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Old 08-20-2006, 11:04 PM   #1
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Default Something else that bugs me

I know, I already started a thread to complain about hitters showing up pitchers, but I've got something else that's pissing me off. That thing is hitters wearing armor to the plate and leaning into pitches. I watched Lastings Milledge pull that crap twice over the weekend. He wears a huge elbow pad to the plate and he stuck it out intentionally and got plunked once, stuck it out a second time and didn't (though he tried to sell it to the umpire that he did).

When are the league and the umps going to put an end to this crap? The league needs to limit the armor that these guys are allowed to go to the plate with and the umps have the right to deny a hit batsman first base if they determine that he either leaned into one or made no effort to get out of the way. Do your f'n jobs.
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Old 08-20-2006, 11:12 PM   #2
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I know, I already started a thread to complain about hitters showing up pitchers, but I've got something else that's pissing me off. That thing is hitters wearing armor to the plate and leaning into pitches. I watched Lastings Milledge pull that crap twice over the weekend. He wears a huge elbow pad to the plate and he stuck it out intentionally and got plunked once, stuck it out a second time and didn't (though he tried to sell it to the umpire that he did).

When are the league and the umps going to put an end to this crap? The league needs to limit the armor that these guys are allowed to go to the plate with and the umps have the right to deny a hit batsman first base if they determine that he either leaned into one or made no effort to get out of the way. Do your f'n jobs.
Amen. Carl Everett did that **** all the time...
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Old 08-21-2006, 12:29 AM   #3
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Amen. Carl Everett did that **** all the time...
Fernando Vina did it so often that some umpire finally stopped him on the way to first and made him get back in the box.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:31 PM   #4
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I thought that it was actually illegal to wear any unnecessary body armour at the plate. I think it may be one of those things that the umps look the other way on. Like hitters with one foot outside the back of the batter's box.

I think that's another trend much like the pants pulled down over the heel of the shoe...that Barroid is responsible for.

I remember after Bagwell kept getting plunked in the '90's he actually got special permission from the league to wear his armor.
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Guys like Don Baylor and Ron Hunt earned first base with welt marks so deep you could see the stiches from the baseball.

Career Leaders for Hit By Pitch

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Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats 
1. Hughie Jennings+  287 R 
2. Craig Biggio (39) 273 R 
3. Tommy Tucker#  272 B 
4. Don Baylor  267 R 
5. Ron Hunt  243 R 
6. Dan McGann#  230 B 
7. Frank Robinson+  198 R 
8. Jason Kendall (31) 197 R 
9. Minnie Minoso  192 R 
10. Jake Beckley+*  183 L 
11. Andres Galarraga  178 R 
12. Curt Welch  173 R 
13. Kid Elberfeld  165 R 
14. Fernando Vina* (36) 157 L 
15. Brady Anderson*  154 L 
16. Fred Clarke+*  153 L 
17. Chet Lemon  151 R 
18. Carlton Fisk+  143 R 
19. Nellie Fox+*  142 L 
20. Art Fletcher  141 R 

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats 
21. Bill Dahlen  140 R 
22. Carlos Delgado* (33) 139 L 
  Chuck Knoblauch  139 R 
24. Larry Walker*  138 L 
25. Frank Chance+  137 R 
26. Dummy Hoy*  134 L 
  Nap Lajoie+  134 R 
  John McGraw+*  134 L 
29. Steve Brodie*  132 L 
30. Brian Downing  129 R 
  Willie Keeler+*  129 L 
32. Jeff Bagwell (37) 128 R 
33. Honus Wagner+  125 R 
34. Buck Herzog  120 R 
35. Gary Sheffield (36) 118 R 
36. Jimmie Dykes  115 R 
  Damion Easley (35) 115 R 
  Sherm Lollar  115 R 
39. Frankie Crosetti  114 R 
  Bill Freehan  114 R 

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats 
41. Andre Dawson  111 R 
  Steve Evans*  111 L 
  Jason Giambi* (34) 111 L 
44. George Burns  110 R 
45. Sherry Magee  109 R 
46. Bill Joyce*  108 L 
  Mo Vaughn*  108 L 
48. Pete Rose#  107 B 
  Wally Schang#  107 B 
50. Dan Brouthers+*  105 L 
  Jeff Kent (37) 105 R 
52. Derek Jeter (31) 103 R 
  Tris Speaker+*  103 L 
54. Orlando Cepeda+  102 R 
55. Luis Gonzalez* (37) 100 L 
  Henry Larkin  100 R 
57. Elmer Flick+*  99 L 
  Bucky Harris+  99 R 
  Eddie Yost  99 R 
60. Rickey Henderson  98 R 

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats 
  Alex Rodriguez (29) 98 R 
62. Dick Bartell  97 R 
  Mike Macfarlane  97 R 
  Dick Padden  97 R 
65. Gary Gaetti  96 R 
  Reggie Jackson+*  96 L 
67. Ty Cobb+*  94 L 
  Ed Delahanty+  94 R 
  Matt Lawton* (33) 94 L 
  John Reilly  94 R 
  Jake Stahl  94 R 
  John Titus*  94 L 
73. Barry Bonds* (40) 93 L 
74. Jim Delahanty  92 R 
  Doc Gessler*  92 L 
  Jimmy Sheckard*  92 L 
  Lonnie Smith  92 R 
78. Jeff Blauser  91 R 
  Ed Sprague  91 R 
  Gene Tenace  91 R 

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats 
  John Warner*  91 L 
  Chief Zimmer  91 R 
83. Joe Carter  90 R 
  Norm Cash*  90 L 
85. David Eckstein (30) 89 R 
  Jack Fournier*  89 L 
  Mark Grudzielanek (35) 89 R 
  Billy Hamilton+*  89 L 
  Edgar Martinez  89 R 
90. Jose Guillen (29) 88 R 
  John Olerud* (36) 88 L 
  Cesar Tovar  88 R 
93. Bid McPhee+  87 R 
  Rafael Palmeiro* (40) 87 L 
  Devon White#  87 B 
  Eric Young (38) 87 R 
97. Bobby Grich  86 R 
  Cy Williams*  86 L 
99. Boileryard Clarke  85 R 
  Kiki Cuyler+  85 R 

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats 
  Jason LaRue (31) 85 R 
  Arlie Latham  85 R 
  Joe Torre  85 R
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