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Old 11-25-2013, 11:18 PM   #1
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Default I am very encouraged by last night's performance going forward into the playoffs.

I get that we lost, it sucks but last night the way we ran the football that was awesome, they were stacking the box and we still ran it down their throats at times. Knowshon is a stud hands down.

Von Miller hes baaaaaaaaaaaaack, just re-watch the game dude was amazing. I don't think we got to worry about him going forward.

We did what we needed to do in the cold weather, the only thing we did wrong was let them get back in the game but you have to be encouraged by the run game.

Passing game wasn't there like we wanted, but we all know this was an anomaly.

We will be fine . we will likely go 14-2 and get the #1 seed. Pessimistic ***** go somewhere else this thread is about the Broncos bouncing back because they are the best team in the NFL hands down.

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Old 11-25-2013, 11:24 PM   #2
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Agree completely. Good post.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:25 PM   #3
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I'd also like to point out that, in a sense, getting that early lead was bad for us. Our game plan on offense went out the window and suddenly it was almost as if the team didn't quite know what to do. One of the flukiest games I can remember.
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I'd also like to point out that, in a sense, getting that early lead was bad for us. Our game plan on offense went out the window and suddenly it was almost as if the team didn't quite know what to do. One of the flukiest games I can remember.
This has been the case with us not only during the twoi Manning years but in prior years as well. In particular though the last three JDR games the issue has been even more extreme.

WE play best went we straggly a little in the first half and are other tied. have a very small lead or are behind at half. Then the sense of urgency combined with half time adjustments kicks in and we have kicked arse in the second half.

With JDR in charge, we look like a much better version of his old Jaqs .. they had stout defenses but used their offense just to try to grab a two or three score lead if possible ( rarely for the Jags) and when that happens the last three games we go into the prevent defense and offense mode, more or less and try to run out the clock and slow down the attrition in the lead hopefully still being ahead at the end.

Against most teams and not in crazy cold and windy conditions, that strategy will still work with this team and Manning. But against Brady and Belicheck its still not enough.

You have to keep scoring and playing to win the entire game against Brady. That JDR and the coaches apparently didn't realize that is ridiculous!
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I'd like to know what Peyton's stats are while wearing gloves. My feeling is that they can't be too great.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:38 PM   #6
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I'd like to know what Peyton's stats are while wearing gloves. My feeling is that they can't be too great.
he wears a glove a lot now....don't think its the glove more so the 20 mph winds.

he wore gloves last week he did just fine.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:06 AM   #7
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I'd like to know what Peyton's stats are while wearing gloves. My feeling is that they can't be too great.
As a Bronco, there are only 5 games I can think of where he has worn a glove on his throwing hand for the entire game. These are the stats for those games:
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:08 AM   #8
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As a Bronco, there are only 5 games I can think of where he has worn a glove on his throwing hand for the entire game. These are the stats for those games:
So pretty much nothing to do with his gloves.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:16 AM   #9
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Thanks.

It looks like as far as passing, there isn't really anything that can be picked out that is off. However, his fumbles are way up. His career average for the season before coming to Denver is 4.38 per season. In two games with the gloves, he's at 3 fumbles.

However, it's hard to blame the gloves on that, though... Here's the most shocking stat of all - Peyton has fumbled a career high 10 times this season, losing a career high of 6. The most he's ever lost in a season is 3.

Fumbles aside, the trendline on the completion percentage is a little disturbing. It's a downwards slope. Whether it means anything in the grand scheme of things, who knows... but a trend is a trend.

That game was bothersome, because it was clearly Peyton's worst game as a Bronco, and that's not the team we want our guy to have his worst game against.

I'm inclined to believe that the problems are less about the gloves and more about what's happening between his ears that game. And as far as his record fumbles go... Any way we slice that one, that's a bad stat.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:11 AM   #10
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It looks like as far as passing, there isn't really anything that can be picked out that is off. However, his fumbles are way up. His career average for the season before coming to Denver is 4.38 per season. In two games with the gloves, he's at 3 fumbles.

However, it's hard to blame the gloves on that, though... Here's the most shocking stat of all - Peyton has fumbled a career high 10 times this season, losing a career high of 6. The most he's ever lost in a season is 3.

Fumbles aside, the trendline on the completion percentage is a little disturbing. It's a downwards slope. Whether it means anything in the grand scheme of things, who knows... but a trend is a trend.

That game was bothersome, because it was clearly Peyton's worst game as a Bronco, and that's not the team we want our guy to have his worst game against.

I'm inclined to believe that the problems are less about the gloves and more about what's happening between his ears that game. And as far as his record fumbles go... Any way we slice that one, that's a bad stat.
The fumble stat makes me seriously wonder about the strength of his grip.
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The fumble stat makes me seriously wonder about the strength of his grip.
How many were while he was about to throw the ball?

QB's routinely fumble more than other players because they get blindsided
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As a Bronco, there are only 5 games I can think of where he has worn a glove on his throwing hand for the entire game. These are the stats for those games:
Tampa Bay game was on there and he had one of his best games.
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Tampa Bay game was on there and he had one of his best games.
If he wore a glove in the TB game lat year, it wasn't for the entire game. Just looking at some highlights of that game, and I don't see the glove at all.
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I'd like to know what Peyton's stats are while wearing gloves. My feeling is that they can't be too great.
What about his stats when wearing tagless underwear? or when he drinks orange gatorade versues yellow gatorade?
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What about his stats when wearing tagless underwear? or when he drinks orange gatorade versues yellow gatorade?
Peyton's underwear don't touch the football every single play. Not really sure why you'd feel validated denying the question without even looking at the data. I mean, I can be as big a homer as the next guy, but I at least want to see the data...
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I'd like to know what Peyton's stats are while wearing gloves. My feeling is that they can't be too great.
He's played some great games wearing them. I believe last year against the chiefs/browns he did. He threw some beautiful passes those games. Even in the Ravens game, he threw amazing passes...that TD to stoke was a thing of beauty. The gloves are fine.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:23 AM   #17
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We lost by 3 to New England in Overtime, in Foxboro...

Would anyone think the sky was falling BEFORE the game happened, if they found that out? Doubt it.
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We lost by 3 to New England in Overtime, in Foxboro...

Would anyone think the sky was falling BEFORE the game happened, if they found that out? Doubt it.
no, they woulkd not. Only the people who watched the game and saw how we scored, how we surrendered points and how uninspiring PFMs performance was would referance a falling sky.
Only those who actually watched the game and looked into PFM's face would be concerned.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:25 AM   #19
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I just want to remind people that the Pats were without Wilfork, Kelly and Mayo. Running it at them is not going to be the same as running against some of these other teams. It was an awesome performance, but we need to be realistic too.
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I just want to remind people that the Pats were without Wilfork, Kelly and Mayo. Running it at them is not going to be the same as running against some of these other teams. It was an awesome performance, but we need to be realistic too.
200+ rushing yards against a division leading team, in their house, is good.

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Old 11-26-2013, 01:39 AM   #21
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"I am very encouraged by the performance of the Titanic last night. Up until it sank, it was completely unsinkable."


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A 3pt loss to New England, in Foxboro, is that really THE TITANIC SINKING?
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To Mennonite? Yeah.

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Old 11-26-2013, 09:55 AM   #24
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So you are saying the season is sunk and over? I guess we won't be seeing you around anymore.
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The Broncos Offense has proven it can't score more than 14 points in sub freezing temps and playoff conditions. How that it's encouraging to anybody is quite peculiar to say the least.
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