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Old 04-02-2014, 07:39 AM   #1
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:40 AM   #2
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Giants are great at coaching up players at the DE position. Watch Ayers break out in a big way with that team.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:47 AM   #4
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How does this affect the 2015 comp picks for us? Eddie Mac?
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:15 AM   #5
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How does this affect the 2015 comp picks for us? Eddie Mac?
It doesn't because we didn't make him an offer.
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It doesn't because we didn't make him an offer.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:21 AM   #7
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It doesn't because we didn't make him an offer.
i dont think this applies? Offers arent even public
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:30 AM   #8
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It doesn't because we didn't make him an offer.
He was unrestricted Kahn so no need to make an offer. Only restricted players that are not tendered do not qualify for comp picks if they sign elsewhere, i.e Holliday.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:54 AM   #11
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This should add another compensatory pick to their arsenal for 2015. What round will of course depend on how much Ayers signed for. I would not be surprised if the Broncos made a move up for a player they want this year using normal 2015 picks, knowing they'll have those comp picks to indemnify against.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:04 AM   #12
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This should add another compensatory pick to their arsenal for 2015. What round will of course depend on how much Ayers signed for. I would not be surprised if the Broncos made a move up for a player they want this year using normal 2015 picks, knowing they'll have those comp picks to indemnify against.
Did cross my mind. Right now 2 4ths for Beadles, DRC, a 6th for Phillips and it really depends on Ayers aav to determine the rd of his pick, if it's more than Moreno $3m pa, it's Moreno we get the pick for (likely a 6th rounder again).
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Did cross my mind. Right now 2 4ths for Beadles, DRC, a 6th for Phillips and it really depends on Ayers aav to determine the rd of his pick, if it's more than Moreno $3m pa, it's Moreno we get the pick for (likely a 6th rounder again).
I've been trying to use AdamJT13's formula to figure out whether Beadles is going to qualify as a 4th or 5th. It's going to be close, and it will make a difference for the Broncos. If he's a 4th (as you're projecting), they get two 4ths and a 6th. If he's a 5th, it's a 4th and two 6ths.

It'll be interesting to see what Ayers's APY will be. By my calculations, it needs to be at least $2.7M to be a clear cut 6th. If it's in between $1.7M and $2.7M it will be a tossup between a 6th and 7th. Not sure if the fact that it's a 2-year makes those chances better or worse.
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:10 PM   #14
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Did cross my mind. Right now 2 4ths for Beadles, DRC, a 6th for Phillips and it really depends on Ayers aav to determine the rd of his pick, if it's more than Moreno $3m pa, it's Moreno we get the pick for (likely a 6th rounder again).
Not sure where you get that.

I would have it as Talib=Decker, Sanders=Woodyard, Ward=Beadles.

While getting picks for DRC, Phillips, Moreno, Ayers.

Still a good haul altogether.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:53 AM   #15
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I feel like some of you would prefer we don't sign FAs because we might lose a 7th round comp pick in two years
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I feel like some of you would prefer we don't sign FAs because we might lose a 7th round comp pick in two years
Take a look at who's left and tell me would you give up a 6th rd pick next year for them.
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Take a look at who's left and tell me would you give up a 6th rd pick next year for them.
A proven NFL player when we're trying to win a super bowl or a guy who probably never sees the light of day two years from now?
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Take a look at who's left and tell me would you give up a 6th rd pick next year for them.
A 6th round pick or what Ayers brings to the team right now?

Yeah, I'd go Ayers all day long.
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A 6th round pick or what Ayers brings to the team right now?

Yeah, I'd go Ayers all day long.
I'm talking about players left on the market that were non-Broncos. Elway is the one who made the decision not to bring these players back.
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:12 AM   #21
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Good for him. Seems like the Giants are taking all our leftovers.
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They don't need to make him an offer
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Wonder if Ayers signing means NYG have already given up on Damontre Moore?
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Ok so basically it's only what the free agent who leaves signs for, but isn't their performance a factor? Like if Decker, Ayers and Holiday go all world, wouldn't that be a factor or it just what they sign elsewhere for?
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Ok so basically it's only what the free agent who leaves signs for, but isn't their performance a factor? Like if Decker, Ayers and Holiday go all world, wouldn't that be a factor or it just what they sign elsewhere for?
Pro Bowls and playing time does factor in, but it's a much smaller factor than the contract amount. It can occasionally make a difference in pick level, though. An example I can see this year is that the Jets probably should have gotten a 5th for Dustin Keller, but because he blew his knee out in the preseason and was IRed the whole year, that appeared to be just enough to push him down to a 6th.
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