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Old 07-31-2006, 07:04 AM   #126
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LHP Steve "Lefty" Carlton

Steven Norman Carlton (Lefty)



Born December 22, 1944 in Miami, FL

Bats Left, Throws Left
Height 6' 4", Weight 210 lb.

Debut April 12, 1965
Final Game April 23, 1988

Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1994.
  • The first man to win four Cy Young Awards (1972, 1977, 1980, 1982).

  • Won the Triple Crown in 1972 (27-10, 1.97 ERA, 310 SO)

  • His 27 wins in 1972 came for the last place Phillies, who would win only 59 games all year. Carlton's wins represented 45.8 of the Phillies victories that year, a major league record.

  • Top five in MVP voting three times.

  • Ten time All-Star.

  • The first man to surpass 4,000 strikeouts. Fourth all time with 4136. The next closest active pitcher (Greg Maddux) is almost 1000 strikeouts behind him.

  • The second winningest lefthander in MLB history. His 329 wins are 10th all time.

  • Tied for 14th all time with 55 shutouts.

  • Led the NL in strikeouts five times.

  • Led the NL in IP five times.

  • 3-0 with a 2.31 ERA in the 1980 post season, the Phillies' only championship year.

"It (not talking to the media from 1974 through the end of his career)
was perfect for me at the time. It took me two years to make up my mind.
I was tired of getting slammed. To me it was a slap in the face. But it [his silence]
made me concentrate better. And the irony is that they wrote better without
access to my quotes. It's all quotes, anyway, and it all sounds the same to me.
After that they wrote better and more interesting stuff. I took it personal.
I got slammed quite a bit. To pick up the paper and read about yourself
getting slammed, that doesn't start your day off right."


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Year Ag Tm  Lg  W   L   G   GS  CG SHO  GF SV   IP     H    R   ER   HR  BB   SO  HBP  WP  BFP  IBB  BK  ERA *lgERA *ERA+ WHIP
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
 1965 20 STL NL   0   0  15   2   0   0   5  0   25.0   27    7    7   3    8   21   1   5   104   1   0  2.52  3.86  153 1.400
 1966 21 STL NL   3   3   9   9   2   1   0  0   52.0   56   22   18   2   18   25   0   2   223   1   1  3.12  3.61  116 1.423
 1967 22 STL NL  14   9  30  28  11   2   1  1  193.0  173   71   64  10   62  168   2   6   802   1   0  2.98  3.27  110 1.218
 1968 23 STL NL  13  11  34  33  10   5   1  0  231.7  214   87   77  11   61  162   3   6   954   4   0  2.99  2.90   97 1.187
 1969 24 STL NL  17  11  31  31  12   2   0  0  236.3  185   66   57  15   93  210   4   7   968   6   0  2.17  3.56  164 1.176
 1970 25 STL NL  10  19  34  33  13   2   0  0  253.7  239  123  105  25  109  193   2  14  1086  16   1  3.73  4.14  111 1.372
 1971 26 STL NL  20   9  37  36  18   4   0  0  273.3  275  120  108  23   98  172   5  12  1171  11   0  3.56  3.61  101 1.365
 1972 27 PHI NL  27  10  41  41  30   8   0  0  346.3  257   84   76  17   87  310   1   8  1351   8   2  1.97  3.59  182 0.993
 1973 28 PHI NL  13  20  40  40  18   3   0  0  293.3  293  146  127  29  113  223   3   7  1262  12   0  3.90  3.82   98 1.384
 1974 29 PHI NL  16  13  39  39  17   1   0  0  291.0  249  118  104  21  136  240   5  11  1227   8   4  3.22  3.77  117 1.323
 1975 30 PHI NL  15  14  37  37  14   3   0  0  255.3  217  116  101  24  104  192   2   5  1063   5   7  3.56  3.74  105 1.257
 1976 31 PHI NL  20   7  35  35  13   2   0  0  252.7  224   94   88  19   72  195   1   8  1031   4   3  3.13  3.54  113 1.172
 1977 32 PHI NL  23  10  36  36  17   2   0  0  283.0  229   99   83  25   89  198   4   3  1135   5   7  2.64  3.99  151 1.124
 1978 33 PHI NL  16  13  34  34  12   3   0  0  247.3  228   91   78  30   63  161   3   3  1006   7   7  2.84  3.58  126 1.177
 1979 34 PHI NL  18  11  35  35  13   4   0  0  251.0  202  112  101  25   89  213   5  10  1029  11  11  3.62  3.85  106 1.159
 1980 35 PHI NL  24   9  38  38  13   3   0  0  304.0  243   87   79  15   90  286   2  17  1228  12   7  2.34  3.79  162 1.095
 1981 36 PHI NL  13   4  24  24  10   1   0  0  190.0  152   59   51   9   62  179   1   9   763   3   4  2.42  3.63  150 1.126
 1982 37 PHI NL  23  11  38  38  19   6   0  0  295.7  253  114  102  17   86  286   1   9  1193   5   9  3.10  3.68  119 1.147
 1983 38 PHI NL  15  16  37  37   8   3   0  0  283.7  277  117   98  20   84  275   3  13  1183  10   9  3.11  3.56  115 1.273
 1984 39 PHI NL  13   7  33  33   1   0   0  0  229.0  214  104   91  14   79  163   0  11   964   7   7  3.58  3.63  101 1.279
 1985 40 PHI NL   1   8  16  16   0   0   0  0   92.0   84   43   34   6   53   48   0   3   401   4   2  3.33  3.71  111 1.489
 1986 41 TOT      9  14  32  32   0   0   0  0  176.3  196  120  100  25   86  120   1   7   792   4   2  5.10  3.97   78 1.599
         TOT NL   5  11  22  22   0   0   0  0  113.0  138   90   74  19   61   80   1   5   533   4   1  5.89  3.79   64 1.761
         PHI NL   4   8  16  16   0   0   0  0   83.0  102   70   57  15   45   62   0   3   393   4   0  6.18  3.88   63 1.771
         SFG NL   1   3   6   6   0   0   0  0   30.0   36   20   17   4   16   18   1   2   140   0   1  5.10  3.54   69 1.733
         CHW AL   4   3  10  10   0   0   0  0   63.3   58   30   26   6   25   40   0   2   259   0   1  3.69  4.31  117 1.311
 1987 42 TOT AL   6  14  32  21   3   0   5  1  152.0  165  111   97  24   86   91   4   7   693   4   5  5.74  4.59   80 1.651
         CLE AL   5   9  23  14   3   0   3  1  109.0  111   76   65  17   63   71   2   5   493   3   4  5.37  4.56   85 1.596
         MIN AL   1   5   9   7   0   0   2  0   43.0   54   35   32   7   23   20   2   2   200   1   1  6.70  4.65   69 1.791
 1988 43 MIN AL   0   1   4   1   0   0   1  0    9.7   20   19   18   5    5    5   0   0    54   1   2 16.76  4.09   24 2.586
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
 24 Yr WL% .574 329 244 741 709 254  55  13  2 5217.3 4672 2130 1864 414 1833 4136  53 183 21683 150  90  3.22  3.70  115 1.247
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+

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Old 07-31-2006, 12:55 PM   #127
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon
48. JCMElway

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Old 07-31-2006, 02:35 PM   #128
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Killericon is happy to pick yet another Home Run King; Sammy Sosa.




When the Chicago White Sox traded Sammy Sosa to their crosstown rival Cubs for George Bell in March of 1992, their young prospect had never hit more than fifteen home runs in a season at any level. But six years later, the young Dominican from the baseball goldmine of San Pedro de Macoris hit 66 home runs -- the second-highest total in baseball history -- as his pursuit of Mark McGwire in the race to break Roger Maris' record of 61 homers captivated the baseball world. Even though McGwire outpaced Sosa with 70 round-trippers, Sosa's leadership, effervescent personality and humility gave him an overwhelming victory in balloting for the NL MVP award in one of baseball's most memorable seasons.

Sosa's early years were spent in poverty. As a youngster in the Dominican Republic, he and his friends used tree branches as bats and milk cartons to field ground balls. To earn money, the young Sosa sold orange juice and shined shoes. An early Rangers scouting report described him as "malnourished," but there was no doubting his bat speed. Texas scout Omar Minaya signed him to a contract after agreeing to give Sosa a $3,500 signing bonus, most of which remained in the Dominican Republic with Sosa's family. But by the time he won the 1998 NL MVP Award, Sosa owned at least eight cars, including a Rolls-Royce, and a luxurious Chicago apartment two floors above Oprah Winfrey's.

Sosa's minor-league and early career performance never hinted at the potential power held in his slender 6'0" frame. In his first season in rookie ball, Sosa was a teammate of 1998 AL MVP Juan Gonzalez and future stars Dean Palmer and Wilson Alvarez, but displayed a disturbing tendency to chase bad pitches.

He played just 25 games for Texas in 1989 (hitting the first home run of his career off Roger Clemens on June 21st) before the Rangers traded him to the White Sox, along with pitcher Wilson Alvarez and infielder Scott Fletcher, for Harold Baines and Fred Manrique on July 29th. Years later, former Rangers owner George W. Bush would draw a big laugh at a South Carolina debate during his 2000 presidential campaign when he called the Baines/Sosa swap his biggest mistake as an adult.

In little more than two seasons with Chicago, Sosa never developed into a great hitter, but played a key role on the worst-to-almost-first White Sox of 1990. That season he was the only American League player to reach double-digits in doubles, triples, home runs and stolen bases, but he batted just .233, struck out 150 times in 532 at-bats, and made 13 errors in the outfield. Problems dogged Sosa off the field as well. That winter, he was accused of viciously beating his wife after she refused to grant him a divorce.

Frustrated by another subpar performance in 1991, the White Sox had no hesitation in sending Sosa to the crosstown Cubs before the 1992 season. While Sosa had yet to prove he was little more than a mediocre outfielder with good speed but no pop in his bat, the friendly confines of Wrigley Field would dramatically alter the course of Sosa's career. Limited to 67 games with the Cubs his first year (he fractured both his right hand and left ankle during the course of the season) Sosa began paying big dividends for Chicago in 1993. Suddenly emerging as a power threat, he more than doubled his career high for home runs, slamming 33. Adding 36 stolen bases, he became the first Cub to reach the 30/30 club -- a feat he would duplicate in 1995.

The next four seasons would look much the same for Sosa. He would hit as many as 40 home runs (in 1996), drive in as many as 119 runs (1995 and 1997), bat as high as .300 (1994), and strike out as many as 174 times (1997). Still, his team consistently finished out of contention, and after the 1997 season Cubs manager Jim Riggleman publicly criticized his star right fielder for being more concerned with his stats than with helping the team win.

Success in 1998 quickly brought an end to any acrimony that remained between the two. A flurry of offseason moves bolstered the Cubs' roster and raised hopes for the coming season. Rookie pitcher Kerry Wood was called up early in the season, and promptly tied Roger Clemens' major league record by striking out 20 Houston Astros on May 6th at Wrigley Field. With the Cubs near the top of the wild-card standings, Sosa had just nine home runs through May 24th -- fifteen behind McGwire.

But beginning with two homers against Atlanta the following day, Sosa embarked upon the greatest home run splurge baseball had ever seen. He set records with 21 circuit blasts over a 30-day period from May 25th through June 23rd, and another by hitting 20 home runs in June, the most ever hit in a single month. This spectacular run (which included one stretch of 21 round-trippers in 24 games) propelled him into a neck-and-neck race with McGwire for Roger Maris' record. On August 19th, McGwire watched from first base At Wrigley Field when Sosa slammed number 48 off Kent Bottenfeld of St. Louis, pulling ahead of the Cardinals' slugger for the first time all season. But two consecutive homers by McGwire later that game reclaimed a lead he would relinquish just once more.

Despite their contrasting personae, the pursuit of history forged a compelling and touching friendship between the towering, redheaded McGwire and the stylish, laid-back Sosa amidst the media maelstrom that surrounded the chase. The circus reached a crescendo during a Labor Day weekend series between the Cubs and Cardinals, but the two sluggers charmed the nation in joint press conferences, disregarding the pressure of the chase and by all appearances thoroughly enjoying themselves.

Sosa, who had insisted all along that McGwire would be the one to set the record, drew the biggest laughs by joking, "everyday a holiday for Sammy Sosa" and "baseball been 'bery, 'bery good to me." Earlier in the year, when McGwire had been criticized for using a controversial testosterone booster, Sosa revealed the secret of his success -- Flintstones vitamins.

It was only fitting that Sosa stood in right field on September 8th when McGwire hit the record-setting 62nd off Steve Trachsel at Busch Stadium. As McGwire celebrated outside his dugout, Sosa ran in from the outfield to deliver a heartfelt hug to the new home king. McGwire promptly lifted his friendly nemesis off his feet.

Although McGwire's Cardinals had long since exited post-season contention, Sosa's Cubs were in the thick of a thrilling three-way battle with the Mets and the Giants for the NL wild-card spot. The pressure of the pennant race heightened the drama of Sosa's home run barrage. On September 13th, Sosa tied McGwire by launching two mammoth shots out of Wrigley Field for numbers 61 and 62, while the Cubs pulled off a dramatic 11-10 sudden-death win to remain a game ahead of the Mets in the wild-card standings.

As the season drew to a close, fans of all teams greeted Sosa like a conquering hero. In San Diego on September 16th, a packed crowd at Qualcomm Stadium stood on its feet, cheering wildly, as Sosa batted with the bases full in the eighth inning of a tie game. When the slugger obliged the crowd by sending his third grand slam of the year into the second deck in left field, the fans called him back onto the field for a standing ovation. The next day several Padres complained that the contest had felt like a road game.

A week later in Milwaukee, Sosa hit number 64 and 65 to tie Hank Greenberg's 1938 record of 11 multi-homer games in one season. Two days later Sosa cranked number 66 in Houston, and for the second and last time that season, crept ahead of McGwire. For 47 minutes, before his friend and rival tied him with a home run in a game in St. Louis, Sammy Sosa had hit more home runs in a single season than any player in baseball history.

Even though McGwire ended the season with four home runs in his final two games to establish a new single-season record of 70, Sosa got the upper hand in two vital respects. First, the Cubs completed their dreamlike regular season by winning a one-game playoff at Wrigley Field over San Francisco to earn the wild-card spot. (In the NLDS, the overmatched Cubs were swept by the powerful Atlanta Braves in three games.) Second, Sosa, who batted .308 for the season and led the major leagues with 158 RBIs, 134 runs scored and 414 total bases, was named the NL MVP in a landslide vote over McGwire.

Sosa's offseason was a busy one. In Japan for a post-season goodwill tournament, Sosa managed to negotiate the delivery of much-needed supplies to his hurricane-devastated homeland. Strangely, a post-season parade in Sosa's honor was held in New York, but not in Chicago. During his stay, Sosa gave New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani a bat, which Giuliani mistakenly believed was the one Sosa had used to hit his 66th home run. Sosa later apologized for the misunderstanding.

Following the celebratory hoopla of the 1998 season, the follow-up felt like a letdown. While McGwire (65) and Sosa (63) racked up the third and fourth highest single-season home run figures in baseball history, the drama that had fueled the chase in 1998 seemed absent in 1999.

The following year began with a wrinkle, as new Cubs manager Don Baylor made it known early in 2000 that he wanted the slugger to steal more and play better defense. But the bulked-up Sosa wasn't as dangerous on the basepaths as he had been in the early '90s, and swiping bags was no longer a part of his game.

More glaring was Sosa's contract dispute with management. With the Cubs floundering in last place for much of the season, the front office was tempted to trade the star -- who was in the penultimate year of his contract -- to a contender for a horde of quality players. But despite shopping him around, the Cubs realized that public support to keep the slugger was tremendous, and they eventually took him off the market. Sosa ended up with another stellar year, even though the Cubs sported the worst record in the majors. He batted .320, tallied 138 RBIs, and slammed fifty homers, joining McGwire as the only other player to have three consecutive years of 50 home runs.

He was rewarded in March 2001 with a four-year, $72 million deal in March 2001, becoming the fourth-highest paid player in baseball at the time.

He is now an Unrestricted FA.

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Old 07-31-2006, 03:05 PM   #129
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Bah. You can have Sosa. Obviously a product of the steroid era. I want nothing to do with Bonds, Maguire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Giambi, Canseco.....

They're all cheaters and a disservice to the game. Period.
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Steve "Lefty" Carlton

Steven Norman Carlton (Lefty)



Bats Left, Throws Left
Height 6' 4", Weight 210 lb.

Debut April 12, 1965
Final Game April 23, 1988
Born December 22, 1944 in Miami, FL

Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1994.
  • The first man to win four Cy Young Awards.
  • The first man to surpass 4,000 strikeouts.
  • The second winningest lefthander in MLB history.

Damn you Slap, he was a guy I was targeting this round.

Great pick!
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway

JCMElway is now on the clock with two selections.
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With selections in the 6th and 7th round Those Cheap Bastards select:

Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

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Jackie Robinson, 2B, Dodgers
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I think it's time to start posting depth charts! Makes it easier to see what positions have been taken and which haven't.

Clockwork, do you have time to post the depth charts for everybody, or would you like me to?

C --
1B --
2B -- Jackie Robinson
SS -- Ernie Banks
3B --
LF -- Al Kaline
CF -- Joe DiMaggio
RF -- Roberto Clemente
DH -- Babe Ruth

SP -- Roger Clemens
SP --
SP --
SP --
SP --

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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon
51. -Slap-
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54. Red Rocket RC
55. Clockwork Orange
56. Breck Bronc

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Old 07-31-2006, 04:22 PM   #135
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Griffey was raised in Cincinnati, Ohio, where his father, Ken Griffey, Sr. played for the Cincinnati Reds. The younger Griffey played baseball at Moeller High School, a Catholic school in Cincinnati better known for its football program. While he was in high school, he drew raves from Major League scouts for his batting swing, widely regarded as the best of his generation, and effortless fielding prowess. In fact, Griffey's teammates would supposedly play closer to the lines in order for Griffey to take advantage of (and display) his great range in center field.

In 1987 Griffey was selected with the first overall pick of that year's amateur draft by the Seattle Mariners. As a big leaguer, he was well on the way to the Rookie of the Year award but was thwarted when he slipped in the shower and broke a bone in his right hand in late July, 1989. While with the Mariners, Junior, as he is often called, established himself as one of baseball's premier players, and during the '90s, Griffey was considered one of the best players of the time. In fact, many consider him to be the "player of the 90s" despite playing in a hitter's park (the Kingdome) and having arguably inferior statistics to the less-likeable Barry Bonds. Other competitors for the title might have been Frank Thomas and, more questionably, Albert Belle. Before injuries cut into his production, he was a top run producer and the best center fielder in the big leagues although Devon White and Jim Edmonds also merit mention. Griffey hit for a high average, batting over .300 for seven of the years of the '90s, and hit with power as well, slugging 422 home runs during the decade.

Additionally, his defense in center field breeched no rivals during that decade. Thanks to his impressive range, Griffey frequently made spectacular diving plays, and he often dazzled fans by making over-the-shoulder basket catches (a la Willie Mays' "the Catch" in the 1954 World Series) and by robbing opposing hitters of home runs at the wall — leaping up and pulling them back into the field of play. For all of these reasons, Ken Griffey Jr. was one of baseball's most respected and well-liked players during the 1990s. He was featured on the Wheaties cereal box and, because of his general likability and lack of legal problems, was an effective pitchman. Griffey also had his own signature sneaker line from Nike, Inc.
One of Ken Griffey Jr. signature sneakers, the Nike Air Griffey Max.
One of Ken Griffey Jr. signature sneakers, the Nike Air Griffey Max.

Because of his all-around excellent play, he was a perennial participant in the All-Star Game, particularly during the 1990s although less so during the early '00s because of injuries. Junior has led his league multiple times in hitting categories and was awarded Gold Gloves for his defensive excellence from 1990 to 1999. Griffey also became one of a very small number to have played on the same team as his father, Ken Griffey Sr in 1990 and 1991. In 1997, he won the American League Most Valuable Player award, hitting .304, with 56 home runs and 147 runs batted in.

Perhaps the single most memorable moment of Griffey's career with the Mariners came during the 1995 American League Division Series (ALDS) against the New York Yankees. After falling behind in the series 0-2, they came back to take the next two games and create a must-win Game Five. In the bottom of the 11th inning of Game 5, Griffey scored from first base on an Edgar Martinez double, giving the Mariners the win and seeing them through to the American League Championship Series (ALCS). Although the Mariners lost the ALCS to now-Mariners manager Mike Hargrove's Indians, the moment is one of the most memorable in Mariners history, and the series has been credited with "saving baseball in Seattle", given speculation that the Mariners might move. A video game for Super NES, "Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run" commemorates the moment.

In 1999, he ranked Number 93 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Baseball Players. This list was compiled during the 1998 season, counting only statistics through 1997. It was argued by some that, had the voting been done two or three years later, he would have been ranked several places higher: at age 29 (going on 30), he was easily the youngest player on the list. That same year, Griffey was elected to the Major League Baseball All-Century Team. However, when TSN updated their list for a new book in 2005, despite having surpassed 400 and 500 home runs, Griffey remained at Number 93. He is currently 11th place on the all-time home runs list with 556, eight ahead of Mike Schmidt and seven behind Reggie Jackson. He has the second-most of any active player, behind only Barry Bonds, who has 722.
Despite Griffey's elite performances and seemingly bright future in Seattle, he nonetheless became disenchanted with playing for the Mariners. Publicly, he expressed frustration over what he believed was a lack of commitment to winning on the part of Seattle management.

Also, there was speculation that Griffey was very unhappy with Seattle's new park, Safeco Field, a stadium in which it was much harder for hitters to produce runs than in the Kingdome. It has been reported that Griffey — along with other Seattle players — requested that the architects of Safeco Field bring the fences closer to home plate, but that, much to the players' chagrin, the designers built a park with deeper-than-average dimensions (especially in center field). This, combined with Safeco being at sea level and Seattle's typically dense, moisture-laden atmosphere, helped create a "pitcher-friendly" ballpark where power hitters like Griffey would see their batting statistics suffer. In the summer of 1999, it was reported that Griffey hit a ball that would likely have been a home run in the Kingdome, but turned into a long fly-out to center in Safeco. Then, allegedly, Griff stormed angrily to the Mariner dugout telephone, calling the Mariner General Manager and demanding a trade that day [citation needed]. Although Griffey has always denied an interest in baseball's hallowed records, it appeared in 1999 that he had his sights set on breaking Hank Aaron's all-time home run record. Another reason why Griffey might want to leave Seattle would be an interest in playing for the team for which his father starred for some time.

Griffey ultimately got his wish, and following the 1999 season, was traded to the Cincinnati Reds, for Mike Cameron, Brett Tomko, and Antonio Pérez. Initially, the future looked extremely bright for him in Cincinnati. It was the city in which he had grown up, and Griffey was reportedly very pleased to be playing on his father's former team — on the open market, Griffey could have made several million dollars more than the contract offered by the small-market Reds. However, his contract apparently includes backloaded payments which will be paid until 2024.

The 2000 season began what has generally been seen by the media as a decline in Griffey's superstar status. Although his statistics during this season were respectable, they were far below his previous level of play: in 145 games, Griffey hit .271 with 40 home runs, but his .942 On-base plus slugging was his lowest mark in five years. Griffey's request for his old jersey number also served as a distraction. While Griffey was wearing his father's number, 30, he was unable to wear his number of '24'. (A number that supposedly brought him much luck in Seattle). However, this number was already retired for the Cincinnati Reds' Tony Perez. The Reds did not grant Griffey his request. Additionally, from 2001 through 2004, Griffey was plagued by a seemingly endless string of injuries, including season-ending injuries in 2002, 2003, and 2004. Worse yet for Griffey, the cumulative effects of the injuries lowered his bat speed, resulting in less power and fewer home runs (he slugged only .426 before succumbing to injury in 2002, his lowest output in seven years). Some speculate that Griffey's myriad injuries are a result of a decade of playing on the Kingdome's artificial turf, which players claim is essentially like playing the game on asphalt. Others suggest that Griffey's lack of commitment to physical fitness while he was in his twenties (relative to other Major Leaguers like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, both of whom played effectively well into their forties) opened him up to injury problems as he got older. Whatever the causes, though, injuries forced Griffey to miss 260 out of 486 games from 2002 through 2004, diminishing both his skills and his star reputation. Consequently, he is not nearly the ubiquitous presence he once was on cereal boxes, television commercials, and the All-Star Game.

In 2004, Griffey avoided major injury during the first half of the season, and on June 20 became the 20th player to hit 500 career home runs. His 500th home run came, fittingly, on Father's Day in a game against the St. Louis Cardinals at Busch Stadium, with his father Ken Sr. in the stands; the homer also tied Ken Jr. with his father for career hits with 2,143. However, the injury bug bit again just before the All-Star break, when Griffey, Jr. suffered a partial hamstring tear, knocking him out of the All-Star Game and putting him on the disabled list yet again. He did get his 500th home run ball from a fan who was also there for Father's Day with his dad. The fan received many rewards from Griffey Jr.

Griffey finished the 2004 season on the disabled list after suffering a complete rupture of his right hamstring in San Francisco on August 11. The play in question occurred at SBC Park in a game against the San Francisco Giants. Griffey was starting in right field for the first time in his 16-year Major League career when he raced toward the gap to try to cut off a ball before it got to the wall. He slid as he got to the ball, but in the process hyperextended his right leg. He later came out of the game, complaining of "tightness" in the hamstring exacerbated by chilly conditions in San Francisco. But there was far more to it than anyone realized at the time.

Shortly after this injury, the Reds' team physician, Timothy Kremchek, devised an experimental surgery dubbed "The Junior Operation" that would use three titanium screws to reattach Griffey's hamstring. For several weeks, Griffey's right leg was in a sling that kept the leg at a 90-degree angle, and he was not able to move the leg until late October. After an intense rehabilitation period, he returned for the 2005 season. In April, he hit only .244 with only one homer (on April 30) and nine RBI.[2]

Starting May 1, the 2005 season saw the resurgence of a healthy Griffey. The fluid swing, which depends heavily on excellent lower body strength, returned to its original form, now that Griffey's hamstring and calf problems appear behind him. Junior's 35 home runs were his highest since his first year with the Reds as Griffey slowly moved up the career home run list. He ended the season tied with Mickey Mantle, after having passed Jimmie Foxx, Ted Williams, Willie McCovey, Ernie Banks, Eddie Mathews, and Mel Ott in 2005.

Early in September, he strained a tendon in his left foot (an injury unrelated to his past hamstring and calf problems), and was listed as day-to-day for several weeks. On September 22, with the Reds out of playoff contention, the team decided to bench him for the rest of the season so he could immediately have arthroscopic surgery on his left knee and a separate operation to repair scars from his 2004 hamstring operation. Still, his 128 games in 2005 were the most he has played since 2000. Griffey's resurgence was recognized when he was named National League Comeback Player of the Year.

If his health remains intact, Junior could reach 600 home runs sometime in the 2007 season, at age 37. Had the chronic injuries of 2001-2004 not limited his astronomical progress, the question would have been when, not if, Griffey would surpass Hank Aaron's record of 755 career home runs.

Griffey also played in the inaugural 2006 World Baseball Classic (WBC) for the United States, where he was one of the team's biggest contributors, notching three home runs during the event.

During the second game of the 2006 season, Griffey hit home run #537 which overtook Mickey Mantle's 12th all-time position on the home run list.

Griffey and his wife Melissa have 3 children: George Kenneth III ("Trey"), daughter Taryn Kennedy, and adopted son Tevin Kendall. When Trey was born, then-Mariners' G.M. Woody Woodward sent him a player's contract dated 2012. Griffey switched his uniform number in 2006, from 30 to 3, to honor his three kids.

Griffey returned on May 11, 2006 from an injury he suffered to his knee on April 12, 2006 to hit a walk-off three-run home run in the bottom of the 11th inning against the Washington Nationals. On June 5th, 2006 Jr tied Fred McGriff's record by hitting a homerun in his 43rd different ballpark, at the St. Louis Cardinals' Busch Stadium. On June 19, 2006 Griffey hit career home run 548, tying him with Mike Schmidt, and then six days later passed Schmidt with 549. On June 27, 2006 Griffey hit his 550th career home run against the Kansas City Royals.
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap-
52. BroncoLB52
53. Atwater
54. Red Rocket RC
55. Clockwork Orange
56. Breck Bronc

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Height 5' 11", Weight 150 lb.

Debut April 7, 1978
Final Game September 29, 1996

Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2002.
  • First ballot Hall of Famer.

  • Won 13 consecutive Gold Gloves from 1980-1992.

  • Named to the NL All-Star team 15 times.

  • Second in MVP voting in 1987.

  • MVP 1985 NL Championship Series.

  • Hit the winning home run off LA Dodgers reliever Tom Niedenfuer to end game five of the 1985 NLCS. Smith had gone 3009 lefthanded ABs without a home run before connecting on that blast.

  • 580 stolen bases in 728 sttempts. 20th on the career list and his 79.7 percent success rate ranks 17th.

  • Swiped at least 30 bases 11 times and topped 40 steals five times.

  • Led NL shortstops in fielding percentage seven times.

  • Led the league in assists and total chances eight times, both career records for shortstops.

  • His 621 assists in 1980 remains the single-season record.

  • Set an NL record for fewest errors in a season by a shortstop in 1991 with 8.

  • Holds the major league record for shortstops for most assists (8375), most double plays (1590) and most total chances accepted (12,624).

  • A poll of major leaguers rated his diving, barehanded, grab of Jeff Burroughs' bad hop grounder up the middle as the greatest play they're ever seen.

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Code:
Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG   TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 1978 23 SDP NL 159  590   69  152  17  6   1   46  40 12  47  43  .258  .311  .312  184  28   3   0   0  11
 1979 24 SDP NL 156  587   77  124  18  6   0   27  28  7  37  37  .211  .260  .262  154  22   1   5   2  11
 1980 25 SDP NL 158  609   67  140  18  5   0   35  57 15  71  49  .230  .313  .276  168  23   4   1   5   9
 1981 26 SDP NL 110  450   53  100  11  2   0   21  22 12  41  37  .222  .294  .256  115  10   1   1   5   8
 1982 27 STL NL 140  488   58  121  24  1   2   43  25  5  68  32  .248  .339  .314  153   4   5  12   2  10
 1983 28 STL NL 159  552   69  134  30  6   3   50  34  7  64  36  .243  .321  .335  185   7   2   9   1  10
 1984 29 STL NL 124  412   53  106  20  5   1   44  35  7  56  17  .257  .347  .337  139  11   3   5   2   8
 1985 30 STL NL 158  537   70  148  22  3   6   54  31  8  65  27  .276  .355  .361  194   9   2  11   2  13
 1986 31 STL NL 153  514   67  144  19  4   0   54  31  7  79  27  .280  .376  .333  171  11   3  13   2   9
 1987 32 STL NL 158  600  104  182  40  4   0   75  43  9  89  36  .303  .392  .383  230  12   4   3   1   9
 1988 33 STL NL 153  575   80  155  27  1   3   51  57  9  74  43  .270  .350  .336  193  12   7   2   1   7
 1989 34 STL NL 155  593   82  162  30  8   2   50  29  7  55  37  .273  .335  .361  214  11   3   3   2  10
 1990 35 STL NL 143  512   61  130  21  1   1   50  32  6  61  33  .254  .330  .305  156   7  10   4   2   8
 1991 36 STL NL 150  550   96  157  30  3   3   50  35  9  83  36  .285  .380  .367  202   6   1   2   1   8
 1992 37 STL NL 132  518   73  153  20  2   0   31  43  9  59  34  .295  .367  .342  177  12   1   4   0  11
 1993 38 STL NL 141  545   75  157  22  6   1   53  21  8  43  18  .288  .337  .356  194   7   7   1   1  11
 1994 39 STL NL  98  381   51  100  18  3   3   30   6  3  38  26  .262  .326  .349  133  10   4   3   0   3
 1995 40 STL NL  44  156   16   31   5  1   0   11   4  3  17  12  .199  .282  .244   38   5   2   0   2   6
 1996 41 STL NL  82  227   36   64  10  2   2   18   7  5  25   9  .282  .358  .370   84   7   0   0   2   5
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 19 Seasons         9396      2460     69      793    148     589  .262  .337  .328      214  63  79  33 167
               2573      1257      402     28      580   1072                       3084
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+

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Hit the series winning home run off LA Dodgers reliever Tom Niedenfuer to end the 1985 NLCS. Smith had gone 3009 lefthanded ABs without a home run before connecting on that blast.
First, let me say that I hate you. I really hate you. You just took my favorite player of all time and the guy I had slated for my next pick. I hate you.

Also, just wanted to say that The Wizard's blast off of Niedenfuer didn't end the series. It was Jack Clark's blast off of Niedenfuer in the next game (a move that Lasorda is still criticized for to this day) in L.A. that was the series winner.

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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

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25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

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33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

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41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

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49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52
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55. Clockwork Orange
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Old 07-31-2006, 08:40 PM   #141
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First, let me say that I hate you. I really hate you. You just took my favorite player of all time and the guy I had slated for my next pick. I hate you.

Also, just wanted to say that The Wizard's blast off of Niedenfuer didn't end the series. It was Jack Clark's blast off of Niedenfuer in the next game (a move that Lasorda is still criticized for to this day) in L.A. that was the series winner.

I really, really hate you.
Oh yeah, last I recall, Clark's ball was sailing towards the top of those palm trees behind the bullpen. I wonder if its landed yet.

By the way, you have to stand in line to hate me around here.......
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Oh yeah, last I recall, Clark's ball was sailing towards the top of those palm trees behind the bullpen. I wonder if its landed yet.

By the way, you have to stand in line to hate me around here.......
Yep. That was one of the biggest no-doubters in postseason history. The ball exploded off of his bat and got out of the yard in about half a heartbeat. I hadn't seen one quite like it since until Pujols destroyed that hanging slider from Lidge last year.

On second thought, I guess this makes us even since I nabbed Jack Youngblood ahead of you in the All-Time NFL draft.
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Yep. That was one of the biggest no-doubters in postseason history. The ball exploded off of his bat and got out of the yard in about half a heartbeat. I hadn't seen one quite like it since until Pujols destroyed that hanging slider from Lidge last year.

On second thought, I guess this makes us even since I nabbed Jack Youngblood ahead of you in the All-Time NFL draft.
Nothing will ever make us even for that.

I corrected the Ozzie bio. I still have to punch up Lefty's, but I'm feeling lazy.

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1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

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9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater
54. Red Rocket RC
55. Clockwork Orange
56. Breck Bronc

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With my next selection I chose
Jackie Robinson Second Baseman Kansas City Monarchs/Brooklyn Dodgers
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Robinson was already taken by JCMElway with the first pick of the 7th round.

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Old 07-31-2006, 11:55 PM   #148
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Robinson was already taken by JCMElway with the first pick of the 7th round.

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Oh-HO!

I was wondering when that was gonna happen for the first time.
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We'll give Atwater a little more time to make his pick and then we'll move on.
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Old 08-01-2006, 03:30 PM   #150
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Robinson was already taken by JCMElway with the first pick of the 7th round.

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Oopps Well then I select Eric Gagne RP LAD
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