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Old 08-01-2006, 12:55 PM   #151
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I just noticed; There's been a grand total of one left winger taken so far.
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Old 08-01-2006, 03:10 PM   #152
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Damn, CO. I was hoping Foppa would fall to my next pick so I could reunite he and Sakic.

Icon, left wing is just not a strong position historically after Bobby Hull. Luc Robitaille was a great scorer, though he never really scared you as an opposing fan. I'd rather just move over some right handed centers to left wing.
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Damn, CO. I was hoping Foppa would fall to my next pick so I could reunite he and Sakic.

Icon, left wing is just not a strong position historically after Bobby Hull. Luc Robitaille was a great scorer, though he never really scared you as an opposing fan. I'd rather just move over some right handed centers to left wing.
*Cough* Brett Hull *Cough*
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Old 08-01-2006, 07:43 PM   #154
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*Cough* Brett Hull *Cough*
Brett Hull is a right winger.
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Old 08-02-2006, 08:26 AM   #156
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Sorry I was slow getting to my pick. With my next pick, I select Ronnie Francis, C. He's not real flashy, but he quietly got the job done and racked up 4th most points all time.

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Kings with the 36th overall pick select Jean Beliveau-




Jean Arthur Béliveau, CC , CQ , D.h.c. (b. August 31, 1931 in Trois-Rivières, Quebec, Canada) was a professional ice hockey player. He is a Canadian icon, and one of the most respected figures to have ever played the game.

A star at an early age, he won the Quebec Senior Hockey League scoring championship with the Quebec Aces in 1953 then joined the Montreal Canadiens of the National Hockey League (NHL). Three years later, in 1956, Béliveau won both the Art Ross Memorial Trophy as the league's scoring champion and the Hart Memorial Trophy as its most valuable player. During his 18 year career in Montreal, he played on 10 Stanley Cup winning teams and was team captain for five of them. A powerful skater, he had a polished air of composed confidence that made him a natural leader both on and off the ice. Admired and respected by fans, teammates and his opponents, he was the first player to win the Conn Smythe Trophy for his performance in the 1965 Stanley Cup playoffs.

Jean Béliveau retired at the end of the 1970-71 NHL season as his team's all-time leading scorer and the NHL's all-time leading playoff scorer. He scored 507 goals and had 712 assists for 1,219 points in 1,125 NHL regular-season games plus 70 goals and 97 assists for 176 points in 162 playoff games. His jersey number (#4) was retired on October 9, 1971. In 1972, he was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame.

# Played in 13 NHL All-Star Games
# NHL First All-Star Team (6)
# NHL Second All-Star Team (4)
# Art Ross Memorial Trophy (1956)
# Conn Smythe Trophy (1965)
# Hart Memorial Trophy (MVP) (1956, 1964)
#10 Stanley Cup rings

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The Kings with their 37th overall pick select...

Luuuuuuuuuuc Robitaille




"Lucky" Luc Robitaille (born February 17, 1966 in Montréal, Québec, Canada) is a retired professional ice hockey player. In a 20-year NHL career from 1986 to 2006, he played for the Los Angeles Kings, New York Rangers, Detroit Red Wings and Pittsburgh Penguins. Robitaille retired as the all-time highest-scoring left winger in National Hockey League history and the holder of the Kings franchise record for goals.

Robitaille starred in junior hockey for the Hull Olympiques of the QMJHL, scoring an amazing 191 points in 1985-86, and being named the CHL Player of the Year that season. However, due to perceived skating deficiencies, Luc was not drafted until the 9th round (171st overall) by the Los Angeles Kings in the 1984 NHL Entry Draft; five rounds earlier, the Kings had drafted Tom Glavine, who would become a star pitcher in Major League Baseball. Somewhat ironically, only Robitaille's former teammate Dave Taylor has ever had as many as one thousand career points after being drafted so low.

Despite such an inauspicious start, Robitaille burst onto the NHL scene in 1986, garnering the Calder Memorial Trophy for rookie of the year honors after scoring 45 goals and 39 assists in his first year. He would never look back, scoring more than forty goals in each of his first eight seasons for Los Angeles (a string broken only by the shortened strike year of 1994-95), registering three seasons exceeding fifty goals in that time. In the 1992-93 season, holding the team's captaincy in place of injured captain Wayne Gretzky, he broke Steve Shutt's record for goals by a left winger with a team leading 63 and John Bucyk's mark for points by a left winger with a team leading 125, marks which both still stand. He followed that up with being the third leading scorer (behind Gretzky and Tomas Sandstrom) for the Kings in their run to the Stanley Cup finals that season, making him the only person to ever dethrone Wayne Gretzky as his team's leading scorer during a season.

Somewhat astonishingly, Robitaille was traded to the Pittsburgh Penguins after the 1993-94 NHL season for Rick Tocchet and a draft choice. After a single season in Pittsburgh, he was traded to the New York Rangers, where he spent two seasons before being traded back to Los Angeles for winger Kevin Stevens.

His return to Los Angeles was not immediately triumphant. In an injury plagued 1997-98 season he had the lowest point total of his career to that time, but the next three years proved otherwise, as Robitaille returned to form as one of the great left wingers of hockey. However, wishing for a shot at the Stanley Cup, which playing for Los Angeles was unlikely to grant, he signed as a free agent in 2001 with the star-studded, veteran Detroit Red Wings. Robitaille scored thirty goals that year and was a key component to the Red Wings Cup win.

After a mediocre following season, the worst of his career, Robitaille, hoping to finish his career back in Los Angeles, signed as a free agent in the fall of 2003 with the Kings. He led the team in scoring the next season at the age of 38.

On the night of Thursday, January 19, 2006 during a game against the Atlanta Thrashers, Robitaille broke the Kings' all time franchise scoring record with his second goal of the night, his five-hundred and fifty-first (551st) goal in total. He went on to score a hat-trick third goal on an empty net in the final seconds of the 3rd period, embossing the new record, at least temporarily, at five-hundred and fifty two (552) goals. His record breaking goal was met with several minutes of a stadium-wide standing ovation and a video-congratulation reel was run on the in-house monitors for fans to watch.


Robitaille finished his legendary career with 668 goals, and 726 assists for a total of 1,394 points in 1,431 games played over the course of 19 NHL seasons (1986-87 to 2005-06).


# Calder Memorial Trophy - 1987
# Named to the NHL All-Rookie Team - 1987
# Played in 8 NHL All-Star Games - 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 2001

Ranks 10th in all-time NHL goals and first amongst left wingers (653) Ranks

40th in all-time NHL assists and second amongst left wingers (717)

Ranks 19th in all-time NHL points and first amongst left wingers (1370)

Ranks 28th in all-time NHL games (1366)

Los Angeles Kings franchise record for career goals (552)
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1. 24champbailey C - Wayne Gretzky(Oilers, Blues, Kings, Rangers)
2. Mtbrncofn G - Patrick Roy(Canadiens, Avalanche)
3. Clockwork Orange D - Bobby Orr(Bruins, Blackhawks)
4. Breck Bronc C - Mario Lemieux(Penguins)
5. JCMElway RW - Gordie Howe(Red Wings, Whalers)
6. Jori G - Terry Sawchuck(Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Kings, Rangers)
7. -Slap- LW - Bobby Hull(Blackhawks, Jets, Whalers)
8. killericon D - Paul Coffey(Oilers, Penguins, Kings, Red Wings, Whalers, Flyers, Blackhawks, Hurricanes, Bruins)
9. dbroncos31 G- Dominik Hasek (Blackhawks, Sabres, Senators, Red Wings)

10. dbroncos31 C- Steve Yzerman (Red Wings)
11. killericon D - Raymond Bourque(Bruins, Avalanche)
12. -Slap- D - Doug Harvey(Canadiens, Rangers, Red Wings, Blues)
13. Jori RW - Maurice Richard(Canadiens)
14. JCMElway G - Martin Brodeur(Devils)
15. Breck Bronc C - Joe Sakic(Avalanche)
16. Clockwork Orange G - Vladislav Tretiak(CSKA Moscow, Red Army)
17. Mtbrncofn D - Al MacInnis(Flames, Blues)
18. 24champbailey D - Eddie Shore(Bruins, Americans)

19. 24champbailey G - Jacques Plante(Canadiens, Blues, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Oilers)
20. Mtbrncofn C - Mark Messier(Oilers, Rangers, Canucks)
21. Clockwork Orange RW - Mike Bossy(Islanders)
22. Breck Bronc D - Larry Robinson(Kings, Canadiens)
23. JCMElway C - Marcel Dionne(Red Wings, Kings, Rangers)
24. Jori D - Nicklas Lidstrom(Red Wings)
25. -Slap- G - Ken Dryden(Canadiens)
26. killericon G - Tony Esposito(Canadiens, Blackhawks)
27. dbroncos31

28. dbroncos31
29. killericon RW - Cam Neely(Canucks, Bruins)
30. -Slap- C - Phil Esposito(Blackhawks, Bruins, Rangers)
31. Jori C - Stan Mikita(Blackhawks)
32. JCMElway RW - Jaromir Jagr(Penguins, Rangers)
33. Breck Bronc C - Bryan Trottier(Islanders, PenguC ins)
34. Clockwork Orange C - Peter Forsberg(Avalanche, Flyers)
35. Mtbrncofn C - Ron Francis(Whalers, Oenguins, Hurricanes)
36. 24champbailey C - Jean Béliveau(Canadiens)

37. 24champbailey LW - Luc Robitaille(Kings, Rangers, Penguins, Red Wings)
38. Mtbrncofn
39. Clockwork Orange
40. Breck Bronc
41. JCMElway
42. Jori
43. -Slap-
44. killericon
45. dbroncos31

46. dbroncos31
47. killericon
48. -Slap-
49. Jori
50. JCMElway
51. Breck Bronc
52. Clockwork Orange
53. Mtbrncofn
54. 24champbailey

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Old 08-02-2006, 04:41 PM   #160
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I guess I'll go ahead and take that turd, Brett Hull, RW with my next pick. I really hate to take him because he's a prick, but he's also 3rd on the goals list all time. He'll live forever in infamy in my mind anyway, but after 2004's "**** the fans", he's at the bottom of the infamy list for me.





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1. 24champbailey C - Wayne Gretzky(Oilers, Blues, Kings, Rangers)
2. Mtbrncofn G - Patrick Roy(Canadiens, Avalanche)
3. Clockwork Orange D - Bobby Orr(Bruins, Blackhawks)
4. Breck Bronc C - Mario Lemieux(Penguins)
5. JCMElway RW - Gordie Howe(Red Wings, Whalers)
6. Jori G - Terry Sawchuck(Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Kings, Rangers)
7. -Slap- LW - Bobby Hull(Blackhawks, Jets, Whalers)
8. killericon D - Paul Coffey(Oilers, Penguins, Kings, Red Wings, Whalers, Flyers, Blackhawks, Hurricanes, Bruins)
9. dbroncos31 G- Dominik Hasek (Blackhawks, Sabres, Senators, Red Wings)

10. dbroncos31 C- Steve Yzerman (Red Wings)
11. killericon D - Raymond Bourque(Bruins, Avalanche)
12. -Slap- D - Doug Harvey(Canadiens, Rangers, Red Wings, Blues)
13. Jori RW - Maurice Richard(Canadiens)
14. JCMElway G - Martin Brodeur(Devils)
15. Breck Bronc C - Joe Sakic(Avalanche)
16. Clockwork Orange G - Vladislav Tretiak(CSKA Moscow, Red Army)
17. Mtbrncofn D - Al MacInnis(Flames, Blues)
18. 24champbailey D - Eddie Shore(Bruins, Americans)

19. 24champbailey G - Jacques Plante(Canadiens, Blues, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Oilers)
20. Mtbrncofn C - Mark Messier(Oilers, Rangers, Canucks)
21. Clockwork Orange RW - Mike Bossy(Islanders)
22. Breck Bronc D - Larry Robinson(Kings, Canadiens)
23. JCMElway C - Marcel Dionne(Red Wings, Kings, Rangers)
24. Jori D - Nicklas Lidstrom(Red Wings)
25. -Slap- G - Ken Dryden(Canadiens)
26. killericon G - Tony Esposito(Canadiens, Blackhawks)
27. dbroncos31

28. dbroncos31
29. killericon RW - Cam Neely(Canucks, Bruins)
30. -Slap- C - Phil Esposito(Blackhawks, Bruins, Rangers)
31. Jori C - Stan Mikita(Blackhawks)
32. JCMElway RW - Jaromir Jagr(Penguins, Rangers)
33. Breck Bronc C - Bryan Trottier(Islanders, PenguC ins)
34. Clockwork Orange C - Peter Forsberg(Avalanche, Flyers)
35. Mtbrncofn C - Ron Francis(Whalers, Oenguins, Hurricanes)
36. 24champbailey C - Jean Béliveau(Canadiens)

37. 24champbailey LW - Luc Robitaille(Kings, Rangers, Penguins, Red Wings)
38. Mtbrncofn RW - Brett Hull(Flames, Blues, Stars, Red Wings, Coyotes)
39. Clockwork Orange
40. Breck Bronc
41. JCMElway
42. Jori
43. -Slap-
44. killericon
45. dbroncos31

46. dbroncos31
47. killericon
48. -Slap-
49. Jori
50. JCMElway
51. Breck Bronc
52. Clockwork Orange
53. Mtbrncofn
54. 24champbailey

Clockwork Orange is on the clock.

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I'll select Scott Stevens, D Capitals/Blues/Devils

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Ohhhh You bastard.
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1. 24champbailey C - Wayne Gretzky(Oilers, Blues, Kings, Rangers)
2. Mtbrncofn G - Patrick Roy(Canadiens, Avalanche)
3. Clockwork Orange D - Bobby Orr(Bruins, Blackhawks)
4. Breck Bronc C - Mario Lemieux(Penguins)
5. JCMElway RW - Gordie Howe(Red Wings, Whalers)
6. Jori G - Terry Sawchuck(Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Kings, Rangers)
7. -Slap- LW - Bobby Hull(Blackhawks, Jets, Whalers)
8. killericon D - Paul Coffey(Oilers, Penguins, Kings, Red Wings, Whalers, Flyers, Blackhawks, Hurricanes, Bruins)
9. dbroncos31 G- Dominik Hasek (Blackhawks, Sabres, Senators, Red Wings)

10. dbroncos31 C- Steve Yzerman (Red Wings)
11. killericon D - Raymond Bourque(Bruins, Avalanche)
12. -Slap- D - Doug Harvey(Canadiens, Rangers, Red Wings, Blues)
13. Jori RW - Maurice Richard(Canadiens)
14. JCMElway G - Martin Brodeur(Devils)
15. Breck Bronc C - Joe Sakic(Avalanche)
16. Clockwork Orange G - Vladislav Tretiak(CSKA Moscow, Red Army)
17. Mtbrncofn D - Al MacInnis(Flames, Blues)
18. 24champbailey D - Eddie Shore(Bruins, Americans)

19. 24champbailey G - Jacques Plante(Canadiens, Blues, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Oilers)
20. Mtbrncofn C - Mark Messier(Oilers, Rangers, Canucks)
21. Clockwork Orange RW - Mike Bossy(Islanders)
22. Breck Bronc D - Larry Robinson(Kings, Canadiens)
23. JCMElway C - Marcel Dionne(Red Wings, Kings, Rangers)
24. Jori D - Nicklas Lidstrom(Red Wings)
25. -Slap- G - Ken Dryden(Canadiens)
26. killericon G - Tony Esposito(Canadiens, Blackhawks)
27. dbroncos31

28. dbroncos31
29. killericon RW - Cam Neely(Canucks, Bruins)
30. -Slap- C - Phil Esposito(Blackhawks, Bruins, Rangers)
31. Jori C - Stan Mikita(Blackhawks)
32. JCMElway RW - Jaromir Jagr(Penguins, Rangers)
33. Breck Bronc C - Bryan Trottier(Islanders, PenguC ins)
34. Clockwork Orange C - Peter Forsberg(Avalanche, Flyers)
35. Mtbrncofn C - Ron Francis(Whalers, Oenguins, Hurricanes)
36. 24champbailey C - Jean Béliveau(Canadiens)

37. 24champbailey LW - Luc Robitaille(Kings, Rangers, Penguins, Red Wings)
38. Mtbrncofn RW - Brett Hull(Flames, Blues, Stars, Red Wings, Coyotes)
39. Clockwork Orange D - Scott Stevens(Capitals, Blues, Devils)
40. Breck Bronc
41. JCMElway
42. Jori
43. -Slap-
44. killericon
45. dbroncos31

46. dbroncos31
47. killericon
48. -Slap-
49. Jori
50. JCMElway
51. Breck Bronc
52. Clockwork Orange
53. Mtbrncofn
54. 24champbailey

Breck Bronc is on the clock.

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With the 40th pick I select Guy Lafleur, RW, Montreal Canadiens/New York Rangers/Quebec Nordiques.



The Flower was the first player in NHL history to score 50 goals and 100 points in six consecutive seasons. Guy was "the man" in the '70's before Gretzky and Lemieux came along.

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1. 24champbailey C - Wayne Gretzky(Oilers, Blues, Kings, Rangers)
2. Mtbrncofn G - Patrick Roy(Canadiens, Avalanche)
3. Clockwork Orange D - Bobby Orr(Bruins, Blackhawks)
4. Breck Bronc C - Mario Lemieux(Penguins)
5. JCMElway RW - Gordie Howe(Red Wings, Whalers)
6. Jori G - Terry Sawchuck(Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Kings, Rangers)
7. -Slap- LW - Bobby Hull(Blackhawks, Jets, Whalers)
8. killericon D - Paul Coffey(Oilers, Penguins, Kings, Red Wings, Whalers, Flyers, Blackhawks, Hurricanes, Bruins)
9. dbroncos31 G- Dominik Hasek (Blackhawks, Sabres, Senators, Red Wings)

10. dbroncos31 C- Steve Yzerman (Red Wings)
11. killericon D - Raymond Bourque(Bruins, Avalanche)
12. -Slap- D - Doug Harvey(Canadiens, Rangers, Red Wings, Blues)
13. Jori RW - Maurice Richard(Canadiens)
14. JCMElway G - Martin Brodeur(Devils)
15. Breck Bronc C - Joe Sakic(Avalanche)
16. Clockwork Orange G - Vladislav Tretiak(CSKA Moscow, Red Army)
17. Mtbrncofn D - Al MacInnis(Flames, Blues)
18. 24champbailey D - Eddie Shore(Bruins, Americans)

19. 24champbailey G - Jacques Plante(Canadiens, Blues, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Oilers)
20. Mtbrncofn C - Mark Messier(Oilers, Rangers, Canucks)
21. Clockwork Orange RW - Mike Bossy(Islanders)
22. Breck Bronc D - Larry Robinson(Kings, Canadiens)
23. JCMElway C - Marcel Dionne(Red Wings, Kings, Rangers)
24. Jori D - Nicklas Lidstrom(Red Wings)
25. -Slap- G - Ken Dryden(Canadiens)
26. killericon G - Tony Esposito(Canadiens, Blackhawks)
27. dbroncos31

28. dbroncos31
29. killericon RW - Cam Neely(Canucks, Bruins)
30. -Slap- C - Phil Esposito(Blackhawks, Bruins, Rangers)
31. Jori C - Stan Mikita(Blackhawks)
32. JCMElway RW - Jaromir Jagr(Penguins, Rangers)
33. Breck Bronc C - Bryan Trottier(Islanders, PenguC ins)
34. Clockwork Orange C - Peter Forsberg(Avalanche, Flyers)
35. Mtbrncofn C - Ron Francis(Whalers, Oenguins, Hurricanes)
36. 24champbailey C - Jean Béliveau(Canadiens)

37. 24champbailey LW - Luc Robitaille(Kings, Rangers, Penguins, Red Wings)
38. Mtbrncofn RW - Brett Hull(Flames, Blues, Stars, Red Wings, Coyotes)
39. Clockwork Orange D - Scott Stevens(Capitals, Blues, Devils)
40. Breck Bronc RW - Guy Lafleur(Montreal Canadiens, New York Rangers, Quebec Nordiques)
41. JCMElway
42. Jori
43. -Slap-
44. killericon
45. dbroncos31

46. dbroncos31
47. killericon
48. -Slap-
49. Jori
50. JCMElway
51. Breck Bronc
52. Clockwork Orange
53. Mtbrncofn
54. 24champbailey

JCMElway is on the clock.

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With the 41st selection Those Cheap Bastards select:

Adam Oates, C, Red Wings/Bruins/Capitals.

I may move him over to RW, I'm not sure yet. He's a rightie, so the transition whouldn't be out of the question. Not every guy can be an all-out scorer. Oates was great a giving it up so others could "put the biscuit in the basket."

--13th on the all time points list
--6th on the all time assists list

Oates initially did not have much hope of an NHL career, until Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute offerred him a scholarship. He played for the college from 1982 to 1985, where he was a major contributor to RPI's 1985 NCAA Division I championship. After that season, Oates signed as an undrafted free agent with the Detroit Red Wings, with the richest rookie contract up to this time at $1 million over four years. Oates eventually graduated with a Management degree from RPI in 1991.

Although the team's second centreman behind Steve Yzerman, Oates solidified his reputation as an elite NHL playmaker with the Red Wings, and by his last season with the club 1988-89 he was scoring at an almost assist-per-game pace. However, he was traded to the St. Louis Blues after the season along with Paul MacLean for Bernie Federko and Tony McKegney.

Oates prospered in St. Louis, where he teamed up with Brett Hull and became part of the "Hull n Oates" tandem, a reference to the musical duo of Hall & Oates. Mostly thanks to Oates, Hull had three consecutive seasons with at least 70 goals, including the 1990-91 season when Hull scored 86 (a record for right wingers) and won the Hart Trophy. Oates also had a spectacular season, as he had 90 assists and 115 points in only 61 games, earning him a NHL Second Team All-Star. However, as Oates was paid far lower than his market worth, he held out for much of the next season until he was traded to the Boston Bruins in return for Craig Janney and Stephane Quintal.

Oates had perhaps his best seasons yet in 1992-93, as he scored a career-high 45 goals, 97 assists and 142 points to finish third overall in regular season scoring behind Mario Lemieux and Pat LaFontaine. Ironically, the only other player to score 100 points for the Bruins that season was fellow RPI alumnus, Joe Juneau. As well, Oates' 97 assists were more formidable than his totals in his St. Louis years, considering that he did not have a bona-fide sniper playing alongside him the whole season, as Bruins sniper Cam Neely was injured for all but 13 games during the season. The next season, Oates again finished third with 32 goals, 80 assists, and 112 points, behind Wayne Gretzky and Sergei Federov.

Oates played with Boston until the 1996-97 NHL season, when he was traded to the Washington Capitals with Bill Ranford and Rick Tocchet for Jim Carey, Anson Carter, Jason Allison and Washington's 3rd round choice (Lee Goren) in 1997 Entry Draft, March 1, 1997 in a blockbuster move near the trading deadline. Oates helped lead the Capitals to the Stanley Cup Finals the next season, but failed to win as the Capitals lost to the Red Wings, Oates' first NHL team. Oates had a few more productive seasons with the Caps, leading the league in assists in 2000-01 and 2001-02, both feats were done in the two seasons leading up to his fortieth birthday which also made him the oldest player to do so. On January 14, 2002, Oates became only the eighth player in NHL history to earn at least 1,000 career assists, a tribute to his playmaking skills.

In 2002-03, Oates made his second trip to the Stanley Cup Finals, this time with the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, but again his team was beat out, this time in seven games by the New Jersey Devils. His career looked to be over after the season, but on November 17, 2003, the Edmonton Oilers desperately needed a center, and signed Oates to a contract. However, the season was a disappointment as he scored only two goals and 18 points, although the Oilers stayed in the playoff hunt until the end of the season. Oates announced his retirement on April 3, 2004 after his team was narrowly eliminated from the postseason

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Next to Gretzky, Oates is considered one of the most creative and effective playmakers in the modern NHL era, as Oates had more assists than any other player during the 1990s except for Gretzky. Brett Hull and Oates united to form a high-scoring tandem for three years, with Oates supplying the playmaking for Hull, who was a natural sniper. During those three years, Hull's goal totals were 72-86-70. Outside of the three season, when Hull was not centered by Oates, he never surmounted the 60 goal mark.

Despite his skillful playmaking, strong face-off win percentage, and impressive scoring statistics, Oates never won the Stanley Cup in his career. He was also well known as a clean player, being a six time finalist for the Lady Byng Trophy but losing to Wayne Gretzky, Pierre Turgeon, Ron Francis, and Joe Sakic. He finished third in regular season scoring three times (1990-1991, 1992-1993, and 1993-1994), but only made the postseason All-Star Second Team in 1991. The other two seasons near the top, Oates narrowed missed out because players that finished ahead of him in the scoring place also played centre. Oates's lack of honours meant that he was often underrated compared to his peers.

Oates is considered by most hockey experts to be a favourite for the Hockey Hall of Fame when he is eligible in 2007 but has a lot of competition (Mark Messier, Scott Stevens, Al MacInnis and Ron Francis all become eligible the same year) so it may take a few tries before he gets inducted.
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Just to be clear are we moving players to positions they dont play? Are we moving Centers to play wing?
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Just to be clear are we moving players to positions they dont play? Are we moving Centers to play wing?
I think that's a question for our intrepid leader, Killericon. I would think it would be a fair thing to do. Moving from C to either Winger spot is not a huge jump. I wouldn't however, think that it's fair to move a winger to D, or something like that.

But, if KI wants to keep all of the positions pure I'd be down with that. Whatever he decides.
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Just to be clear are we moving players to positions they dont play? Are we moving Centers to play wing?
Yes, we can do that. Heck, if you wind up with Yzerman(See below) you could get him to play Goalie.

Looks like dbroncos31 is not coming back. JCMElway had a nice idea about what to do to correct the situation.

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It looks like DB31 isn't coming back. If we can't find someone to take over his team, than I think we need to find a fair way of releasing Hasek and Yzerman for people to pick up.

Perhaps a lottery. You draw names out of a hat. Say for instance the order was Jori, CB24, and Killericon..... If he was first, Jori would have the option of taking Yzerman or Hasek. He would then have to release one of his already selected players. If he was not interested he could pass. CB24 would then have that option. I think that's a fair way to get them on a team.

Another way to run this would be to do it in reverse draft order. So the people with the option to pick up those players up first would be, in order: KI, Slap, Jori JCM......

Actually, I think the reverse draft thing is the most fair. The person to pick up that player would still have to drop a person from their roster, tho'. That makes the decision a bit tougher.
Any objections?

Of course, just to be Fair, since I'm the moderator, I'll decline any option at either one.

Also, you may only take one of them, unless noone else takes them until you would be back on the clock.

We won't find a replacement for him, since he only did one round.
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1. 24champbailey C - Wayne Gretzky(Oilers, Blues, Kings, Rangers)
2. Mtbrncofn G - Patrick Roy(Canadiens, Avalanche)
3. Clockwork Orange D - Bobby Orr(Bruins, Blackhawks)
4. Breck Bronc C - Mario Lemieux(Penguins)
5. JCMElway RW - Gordie Howe(Red Wings, Whalers)
6. Jori G - Terry Sawchuck(Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Kings, Rangers)
7. -Slap- LW - Bobby Hull(Blackhawks, Jets, Whalers)
8. killericon D - Paul Coffey(Oilers, Penguins, Kings, Red Wings, Whalers, Flyers, Blackhawks, Hurricanes, Bruins)
9. dbroncos31 G- Dominik Hasek (Blackhawks, Sabres, Senators, Red Wings)

10. dbroncos31 C- Steve Yzerman (Red Wings)
11. killericon D - Raymond Bourque(Bruins, Avalanche)
12. -Slap- D - Doug Harvey(Canadiens, Rangers, Red Wings, Blues)
13. Jori RW - Maurice Richard(Canadiens)
14. JCMElway G - Martin Brodeur(Devils)
15. Breck Bronc C - Joe Sakic(Avalanche)
16. Clockwork Orange G - Vladislav Tretiak(CSKA Moscow, Red Army)
17. Mtbrncofn D - Al MacInnis(Flames, Blues)
18. 24champbailey D - Eddie Shore(Bruins, Americans)

19. 24champbailey G - Jacques Plante(Canadiens, Blues, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Oilers)
20. Mtbrncofn C - Mark Messier(Oilers, Rangers, Canucks)
21. Clockwork Orange RW - Mike Bossy(Islanders)
22. Breck Bronc D - Larry Robinson(Kings, Canadiens)
23. JCMElway C - Marcel Dionne(Red Wings, Kings, Rangers)
24. Jori D - Nicklas Lidstrom(Red Wings)
25. -Slap- G - Ken Dryden(Canadiens)
26. killericon G - Tony Esposito(Canadiens, Blackhawks)
27. dbroncos31

28. dbroncos31
29. killericon RW - Cam Neely(Canucks, Bruins)
30. -Slap- C - Phil Esposito(Blackhawks, Bruins, Rangers)
31. Jori C - Stan Mikita(Blackhawks)
32. JCMElway RW - Jaromir Jagr(Penguins, Rangers)
33. Breck Bronc C - Bryan Trottier(Islanders, PenguC ins)
34. Clockwork Orange C - Peter Forsberg(Avalanche, Flyers)
35. Mtbrncofn C - Ron Francis(Whalers, Oenguins, Hurricanes)
36. 24champbailey C - Jean Béliveau(Canadiens)

37. 24champbailey LW - Luc Robitaille(Kings, Rangers, Penguins, Red Wings)
38. Mtbrncofn RW - Brett Hull(Flames, Blues, Stars, Red Wings, Coyotes)
39. Clockwork Orange D - Scott Stevens(Capitals, Blues, Devils)
40. Breck Bronc RW - Guy Lafleur(Montreal Canadiens, New York Rangers, Quebec Nordiques)
41. JCMElway C - Adam Oates(Red Wings, Bruins, Capitals)
42. Jori
43. -Slap-
44. killericon
45. dbroncos31

46. dbroncos31
47. killericon
48. -Slap-
49. Jori
50. JCMElway
51. Breck Bronc
52. Clockwork Orange
53. Mtbrncofn
54. 24champbailey

Jori is on the clock.

dbroncos31 can make 2 selections at any time.

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I do think that reverse draft order is the fairest way to go. Very nice move to take yourself out of the running, KI.

So, that means that Slap has the first option whether or not to pick up Hasek or Yzerman. And if he picks one of them up he has to release one player. Jori and myself are next in line.

So Slap, are you interested in picking one of these two up?
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1. 24champbailey C - Wayne Gretzky(Oilers, Blues, Kings, Rangers)
2. Mtbrncofn G - Patrick Roy(Canadiens, Avalanche)
3. Clockwork Orange D - Bobby Orr(Bruins, Blackhawks)
4. Breck Bronc C - Mario Lemieux(Penguins)
5. JCMElway RW - Gordie Howe(Red Wings, Whalers)
6. Jori G - Terry Sawchuck(Red Wings, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Kings, Rangers)
7. -Slap- LW - Bobby Hull(Blackhawks, Jets, Whalers)
8. killericon D - Paul Coffey(Oilers, Penguins, Kings, Red Wings, Whalers, Flyers, Blackhawks, Hurricanes, Bruins)

9. killericon D - Raymond Bourque(Bruins, Avalanche)
10. -Slap- D - Doug Harvey(Canadiens, Rangers, Red Wings, Blues)
11. Jori RW - Maurice Richard(Canadiens)
12. JCMElway G - Martin Brodeur(Devils)
13. Breck Bronc C - Joe Sakic(Avalanche)
14. Clockwork Orange G - Vladislav Tretiak(CSKA Moscow, Red Army)
15. Mtbrncofn D - Al MacInnis(Flames, Blues)
16. 24champbailey D - Eddie Shore(Bruins, Americans)

17. 24champbailey G - Jacques Plante(Canadiens, Blues, Maple Leafs, Bruins, Oilers)
18. Mtbrncofn C - Mark Messier(Oilers, Rangers, Canucks)
19. Clockwork Orange RW - Mike Bossy(Islanders)
20. Breck Bronc D - Larry Robinson(Kings, Canadiens)
21. JCMElway C - Marcel Dionne(Red Wings, Kings, Rangers)
22. Jori D - Nicklas Lidstrom(Red Wings)
23. -Slap- G - Ken Dryden(Canadiens)
24. killericon G - Tony Esposito(Canadiens, Blackhawks)

25. killericon RW - Cam Neely(Canucks, Bruins)
26. -Slap- C - Phil Esposito(Blackhawks, Bruins, Rangers)
27. Jori C - Stan Mikita(Blackhawks)
28. JCMElway RW - Jaromir Jagr(Penguins, Rangers)
29. Breck Bronc C - Bryan Trottier(Islanders, PenguC ins)
30. Clockwork Orange C - Peter Forsberg(Avalanche, Flyers)
31. Mtbrncofn C - Ron Francis(Whalers, Oenguins, Hurricanes)
32. 24champbailey C - Jean Béliveau(Canadiens)

33. 24champbailey LW - Luc Robitaille(Kings, Rangers, Penguins, Red Wings)
34. Mtbrncofn RW - Brett Hull(Flames, Blues, Stars, Red Wings, Coyotes)
35. Clockwork Orange D - Scott Stevens(Capitals, Blues, Devils)
36. Breck Bronc RW - Guy Lafleur(Montreal Canadiens, New York Rangers, Quebec Nordiques)
37. JCMElway C - Adam Oates(Red Wings, Bruins, Capitals)
38. Jori
39. -Slap-
40. killericon

41. killericon
42. -Slap-
43. Jori
44. JCMElway
45. Breck Bronc
46. Clockwork Orange
47. Mtbrncofn
48. 24champbailey

Jori is on the clock.

-Slap- has the option of selecting G- Dominik Hasek (Blackhawks, Sabres, Senators, Red Wings) or C- Steve Yzerman (Red Wings) at the cost of a player on his roster.

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Yes, we can do that. Heck, if you wind up with Yzerman(See below) you could get him to play Goalie.

Looks like dbroncos31 is not coming back. JCMElway had a nice idea about what to do to correct the situation.


Any objections?

Of course, just to be Fair, since I'm the moderator, I'll decline any option at either one.

Also, you may only take one of them, unless noone else takes them until you would be back on the clock.

We won't find a replacement for him, since he only did one round.
hold the phones, i will find his replacement. Shoot a PM to LB52 he knows a little about hockey, im sure he would join.
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Oh, and since we're getting pretty far into it, could you guys try to post up a player's info in the format I've been displaying on the draft history? You know...

{Posistion} - {First Name and Last Name} ({Teams played for, seperated by a comma})

Ex.

C - Wayne Gretzky(Oilers, Blues, Kings, Rangers)

It'd just help me out a little.

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