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Old 07-27-2004, 07:33 AM   #1
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I suggest that you check your Heinz products so you can verify this yourself.


Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened.

However, he is trying to blame it on George W. Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory.

That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerry's own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific. In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases four factories in Europe and four in Asia.

Also, they own 27 factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States.

Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner?

If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor.

Hypocrisy defined.
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Old 07-27-2004, 07:47 AM   #2
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I suggest that you check your Heinz products so you can verify this yourself.


Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened.

However, he is trying to blame it on George W. Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory.

That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerry's own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific. In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases four factories in Europe and four in Asia.

Also, they own 27 factories in North America, some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States.

Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner?

If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor.

Hypocrisy defined.
For clarification, the above never actually discusses Heinz moving factories from the US to foreign countries. Just because Heiz owns foreign factories does not necessarily mean that those factories cost Americans jobs. Ford has plants all over the globe in order to meet worldwide demand in a more efficient manner. I imagine there is pretty widespread demand for catsup as well. Now, if you could point to an example where Heinz moved a specific domestic plant to a foreign country, that would be interesting (and disturbing).

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Old 07-27-2004, 08:44 AM   #3
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For point of clarification, the above never actually discusses Heinz moving factories from the US to foreign countries. Just because Heiz owns foreign factories does not necessarily mean that those factories cost Americans jobs. Ford has plants all over the globe in order to meet worldwide demand in a more efficient manner. I imagine there is pretty widespread demand for catsup as well. Now, if you could point to an example where Heinz moved a specific domestic plant to a foreign country, that would be interesting (and disturbing).
I saw the article and thought the same thing and I looked briefly but couldn't find any good sources.
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Old 07-27-2004, 08:15 AM   #4
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Rascal, you missed that we went over this long ago. Those factories were built in those countries to produce condiments to sell in those countries. Nice try, though. Just keep snapping. Eventually, you might find something to sink your teeth into (The Karl Rove method).
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Rascal, you missed that we went over this long ago. Those factories were built in those countries to produce condiments to sell in those countries. Nice try, though. Just keep snapping. Eventually, you might find something to sink your teeth into (The Karl Rove method).

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I thought you would find the obvious error. Good job.

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Old 07-27-2004, 10:40 AM   #6
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Ah but do these Heinz companies pay the same wages as we do here in the states or what the prevailing wages in those countries are?

Look at Nike receiving flack.. shouldn't Henz and anyother company receive the same grief?
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Ah but do these Heinz companies pay the same wages as we do here in the states or what the prevailing wages in those countries are?

Look at Nike receiving flack.. shouldn't Henz and anyother company receive the same grief?
Does Nike have Factories here ?
Hienz does ?
are you sure you grasp the concept of economic expanision Vs outsourcing ?
then I have to ask , Does Kerry run Hienz ?
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I have no idea. I was just trying to stir things up since it was a rather slow day, and rohirrim and Antilles struck it down
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Does Toyota have factories here?
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