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Old 12-12-2013, 01:05 PM   #1
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"Of course, since we created Santa, we can certainly change him however we’d like—and we have, many times over. Like the holiday itself, Santa has long since been extracted from his religious roots, even if the name St. Nicholas still gets thrown around. Our current design takes inspiration from multiple sources, including Washington Irving’s 1809 description of St. Nick “riding jollily among the tree tops, or over the roofs of the houses, now and then drawing forth magnificent presents from his breeches pockets, and dropping them down the chimnies of his favourites.” When Clement Clarke Moore published “A Visit from St. Nicholas” in 1823, the old man was described and illustrated as a “plump” but elfin figure. Since then, Santa has been redesigned and re-appropriated to push everything from soda to war.


So let’s ditch Santa the old white man altogether, and embrace Penguin Claus—who will join the Easter Bunny in the pantheon of friendly, secular visitors from the animal kingdom who come to us as the representatives of ostensibly religious holidays. It’s time to hand over the reins to those deer and let the universally beloved waddling bird warm the hearts of children everywhere, regardless of the color of their skin."


HOUGHTAM PROBABLY AGREES that JOLLY OLD SAINT NICK NEEDS TO DIE AND GO AWAY!!!

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don't worry, the Left has canceled Christmas


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"Of course, since we created Santa, we can certainly change him however we’d like—and we have, many times over. Like the holiday itself, Santa has long since been extracted from his religious roots, even if the name St. Nicholas still gets thrown around. Our current design takes inspiration from multiple sources, including Washington Irving’s 1809 description of St. Nick “riding jollily among the tree tops, or over the roofs of the houses, now and then drawing forth magnificent presents from his breeches pockets, and dropping them down the chimnies of his favourites.” When Clement Clarke Moore published “A Visit from St. Nicholas” in 1823, the old man was described and illustrated as a “plump” but elfin figure. Since then, Santa has been redesigned and re-appropriated to push everything from soda to war.


So let’s ditch Santa the old white man altogether, and embrace Penguin Claus—who will join the Easter Bunny in the pantheon of friendly, secular visitors from the animal kingdom who come to us as the representatives of ostensibly religious holidays. It’s time to hand over the reins to those deer and let the universally beloved waddling bird warm the hearts of children everywhere, regardless of the color of their skin."


HOUGHTAM PROBABLY AGREES that JOLLY OLD SAINT NICK NEEDS TO DIE AND GO AWAY!!!
At first I thought that this was an article from the ONION...but sadly, it's NOT....
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:57 AM   #4
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here's one that will get the right's panties in a wad. jesus was probably not white either.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:44 AM   #5
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here's one that will get the right's panties in a wad. jesus was probably not white either.
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Jesus had "olive" colored skin (most closely similar to a present-day Greek) as they say and that the one we see so often is just a European representation...
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:58 AM   #6
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Not according to this dumb whore.

It's totally, like, a scientifically verifiable fact, like, ohmyGOD!

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come on...Jews aren't white

a little help gaff?

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If you like your Santa Claus being a white man, you'll be able to keep your white Santa, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.
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I'm sure this brings back childhood memories huh HOUGHTAM?
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http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/origin-of-santa/

How did the kindly Christian saint, good Bishop Nicholas, become a roly-poly red-suited American symbol for merry holiday festivity and commercial activity? History tells the tale.

The first Europeans to arrive in the New World brought St. Nicholas. Vikings dedicated their cathedral to him in Greenland. On his first voyage, Columbus named a Haitian port for St. Nicholas on December 6, 1492. In Florida, Spaniards named an early settlement St. Nicholas Ferry, now known as Jacksonville. However, St. Nicholas had a difficult time during the 16th century Protestant Reformation which took a dim view of saints. Even though both reformers and counter-reformers tried to stamp out St. Nicholas-related customs, they had very little long-term success except in England where the religious folk traditions were permanently altered. (It is ironic that fervent Puritan Christians began what turned into a trend to a more secular Christmas observance.) Because the common people so loved St. Nicholas, he survived on the European continent as people continued to place nuts, apples, and sweets in shoes left beside beds, on windowsills, or before the hearth
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That's only part of the story. Contrary to popular opinion, St. Nicholas isn't the sole basis for Santa Claus mythology.

Santa is a combination of St. Nick, Norse and Germanic gods, and other Christmas figures such as Father Christmas/Pere Noel. I suggest you educate yourself in those facts before simply copying and pasting what someone else thinks it is.

So if Santa is already a combination of a bunch of different bits of lore and legend, I have absolutely no problem with anyone ascribing to Santa qualities outside what we in the 21st century feel is tradition. To deny someone that ability is nothing short of hypocrisy, considering someone 1000 years ago would likely be confused or angry over what "our" definition of Santa (reindeer, elves) has become.

Simply put, since "your" Santa is already a bastard, you don't get to complain about the bastardization of "their" Santa.
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the war against white christian heterosexual males enters its final phases.....

Lincoln was really gay, black, muslim vampire killer, doncha know?
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Irish Medieval History


The real Santa Claus is buried in Ireland! St. Nicholas of Myra was originally buried in his home town but knightly relic hunters removed the remains first to southern Italy and then on to Ireland where a church was built and dedicated to the saint at Newtown, Jerpoint, Co. Kilkenny. (Now in ruins)*

Santa means saint and ultimately derives from the Latin word Sanctus. Claus is an abbreviation of Nicholas comes into English from French Nicolas, from Latin Nicholaus, Nicolaus, from Greek Nikholaos, literally “victory-people”, from Nike “victory” + laos “people”.

Born to wealthy parents Nicholas/Nikolaos was brought up in Myra, Lycia which is now Demre in modern-day Turkey but at that time was under Greek Christian influence. He later became bishop of Myra and that is as far as reliable history goes.

The legend goes that he was one of many bishops to answer the request of Constantine and appear at the First Council of Nicaea in 325AD and was said to be one of the bishops who signed the Nicene Creed.

His wealthy parents died in an epidemic while Nicholas was still young and he was raised by his uncle (also named Nicholas) who was the bishop of Patara. He tonsured the young Nicholas as a reader and later ordained him a presbyter (priest).

Nicholas was revered for his extraordinary generosity leaving anonymous gifts and was made a saint shortly after his death.

One story tells of a poor peasant with three daughters, who could not afford the dowry for his three daughters and he was being forced to sell them into slavery. As he began to despair, on three separate nights as they came of age, bags of gold appeared in his home, seemingly tossed through a window or down the chimney as they slept, landing in shoes left by the fire. The story inspired the tradition of children leaving out their stockings to be filled by Santa Claus.

The veneration of saints was discouraged by protestant churches after the reformation and this led to him being renamed Father Christmas but St. Nicholas or the name Santa Claus proved almost impossible to kill off.

Philip Lynch, a historian and chairman of Callan Heritage Society in Co. Kilkenny, claims there is evidence to suggest that a French family who settled in Ireland shortly after 1169 were responsible for moving his remains. He believes that the crusading family, called the de Frainets, exhumed the tomb after they were routed by their enemies, and brought the content to southern Italy, which was then under Norman control.

When they were subsequently forced out of Italy by the Genoese, the remains were entrusted to relatives in Nice, who moved them to family lands in Kilkenny for safe keeping. Nicholas de Frainet built a dedicated church at Newtown where St Nicholas’s remains were then interred in 1200.


http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-26591841.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/ch...n-Ireland.html



*Earlier we stated in error that the remains were at Cistercian Abbey at Jerpoint but the actual location is the Church of St. Nicholas a short distance away from the Cistercian Abbey."



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Even in TURKEY Santa Claus is W-H-I-T-E
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Even in Turkey?? WTF does that mean??
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"Born to wealthy parents Nicholas/Nikolaos was brought up in Myra, Lycia which is now Demre in modern-day Turkey but at that time was under Greek Christian influence. He later became bishop of Myra and that is as far as reliable history goes."

In bold for you, you self hating, illiterate troll..........Cue all of the " Santa wasn't white, he was likely BROWN cuz he was born in TURKEY!"

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Even in TURKEY Santa Claus is W-H-I-T-E
Even in your world Santa is white.



I'll let you in on a little secret. Santa's not a real person. Santa can be whatever means the most to a family during Christmas since he's "make-believe." This thread is a funny example of your fear that somebody won't believe the same as you. Even when it comes to fairy tales. Merry Christmas!
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I'll let you in on a little secret. Santa's not a real person. Santa can be whatever means the most to a family during Christmas since he's "make-believe." This thread is a funny example of your fear that somebody won't believe the same as you. Even when it comes to fairy tales. Merry Christmas!
No, this thread is about ONCE marginalized opinions gaining mainstream support and traction due largely to people like you who stand for N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Salutations you spineless puke.
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Heya txteturd...

What color is Jesus?
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