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Old 06-02-2014, 01:00 PM   #1
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Thoughts?

I have no military background, and this thing fascinates me.

It sounds like he deserted.

It sounds like several soldiers died, trying to find him.

It doesn't seem like partisan mud-flinging to say that a five-for-one trade was, at the very least, a questionable decision, based on our public policies on such matters, in the past - and that would be true, even if he was "abducted" under less-questionable circumstances.

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Old 06-02-2014, 01:01 PM   #2
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Good for him getting freed! Now, when's the court martial?
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Old 06-02-2014, 01:08 PM   #3
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I reallly don't know much about this, but my buddies in the service tell me he deserted and that men died trying to find him. If true, he needs to face some consequences.

I'm not sure I like trading suspected terrorists for POW's but I would probably sing a different tune if this was some relative of mine.

Israel has been doing stuff like this for years right?

Its gotta be nice for our servicemen to know we're willing to do this to get them back if they get captured.
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hopefully the Fab 5 have tracking devices....
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As a mother I'm thrilled he was released. Without the traitor business, I don't care about the 5 who were released. With the traitor business I have serious questions about what's going on and how the powers that be didn't know this info. If they did, shame on you.
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As a mother I'm thrilled he was released. Without the traitor business, I don't care about the 5 who were released. With the traitor business I have serious questions about what's going on and how the powers that be didn't know this info. If they did, shame on you.
Do you know the number of people those 5 killed? Those families might have a problem with it. What if one of them is responsible for a future attack killing Americans?

Personally I just feel this is nothing more than a political stunt by Obama and the media to bury the VA disaster. Oh look Obama cares about our soldiers and vets!
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Do you know the number of people those 5 killed? Those families might have a problem with it. What if one of them is responsible for a future attack killing Americans?

Personally I just feel this is nothing more than a political stunt by Obama and the media to bury the VA disaster. Oh look Obama cares about our soldiers and vets!
shes saying the same thing you are without saying...and you too are right...
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shes saying the same thing you are without saying...and you too are right...
Except I didnt say I didnt care about the 5 released whether he's a traitor or not.
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Except I didnt say I didnt care about the 5 released whether he's a traitor or not.
right...I was referring to the Obama stuff...its just nice to know that other people see threw it too..
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As a mother I'm thrilled he was released. Without the traitor business, I don't care about the 5 who were released. With the traitor business I have serious questions about what's going on and how the powers that be didn't know this info. If they did, shame on you.
a smart lady indeed....
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As a mother I'm thrilled he was released. Without the traitor business, I don't care about the 5 who were released.

I'm not a mother (except in the "Shaft" sense of the word) but you have to consider the danger posed to your children by the 5 guys we released.


Reductio ad absurdum: Would you release Charles Manson to get Benedict Arnold?
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I'm not a mother (except in the "Shaft" sense of the word) but you have to consider the danger posed to your children by the 5 guys we released.


Reductio ad absurdum: Would you release Charles Manson to get Benedict Arnold?
I would like to know more about these 5 guys we traded. Is there any info on them floating around out there?
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I would like to know more about these 5 guys we traded. Is there any info on them floating around out there?

'Taliban Dream Team': Who are the 5 prisoners traded for Bergdahl's freedom?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...oner-exchange/
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Thanks for posting.

JFC! I agree this is most likely a PR stunt, but there's a big chance this blows up in Obama's face.

WTF is the WH thinking releasing these clowns for a deserter?
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I'm not a mother (except in the "Shaft" sense of the word) but you have to consider the danger posed to your children by the 5 guys we released.


Reductio ad absurdum: Would you release Charles Manson to get Benedict Arnold?
I do understand. I have had two son's in the military, one still serving. I cannot imagine what his mother has been going through for the past 5 years. But the traitor business does make me question the release and Bergdahl. Still, without those 5 being released I wouldn't feel any safer. I'm sure they were replaced during the time the 5 were locked up.

My concern is that they now know what to bargain with.
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As a mother I'm thrilled he was released. Without the traitor business, I don't care about the 5 who were released. With the traitor business I have serious questions about what's going on and how the powers that be didn't know this info. If they did, shame on you.
I am a father but if my son joined the military, I know what stakes are when he signed up and also if he gets captured. He fights for his country and you, as a parent, need to respect and honor that. Those 5 Taliban are most likely going to try to kill Americans again and that could be my Nephew or even my 11 and 10 year old. There is a reason we normally don't exchange prisoners and you try to reason your post by "without the traitor business, I don't care about the 5 who were released". It isn't that easy as it is part of the equation. Those 5 are killers and probably until they are old or dead unlike a soldier that has a certain years of service before he retires to normal life. I hope we can find them again before they kill more people.
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I am a father but if my son joined the military, I know what stakes are when he signed up and also if he gets captured. He fights for his country and you, as a parent, need to respect and honor that. Those 5 Taliban are most likely going to try to kill Americans again and that could be my Nephew or even my 11 and 10 year old. There is a reason we normally don't exchange prisoners and you try to reason your post by "without the traitor business, I don't care about the 5 who were released". It isn't that easy as it is part of the equation. Those 5 are killers and probably until they are old or dead unlike a soldier that has a certain years of service before he retires to normal life. I hope we can find them again before they kill more people.
Wish there were more people that understood it like you do.
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I am a father but if my son joined the military, I know what stakes are when he signed up and also if he gets captured. He fights for his country and you, as a parent, need to respect and honor that. Those 5 Taliban are most likely going to try to kill Americans again and that could be my Nephew or even my 11 and 10 year old. There is a reason we normally don't exchange prisoners and you try to reason your post by "without the traitor business, I don't care about the 5 who were released". It isn't that easy as it is part of the equation. Those 5 are killers and probably until they are old or dead unlike a soldier that has a certain years of service before he retires to normal life. I hope we can find them again before they kill more people.
Excellent post and I would be willing to bet there are many active soldiers that would be willing to risk or even give their life to kill the five that are to be released.
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Excellent post and I would be willing to bet there are many active soldiers that would be willing to risk or even give their life to kill the five that are to be released.
You're probably right,but who's going to give the order?
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‘God Will Repay’: Did Sgt. Bergdahl’s Dad Delete Disturbing Tweet About Fight to Free Gitmo Prisoners

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Sorry... I've been free for years but then I probably only rank 8th or 9th.. Not knowing all the details I'm pretty sure that these 5 probably have a drone named after them coming to their local theater (in the near future I hope). I imagine that Bergdahl has had a pretty ****ty 5 years in an Afghanistan prison. Like I said, I don't know anything more than what is out on the airwaves. If he is a deserter, we always have Gitmo and it just happens to have a few more open cells to buddy up to his pals.
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I'm pretty sure that these 5 probably have a drone named after them coming to their local theater (in the near future I hope).
You'd have to think so, yeah.

Some people here are acting like the United States is just going to drop them off at the airport and wave goodbye.
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You'd have to think so, yeah.

Some people here are acting like the United States is just going to drop them off at the airport and wave goodbye.
Ya. A Qatar airport with a one year travel ban.


What this does is it shows a captured American can benefit terrorists.

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You'd have to think so, yeah.

Some people here are acting like the United States is just going to drop them off at the airport and wave goodbye.
One of the most strategic US military bases is right there in Qatar. Take a good guess what flys out of that military base!. If you guessed drones,you would be right.
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