milk per day). Did you know that your average milkshake has a calorie value that takes 7.5 kilometers to walk off? Do you enjoy a coffee? Then give yourself a break. Switching a daily cappuccino from full fat to skinny saves you 2 kilos in weight a year (3 kilos if you usually upsize to a large). Swapping a daily can of softdrink to diet softdrink will save you enough Calories in one year equivalent to about 8 kilograms of body weight. Learn to drop the biscuits with your cuppa! For every 2 chocolate biscuits you will have to run 4 kilometres if you don't want to gain weight. Switch from premium ice cream to low fat to save 70 Calories per 2 scoops. If you have 2 scoops per day that's 3.6 kilogram in weight saved a year. Stir fry your vegetables using oil spray only. This has about 100 Calories and virtually no fat, compared to a plate of roasted vegetables and gravy at over 400 Cal and 4 teaspoons of fat. A healthy sandwich daily instead of a burger will save you about 7 kilograms of body weight in a year. Always keep fruit in your bag. If you feel hungry then there is no need to go to grab a cake. One slice carrot cake equals has the same Calories as about 5 apples. 10 jelly beans a day equal a weight gain of 100 grams a week. That is about 5 kilograms in body weight over a year. Get a good night's sleep - research shows those who sleep less than 5hours a night are 70% more likely to be obese. To burn up the Calories from a daily can of softdrink you would have to walk 21 kilometres a week or 1092 km per year (roughly the same as walking from Sydney to Melbourne). Avoid cocktails - they are deadly for weight gain with some up to 500 Calories per drink. That's a 2 and a half hour walk to burn off each cocktail. Would you like fries with that? A medium serve of fries contains 320 Calories and 4 teaspoons of fat. That will take 1 and half hours to walk off or you could run for 35 minutes!

09-27-2006, 11:57 PM	#50
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,253	Fat burners, like any other supplement, only work if you have a clean diet and a good workout program. If you aren't eating right, or working out, fat burners won't do anything for you. Neither will any other supplement. Remember, a supplement is supposed to enhance a good diet and workout program, not take the place of either one. I look at it like this. I'll use a point system. Diet gets 50 points. Workout program gets 50 points. If I maximize both of them, I'm working at 100%. When I'm at 100%, the right combination of supplements can be worth an extra 20 or so points. So now I'm working at 120%, which is really good. Now lets say my diet is only getting me 40 points, meaning I'm lacking in some area of my diet. And my workout program is only 40 points, so I'm not working out my hardest. I'm only getting 80 points. So those same exact supplements that got me 20 extra point before may only be worth 5 points now, because I'm lacking in some important areas. If I'm only working at 50%, meaning that I'm barely working out, and I'm only eating a little better, those same supplements aren't going to be worth any points. I hope that makes sense. If you workout hard, and consistant, and you have a good diet, fat burners, and supplements like whey protein and creatine, will work great. If you eat like crap, or don't workout hard, you'll be wasting your money. Now about fat burners, I've used them and gotten good results, especailly ephedra. That stuff has a kick. It's hard to find, but you can still get it. But be very careful when you use it. I only used it before I went running. The lable says take it twice a day. But I only took it once, before I ran, which was 2-3 times a week. So I wasn't taking much of the stuff. The people who had problems with it were people who took too much of the stuff. These newer fat burners don't have the same kick, but they still work well. For your diet and workout programs, I suggest you read Muscle & Fitness. It's a body building magazine that geared towards the everyday person. Flex, Musclemag and Ironman are geared toward the muslce heads who want to be 250 lbs with 6% body fat. I don't think any of us are looking for that look. Muscle & Fitness will diagram a workout and diet program for you, and it will teach you how to be your own personal trainer. I hope that helps, and good luck.