Republicans Resorting to Violence Around Country Over Healthcare Bill - The Orange Mane

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-25-2010, 04:27 AM

This should be expected I guess, when you consider the rhetoric by Republican mouth pieces in the press and their own party.

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Hurled bricks, threats surround health overhaul
By EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS, Associated Press Writer Emily Wagster Pettus, Associated Press Writer – 49 mins ago

Unrest over sweeping federal health care legislation has turned to vandalism and threats, with bricks hurled through Democrats' windows, a propane line cut at the home of a congressman's brother and menacing phone messages left for lawmakers who supported the bill.

The FBI is investigating the instances, which include shattered windows at four Democratic offices in New York, Arizona and Kansas. At least 10 members of Congress have reported some sort of threat as of Wednesday, and no arrests have been made.

The brick flung through the window of a county Democratic Party office in Rochester, N.Y., over the weekend had a note attached: "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice," roughly quoting 1964 Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater.

This picture provided on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 by the Monroe County Democratic Committee in Rochester, N.Y. shows damage to their office after a glass door was struck with a brick with a note reading 'Exremism in Defense of Liberty Is no Vice' sometime from late Saturday, March 20, 2010 or Sunday, March 21, 2010. Bricks have been hurled through Democrats' windows, a propane line was cut at the home of a congressman's brother and lawmakers who voted for a federal health care bill have received phone threats in the days before and after passage of the sweeping legislation.
(AP Photo/Monroe County Democratic Committee)

A New York congresswoman whose office window also was smashed with a brick accused the Republican leadership of failing to denounce attacks against lawmakers who supported the legislation. The vandalism was at Democratic Rep. Louise Slaughter's district office in Niagara Falls early Friday, two days before the House passed the health care overhaul bill.

"It's more disturbing to me that Republican leadership has not condemned these attacks and instead appears to be fanning the flames with coded rhetoric," said Slaughter, a key supporter of the bill.

House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said in a statement that while many Americans are angry over the bill's passage, "violence and threats are unacceptable."

"That's not the American way," Boehner said. "We need to take that anger and channel it into positive change."

The FBI and Capitol Police were briefing Democratic lawmakers on how to handle perceived security threats, said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. Those who feel they are at risk will be "getting attention from the proper authorities," Hoyer said, declining to say whether any are receiving extra security. Normally only those in leadership positions have personal security guards.

At a news conference in Washington, Hoyer said people have yelled that Democratic lawmakers should be put on firing lines and posters have appeared with the faces of lawmakers in the cross hairs of a target.

While not directly criticizing Republicans, Hoyer said that "any show of appreciation for such actions encourages such action."

Gun imagery was used in a posting on the Facebook page of Sarah Palin urging people to organize against 20 House Democrats who voted for the health care bill and whose districts went for the John McCain-Palin ticket two years ago. Palin's post featured a U.S. map with circles and cross hairs over the 20 districts.

Some of the anger over the bill spilled over in a flood of obscenity and threat-filled phone and fax messages to the office of Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich. His office released some of the messages it has received since the health care bill passed, declining to add further comment.

"I hope you bleed ... (get) cancer and die," one male caller told the congressman between curses.

A fax with the title "Defecating on Stupak" carried a picture of a gallows with "Bart (SS) Stupak" on it and a noose attached. It was captioned, "All Baby Killers come to unseemly ends Either by the hand of man or by the hand of God."

The vandalism and threats surprised a researcher at a think tank that monitors extremist groups.

"I think it is astounding that we are seeing this wave of vigilantism," said Mark Potok of the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.

In Virginia, someone cut a propane line leading to a grill at the Charlottesville home of U.S. Rep. Tom Perriello's brother after the address was posted online by activists angry about the health care overhaul. Perriello also said a threatening letter was sent to his brother's house. The FBI and local authorities were investigating.

Tea party activists had posted the brother's address online thinking it was the congressman's home. The post urged opponents to drop by and "express their thanks" for the Democrat's vote in favor of the sweeping health care reform.

Nigel Coleman, chairman of the Danville Tea Party, said he re-posted the comment that originated on another conservative blog, including the address, Monday on his Facebook page. The posts were taken down after the mistake was discovered.

"We've never been associated with any violence or any vandalism," he said. "We're definitely sorry that we posted the incorrect address."

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That One Guy · 03-25-2010, 06:14 AM

One day, when America isn't as nice as it is today, we'll all look back and see how insignificant some of our problems were and how nice we had it.

barryr · 03-25-2010, 06:23 AM

Who condones such behavior? Crimes should get punished, which is kind of a new thing for liberals I know.

But how about we call them "freedom fighters" since that's what most liberals wanted to call the terrorists in Iraq? Strangely, the liberal media didn't have much to say about the kind of violence that the left was up to when doing their anti-war protests across this country. I guess it's ok to do such things depending on what side of the political aisle you reside. Pathetic.

Rohirrim · 03-25-2010, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by barryr

Who condones such behavior? Crimes should get punished, which is kind of a new thing for liberals I know.

But how about we call them "freedom fighters" since that's what most liberals wanted to call the terrorists in Iraq? Strangely, the liberal media didn't have much to say about the kind of violence that the left was up to when doing their anti-war protests across this country. I guess it's ok to do such things depending on what side of the political aisle you reside. Pathetic.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. That's all the rightards have any more. Act like brats, refuse to take responsibility for it, blame somebody else. Yep. The average toddler behavior.

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-25-2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by barryr

Who condones such behavior? Crimes should get punished, which is kind of a new thing for liberals I know.

But how about we call them "freedom fighters" since that's what most liberals wanted to call the terrorists in Iraq? Strangely, the liberal media didn't have much to say about the kind of violence that the left was up to when doing their anti-war protests across this country. I guess it's ok to do such things depending on what side of the political aisle you reside. Pathetic.

Ah, one Republican's answer to his party going down the low road.....deflect, accuse the other party and finish with a criticism of the other party. No wonder Americans who claim to be Republican have dropped to under 20% now.

TailgateNut · 03-25-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Ah, one Republican's answer to his party going down the low road.....deflect, accuse the other party and finish with a criticism of the other party. No wonder Americans who claim to be Republican have dropped to under 20% now.

That is definately the correct terminology for those who act as if they magically changed their stripes.

That One Guy · 03-25-2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by barryr

Who condones such behavior? Crimes should get punished, which is kind of a new thing for liberals I know.

But how about we call them "freedom fighters" since that's what most liberals wanted to call the terrorists in Iraq? Strangely, the liberal media didn't have much to say about the kind of violence that the left was up to when doing their anti-war protests across this country. I guess it's ok to do such things depending on what side of the political aisle you reside. Pathetic.

You don't justify something like this under the two wrongs make a right process. There's plenty of avenues for actually making progress. Cutting someone's propane lines is just being annoying.

TailgateNut · 03-25-2010, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by That One Guy

You don't justify something like this under the two wrongs make a right process. There's plenty of avenues for actually making progress. Cutting someone's propane lines is just being annoying.

Are you kidding. I would tend to think someone could be convicted of attempted murder for cutting propane lines. I actually think those charges should be pursued.

Garcia Bronco · 03-25-2010, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

Are you kidding. I would tend to think someone could be convicted of attempted murder for cutting propane lines. I actually think those charges should be pursued.

Oh all of it should be investigated and pursued, however I can understand their anger. It'll pass.

TailgateNut · 03-25-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Oh all of it should be investigated and pursued, however I can understand their anger. It'll pass.

I doub't "it'll pass" until many off these wackjobs get tossed in the slammer. Then, and maybe only then, they will realize that their action can cost them their freedom.

gyldenlove · 03-26-2010, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barryr

Who condones such behavior? Crimes should get punished, which is kind of a new thing for liberals I know.

But how about we call them "freedom fighters" since that's what most liberals wanted to call the terrorists in Iraq? Strangely, the liberal media didn't have much to say about the kind of violence that the left was up to when doing their anti-war protests across this country. I guess it's ok to do such things depending on what side of the political aisle you reside. Pathetic.

Winners are patriots, freedom fighters and revolutionaries, losers are terrorists.

Garcia Bronco · 03-25-2010, 07:28 AM

People are pissed off that is the only thing that this shows. Can you blame them?

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-25-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

People are pissed off that is the only thing that this shows. Can you blame them?

Another excuse from a Republican for threatening people with their lives and actual physical violence.
Unreal!

Garcia Bronco · 03-25-2010, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Another excuse from a Republican for threatening people with their lives and actual physical violence.
Unreal!

a) I am not a Republican
b) People generally deserve what they get

Rohirrim · 03-25-2010, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

a) I am not a Republican
b) People generally deserve what they get

Like John Lennon? JFK? RFK? MLK?

Garcia Bronco · 03-25-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Like John Lennon? JFK? RFK? MLK?

Maybe. Who knows what kinds of things they actually did. It's a question only they could answer. I look at the deaths of what RFK and JFK as more the balances on the criminal activities of their father. Who was a POS criminal. Fate has a strange way of working out.

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-25-2010, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

a) I am not a Republican

Ah, right, I forgot, you people are running faster from that label than Usain Bolt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

b) People generally deserve what they get

Nice, so you condone violence and physical harm to people for "payback" who have done neither. What a piece of work you are!

Garcia Bronco · 03-25-2010, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Ah, right, I forgot, you people are running faster from that label than Usain Bolt. Nice, so you condone violence and physical harm to people for "payback" who have done neither. What a piece of work you are!

What do you mean "You people"?

I don't condone anything under this topic other than getting the Federal Government out of our daily decisions. I would rather people throw bricks at windows than shoot people. People are upset and while I wouldn't express myself that way I can understand their anger.

TailgateNut · 03-25-2010, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

a) I am not a Republican
b) People generally deserve what they get

a) Not any more (which btw is a trend of the GreedyOldParty.
b) so you condone attempted murder as a respone to legislation some doesn't agree with?

Garcia Bronco · 03-25-2010, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

a) Not any more (which btw is a trend of the GreedyOldParty.
b) so you condone attempted murder as a respone to legislation some doesn't agree with?

Let me get this striaght for you idiots, and beliueve me you are

I HAVE NEVER EVER BEEN A REGISTERED MEMEBER OF ANY POLITICAL PARTY EVER

Read Federalist Paper Number 10

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa10.htm

Fedaykin · 03-26-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

People are pissed off that is the only thing that this shows. Can you blame them?

Yes. They can be pissed off all they want. When they resort to violence they should be blamed.

I'm not surprised you condone their actions.

Garcia Bronco · 03-26-2010, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

Yes. They can be pissed off all they want. When they resort to violence they should be blamed.

I'm not surprised you condone their actions.

I don't condone their actions of violence. I can understand why they feel the way they do. I didn't say they were right. You are smarter than that. Don't believe me, then ask yourself.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-26-2010, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

Yes. They can be pissed off all they want. When they resort to violence they should be blamed.

I'm not surprised you condone their actions.

Neither am I.

Odds are Garcia has a Timmy McVey shrine in his mom's basement.

At any rate, these right-wing thugs referenced in the OP are essentially domestic terrorists. They should be hunted down and prosecuted (ditto for Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and those elected GOP officials who were egging these half-wits on.)

Bronx33 · 03-26-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Neither am I.

Odds are Garcia has a Timmy McVey shrine in his mom's basement.

At any rate, these right-wing thugs referenced in the OP are essentially domestic terrorists. They should be hunted down and prosecuted (ditto for Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and those elected GOP officials who were egging these half-wits on.)

Do you ever read your own posts and shake your head?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-26-2010, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronx33

Do you ever read your own posts and shake your head?

Do you ever answer a factual observation about the behavior of the thugs in your own party with anything other than a deflection?

03-25-2010, 04:27 AM	#1
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Republicans Resorting to Violence Around Country Over Healthcare Bill This should be expected I guess, when you consider the rhetoric by Republican mouth pieces in the press and their own party. ---------------------------------------------------------- Hurled bricks, threats surround health overhaul By EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS, Associated Press Writer Emily Wagster Pettus, Associated Press Writer – 49 mins ago Unrest over sweeping federal health care legislation has turned to vandalism and threats, with bricks hurled through Democrats' windows, a propane line cut at the home of a congressman's brother and menacing phone messages left for lawmakers who supported the bill. The FBI is investigating the instances, which include shattered windows at four Democratic offices in New York, Arizona and Kansas. At least 10 members of Congress have reported some sort of threat as of Wednesday, and no arrests have been made. The brick flung through the window of a county Democratic Party office in Rochester, N.Y., over the weekend had a note attached: "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice," roughly quoting 1964 Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater. This picture provided on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 by the Monroe County Democratic Committee in Rochester, N.Y. shows damage to their office after a glass door was struck with a brick with a note reading 'Exremism in Defense of Liberty Is no Vice' sometime from late Saturday, March 20, 2010 or Sunday, March 21, 2010. Bricks have been hurled through Democrats' windows, a propane line was cut at the home of a congressman's brother and lawmakers who voted for a federal health care bill have received phone threats in the days before and after passage of the sweeping legislation. (AP Photo/Monroe County Democratic Committee) A New York congresswoman whose office window also was smashed with a brick accused the Republican leadership of failing to denounce attacks against lawmakers who supported the legislation. The vandalism was at Democratic Rep. Louise Slaughter's district office in Niagara Falls early Friday, two days before the House passed the health care overhaul bill. "It's more disturbing to me that Republican leadership has not condemned these attacks and instead appears to be fanning the flames with coded rhetoric," said Slaughter, a key supporter of the bill. House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said in a statement that while many Americans are angry over the bill's passage, "violence and threats are unacceptable." "That's not the American way," Boehner said. "We need to take that anger and channel it into positive change." The FBI and Capitol Police were briefing Democratic lawmakers on how to handle perceived security threats, said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. Those who feel they are at risk will be "getting attention from the proper authorities," Hoyer said, declining to say whether any are receiving extra security. Normally only those in leadership positions have personal security guards. At a news conference in Washington, Hoyer said people have yelled that Democratic lawmakers should be put on firing lines and posters have appeared with the faces of lawmakers in the cross hairs of a target. While not directly criticizing Republicans, Hoyer said that "any show of appreciation for such actions encourages such action." Gun imagery was used in a posting on the Facebook page of Sarah Palin urging people to organize against 20 House Democrats who voted for the health care bill and whose districts went for the John McCain-Palin ticket two years ago. Palin's post featured a U.S. map with circles and cross hairs over the 20 districts. Some of the anger over the bill spilled over in a flood of obscenity and threat-filled phone and fax messages to the office of Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich. His office released some of the messages it has received since the health care bill passed, declining to add further comment. "I hope you bleed ... (get) cancer and die," one male caller told the congressman between curses. A fax with the title "Defecating on Stupak" carried a picture of a gallows with "Bart (SS) Stupak" on it and a noose attached. It was captioned, "All Baby Killers come to unseemly ends Either by the hand of man or by the hand of God." The vandalism and threats surprised a researcher at a think tank that monitors extremist groups. "I think it is astounding that we are seeing this wave of vigilantism," said Mark Potok of the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center. In Virginia, someone cut a propane line leading to a grill at the Charlottesville home of U.S. Rep. Tom Perriello's brother after the address was posted online by activists angry about the health care overhaul. Perriello also said a threatening letter was sent to his brother's house. The FBI and local authorities were investigating. Tea party activists had posted the brother's address online thinking it was the congressman's home. The post urged opponents to drop by and "express their thanks" for the Democrat's vote in favor of the sweeping health care reform. Nigel Coleman, chairman of the Danville Tea Party, said he re-posted the comment that originated on another conservative blog, including the address, Monday on his Facebook page. The posts were taken down after the mistake was discovered. "We've never been associated with any violence or any vandalism," he said. "We're definitely sorry that we posted the incorrect address." CONT.

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03-25-2010, 06:14 AM	#2
That One Guy Producer of Nonsense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sun and Beachville Posts: 14,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	One day, when America isn't as nice as it is today, we'll all look back and see how insignificant some of our problems were and how nice we had it.

03-25-2010, 06:23 AM	#3
barryr Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,269 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Who condones such behavior? Crimes should get punished, which is kind of a new thing for liberals I know. But how about we call them "freedom fighters" since that's what most liberals wanted to call the terrorists in Iraq? Strangely, the liberal media didn't have much to say about the kind of violence that the left was up to when doing their anti-war protests across this country. I guess it's ok to do such things depending on what side of the political aisle you reside. Pathetic.

03-25-2010, 07:28 AM	#12
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	People are pissed off that is the only thing that this shows. Can you blame them?