How does it feel to be lied to? - The Orange Mane

crazyhorse · 12-11-2006, 06:34 PM

According to many on this board (me not included), Mike Shanahan never really meant what he said when he stated "I am putting Jay Cutler in because he gives us the best chance to win now". Instead, many are claiming that what he really meant, is that even though the Broncos were in the playoff race, he was pulling the plug on the season, so he can get the rook some practice for next year.

If you are foolish enough to subscibe to this theory, what does that say to vets like Rod Smith?

Who here would want to play for a coach like that? One that asks you to play hard no matter what happens around you. Then yanks the rug on you and quits during a playoff run?

IMO, Shanny meant exacly what he said. He put Cutler in to win now. That only makes him stupid. However, if he was lying to the team that puts it on the line for him, then that makes him a jackass.

Enjoy your waffles.

watermock · 12-11-2006, 06:35 PM

Dumbass...Shahanah never throws a player under the bus. Just make a change.

crazyhorse · 12-11-2006, 06:36 PM

Boy...that was quick.

Gutless.....but quick.

Smiling Assassin27 · 12-11-2006, 06:36 PM

Well, Herm said 'you play to win the game' but it seems that all the Chiefs have been playing for is paychecks...How does it feel to be lied to?

Garcia Bronco · 12-11-2006, 06:36 PM

There are plenty of other threads you can discuss ths on Chief fan

crazyhorse · 12-11-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

There are plenty of other threads you can discuss ths on Chief fan

It has it's own unique question on the matter. This was not a response to another thread. Pretty simple really.

You flinched. How weak.

watermock · 12-11-2006, 06:36 PM

Tell us when your next coach comes to town.

Hotrod · 12-11-2006, 06:36 PM

Blah that was a record yank

PS I dont like waffles

bronco militia · 12-11-2006, 06:36 PM

“I wouldn’t be bitter if they let me go,” perennial Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez told me when the locker room cleared out.......

“But right now, to me, winning is more important (than staying in KC),” Gonzalez said.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16211451.htm

crazyhorse · 12-11-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

“I wouldn’t be bitter if they let me go,” perennial Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez told me when the locker room cleared out.......

“But right now, to me, winning is more important (than staying in KC),” Gonzalez said.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16211451.htm

Yeah....the I know you are but what am I retort....who woulda guessed it?

DomCasual · 12-11-2006, 06:51 PM

Did you watch any of the games Plummer started? Apparently not. Cutler hasn't played any worse than Plummer was playing before he was benched.

crazyhorse · 12-11-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual

Did you watch any of the games Plummer started? Apparently not. Cutler hasn't played any worse than Plummer was playing before he was benched.

He played better against SD than Cutler did. Besides this isn't about Cutlers play. Its about the posters on this board and thier opinion of what Shanahans word means to them.

crazyhorse · 12-11-2006, 06:48 PM

According to many on this board (me not included), Mike Shanahan never really meant what he said when he stated "I am putting Jay Cutler in because he gives us the best chance to win now". Instead, many are claiming that what he really meant, is that even though the Broncos were in the playoff race, he was pulling the plug on the season, so he can get the rook some practice for next year.

If you are foolish enough to subscibe to this theory, what does that say to vets like Rod Smith?

Who here would want to play for a coach like that? One that asks you to play hard no matter what happens around you. Then yanks the rug on you and quits during a playoff run?

IMO, Shanny meant exacly what he said. He put Cutler in to win now. That only makes him stupid. However, if he was lying to the team that puts it on the line for him, then that makes him a jackass.

Enjoy your waffles.

Taco John · 12-11-2006, 06:50 PM

Speaking of waffles, I tried that Creme Brule French Toast recipe this weekend. Very sweet stuff... Good for a weekend where you might want to satisfy a few sweet tooths for breakfast.

crazyhorse · 12-11-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Speaking of waffles, I tried that Creme Brule French Toast recipe this weekend. Very sweet stuff... Good for a weekend where you might want to satisfy a few sweet tooths for breakfast.

It'll make you fat.

Not like a fat lie, but fat just the same.

Ratboy · 12-11-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Speaking of waffles, I tried that Creme Brule French Toast recipe this weekend. Very sweet stuff... Good for a weekend where you might want to satisfy a few sweet tooths for breakfast.

I'm not sure if you read my post about it. It's awesome stuff!

Spider · 12-11-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Speaking of waffles, I tried that Creme Brule French Toast recipe this weekend. Very sweet stuff... Good for a weekend where you might want to satisfy a few sweet tooths for breakfast.

Man we had a oil rig move from Lance Creek Wyoming to Baroil WY , I found 2 great places to eat , and I have been past both places several times never stoped ...........one is 3 sisters truckstop and the other is greasy spoon called Grandmas .............at both places Food is out of this world , except I got shoved out of the buffet line by some old woman at 3 sisters ............The old woman was damn serious about the fried chicken

crazyhorse · 12-11-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

Man we had a oil rig move from Lance Creek Wyoming to Baroil WY , I found 2 great places to eat , and I have been past both places several times never stoped ...........one is 3 sisters truckstop and the other is greasy spoon called Grandmas .............at both places Food is out of this world , except I got shoved out of the buffet line by some old woman at 3 sisters ............The old woman was damn serious about the fried chicken

I once killed a man for his fried chicken. You should have tripped her.

Spider · 12-11-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

I once killed a man for his fried chicken. You should have tripped her.

man I was worried about that fork she was waving around ............ I did leave a 10 spot tip for the waitress though , hard working gal ..........

Clockwork Orange · 12-11-2006, 06:52 PM

Broncos offense under Plummer: 16.2 points per game
Broncos offense under Cutler: 20.0 points per game

Jake Plummer: 1 TD passes per game on average
Jay Cutler: 2 TD passes per game on average

Tell me again how Cutler isn't outperforming Plummer and how he isn't giving them a better chance to win right now. It's high comedy, but then your endless hard on for Shanahan always has been.

crazyhorse · 12-11-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Broncos offense under Plummer: 16.2 points per game
Broncos offense under Cutler: 20.0 points per game

Jake Plummer: 1 TD passes per game on average
Jay Cutler: 2 TD passes per game on average

Tell me again how Cutler isn't outperforming Plummer and how he isn't giving them a better chance to win right now. It's high comedy, but then your endless hard on for Shanahan always has been.

Yeah, Cutlers been great. lol

DomCasual · 12-11-2006, 06:58 PM

You know what I like? Pulled pork sammiches. What's even better is to pile southern-style slaw on them.

I'm just saying it because I had one yesterday, and I haven't been able to stop thinking about it.

Mmmmm.

scorpio · 12-11-2006, 06:59 PM

Shanahan lied and people died!

Goobzilla · 12-11-2006, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual

You know what I like? Pulled pork sammiches. What's even better is to pile southern-style slaw on them.

I'm just saying it because I had one yesterday, and I haven't been able to stop thinking about it.

Mmmmm.

I smoked 4 shoulders last week, pulled pork sammiches for months. WOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Clockwork Orange · 12-11-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Yeah, Cutlers been great. lol

I never said that, though it doesn't surprise me that that's your only comeback when presented with facts.

Cutler is outperforming Plummer, therefore he's giving the Broncos a better chance to win than Plummer did. Herm Edwards must be rubbing off on you since you seem to be mailing in your attempts at smack now that December is here.

12-11-2006, 06:34 PM	#1
crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	How does it feel to be lied to? According to many on this board (me not included), Mike Shanahan never really meant what he said when he stated "I am putting Jay Cutler in because he gives us the best chance to win now". Instead, many are claiming that what he really meant, is that even though the Broncos were in the playoff race, he was pulling the plug on the season, so he can get the rook some practice for next year. If you are foolish enough to subscibe to this theory, what does that say to vets like Rod Smith? Who here would want to play for a coach like that? One that asks you to play hard no matter what happens around you. Then yanks the rug on you and quits during a playoff run? IMO, Shanny meant exacly what he said. He put Cutler in to win now. That only makes him stupid. However, if he was lying to the team that puts it on the line for him, then that makes him a jackass. Enjoy your waffles.

12-11-2006, 06:48 PM	#13
crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	So which is it? According to many on this board (me not included), Mike Shanahan never really meant what he said when he stated "I am putting Jay Cutler in because he gives us the best chance to win now". Instead, many are claiming that what he really meant, is that even though the Broncos were in the playoff race, he was pulling the plug on the season, so he can get the rook some practice for next year. If you are foolish enough to subscibe to this theory, what does that say to vets like Rod Smith? Who here would want to play for a coach like that? One that asks you to play hard no matter what happens around you. Then yanks the rug on you and quits during a playoff run? IMO, Shanny meant exacly what he said. He put Cutler in to win now. That only makes him stupid. However, if he was lying to the team that puts it on the line for him, then that makes him a jackass. Enjoy your waffles.

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12-11-2006, 06:35 PM	#2
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Dumbass...Shahanah never throws a player under the bus. Just make a change.

12-11-2006, 06:36 PM	#3
crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	Boy...that was quick. Gutless.....but quick.

12-11-2006, 06:36 PM	#4
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,980 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Well, Herm said 'you play to win the game' but it seems that all the Chiefs have been playing for is paychecks...How does it feel to be lied to?

12-11-2006, 06:36 PM	#5
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	There are plenty of other threads you can discuss ths on Chief fan

12-11-2006, 06:36 PM	#8
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Blah that was a record yank PS I dont like waffles

12-11-2006, 06:36 PM	#9
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	“I wouldn’t be bitter if they let me go,” perennial Pro Bowl tight end Tony Gonzalez told me when the locker room cleared out....... “But right now, to me, winning is more important (than staying in KC),” Gonzalez said. http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16211451.htm

12-11-2006, 06:51 PM	#11
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,173 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Did you watch any of the games Plummer started? Apparently not. Cutler hasn't played any worse than Plummer was playing before he was benched.

12-11-2006, 06:50 PM	#14
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Speaking of waffles, I tried that Creme Brule French Toast recipe this weekend. Very sweet stuff... Good for a weekend where you might want to satisfy a few sweet tooths for breakfast.

12-11-2006, 06:52 PM	#20
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Broncos offense under Plummer: 16.2 points per game Broncos offense under Cutler: 20.0 points per game Jake Plummer: 1 TD passes per game on average Jay Cutler: 2 TD passes per game on average Tell me again how Cutler isn't outperforming Plummer and how he isn't giving them a better chance to win right now. It's high comedy, but then your endless hard on for Shanahan always has been.

12-11-2006, 06:58 PM	#22
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,173 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	You know what I like? Pulled pork sammiches. What's even better is to pile southern-style slaw on them. I'm just saying it because I had one yesterday, and I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. Mmmmm.

12-11-2006, 06:59 PM	#23
scorpio Cubicle Pimp Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,498	Shanahan lied and people died!