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Guilty as charged, I want to see a two game preview of Jay 47 29.38%
Are you nuts jay's time will come soon enough 113 70.63%
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:54 PM   #1
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Default OK fess up how many of you secretly hope....

Plummer gets a little owie and misses a couple of games this season so you can see what Jay can do?
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:57 PM   #2
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Plummer gets a little owie and misses a couple of games this season so you can see what Jay can do?
I don't. Superbowl or bust... We have no time for show and tell with our shiny new first round QB.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:03 AM   #3
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There's a part of me that hopes that if Jake went down, Jay could step up like Brady or Rothlisburger. My hope isn't born from wising injury on Jake, but from the hope that we can pick up the slack of an injured player.

For perspective, I have the same feelings about other backups like the linebackers, running backs, and safeties. I think the difference is that those other players would become backups again once their respective starters healed up, whereas Jay would take the spot permanantly.

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I think Jay should start the latter half of the season. I think that our offense will be better under Jay. I think that Jay will scare more defensive coordinators than Jake does, and I think Cutler will be amazing.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:06 AM   #5
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I don't want to see it happen. I still want Cutler to have his redshirt year.

But if it did happen, we just might see history repeat itself.

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Old 09-07-2006, 12:07 AM   #6
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As a Cutler homer I think sitting in 06 is best for all.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:13 AM   #7
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There's a part of me that hopes that if Jake went down, Jay could step up like Brady or Rothlisburger. My hope isn't born from wising injury on Jake, but from the hope that we can pick up the slack of an injured player.

For perspective, I have the same feelings about other backups like the linebackers, running backs, and safeties. I think the difference is that those other players would become backups again once their respective starters healed up, whereas Jay would take the spot permanantly.

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I think Jay should start the latter half of the season. I think that our offense will be better under Jay. I think that Jay will scare more defensive coordinators than Jake does, and I think Cutler will be amazing.
Finally an honest poster...
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:14 AM   #8
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Sorry guilty as charged. I liken this situation to a how many would like to see Elway fill-in for a couple of games to see if he still has it.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:15 AM   #9
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Absolutely not. This is Plummer's team. I just feel BETTER about the situation with Cutler coming in if Plummer wasn't able to play a game or two.
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I just want to get to the big game and win it all, thats the only way we are going to get some respect, we will have plenty of time for jay.
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Sorry guilty as charged. I liken this situation to a how many would like to see Elway fill-in for a couple of games to see if he still has it.
That's just silly. Elway is a proven HOF quarterback. Cutler is nowhere NEAR that caliber at this stage of his young career...
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:20 AM   #12
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I hope that if Cutler plays this year that Jake getting hurt is the reason and not poor play and over dramatic media and fans.
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Taco wants to know if he can vote twice?
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I just want to get to the big game and win it all, thats the only way we are going to get some respect, we will have plenty of time for jay.
Here's more honesty. We aren't going to the super bowl with Plummer. We lack two things to make it to the big game: A pass rush and a franchise offensive player.

I firmly believe that you need either a top five QB or a top five running back to get to the Super Bowl (sometimes both) and right now none of our starters are at that level. Mike Bell would have to become TD and Tatum would have to become Tiki Barber and I don't see that happening.

Even if it did, we don't have enough preasure from the front four to get us there.

Jake has a lot of weapons and great protection this year. He's going to make a lot of plays for us, but after four years of learning and watching him in the preseason I'm convinced we've seen the summit and he's not going to get any better. I still think he's a very good QB for us and will get us at least ten games this season and keep the others close, and I also think that we'll get into the playoffs and win a few games, but we're not going over the top until Cutler steps in and comes into his own and our front four can manufacture some kind of consistant pass rush on its own.
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I firmly believe that you need either a top five QB or a top five running back to get to the Super Bowl (sometimes both) and right now none of our starters are at that level.
The Steelers had neither last year.
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Here's more honesty. We aren't going to the super bowl with Plummer. We lack two things to make it to the big game: A pass rush and a franchise offensive player.

I firmly believe that you need either a top five QB or a top five running back to get to the Super Bowl (sometimes both) and right now none of our starters are at that level. Mike Bell would have to become TD and Tatum would have to become Tiki Barber and I don't see that happening.

Even if it did, we don't have enough preasure from the front four to get us there.

Jake has a lot of weapons and great protection this year. He's going to make a lot of plays for us, but after four years of learning and watching him in the preseason I'm convinced we've seen the summit and he's not going to get any better. I still think he's a very good QB for us and will get us at least ten games this season and keep the others close, and I also think that we'll get into the playoffs and win a few games, but we're not going over the top until Cutler steps in and comes into his own and our front four can manufacture some kind of consistant pass rush on its own.
Now that is spoken for truth...
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The Steelers had neither last year.
They had the refs that negates Kaylore's formula
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They had the refs that negates Kaylore's formula
No, he said that you need a top 5 QB or RB or both to get to the Super Bowl. The Steelers didn't get a handjob from the zebras until they were already there.
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Finally an honest poster...
So, what, you asked a question, and then say that everyone who answered one way is being dishonest?
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Plummer gets a little owie and misses a couple of games this season so you can see what Jay can do?
I cannot tell a lie. I voted yes. Jake can handle a "little owie" for "a couple of games."

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I voted yes. Jake can handle a "little owie" for "a couple of games."
I tell you what. If we lose our first game, then win 14 in a row, yes, I'd like to see Cutler get a start.

If not, I believe this season is our last shot at the Super bowl for another 5 years at least. As such, I do not hope for our starting QB to get injured, even in the slightest.
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Screw injury. I want Jay to start over Plummer simply for the fact that I can't suffer another Jake Plummer playoff choke. I've seen enough of Jay to know he's got all the tools, and just needs the experience. Experience and knowledge of our system is the only thing Plummer has on Jay right now, and there's only one way to fix that.

I think Plummer is an excellent care-taker, but I think he's a road block at this point. He's a great week to week quarterback, but in the big games, he's his own worst enemy.

I hope Jay is starting by the end of the season just for the fact that he's the best arm this team has, and if Shanahan can manage an arm like Plummer's to a 13 win season, imagine what he can do with someone more talented.

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That's just silly. Elway is a proven HOF quarterback. Cutler is nowhere NEAR that caliber at this stage of his young career...
I know it is silly and hope Jake remains healthy. There are just some guys that are so good you feel guilty watching them and I haven't felt that way as a Bronco fan about a QB since Elway was introduced prior to each home game here, I'd get goose bumps as they anoounced Elways name each week knowing I was watching something special. I'm not saying Cutler is there now but I found myself going to each preseason game and tuning in just to watch Jay's performance these last few weeks. He has an inner strength and confidence of a guy that will be a difference maker and I can't lie I want to cheer for him sooner rather than later.
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The Steelers had neither last year.
They had a killer defense, and as Baja pointed out, some Zeebra help. They destroyed our offensive line without blitzing. The steelers offense was excellent and Rothlisberger played fine until he got to the SB.

Our defensive front can't get sufficient preassure without blitzing. If we could do that as good as the Steelers did last year, then I could see us making a run.
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I know it is silly and hope Jake remains healthy. There are just some guys that are so good you feel guilty watching them and I haven't felt that way as a Bronco fan about a QB since Elway was introduced prior to each home game here, I'd get goose bumps as they anoounced Elways name each week knowing I was watching something special. I'm not saying Cutler is there now but I found myself going to each preseason game and tuning in just to watch Jay's performance these last few weeks. He has an inner strength and confidence of a guy that will be a difference maker and I can't lie I want to cheer for him sooner rather than later.
I've watched his 84 yard TD bomb throw eleventy billion times. It's the last thing I watch before I go to bed.

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