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Old 11-25-2013, 08:11 PM   #1
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:53 PM   #2
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I have said for a couple years now they are one dimensional on D.

Hali and Houston are guys who have to rush the passer 1st to make any sort of impact in the game. Houston has been marginally better at setting the edge now that they are in a 3-4 and he can line up wide enough to push down into the back filed but he cannot get off a block to make a play in the run game when he does get the edge set. Hali is a poor man's Dummerville and despite his bigger frame is weak when run at as well. Neither have proved to persue backside. When a kFc DL did make a play from the back side in the SD game everyone was excited because they are not used to seeing it like we do with our guys, even Knighton is better at running down plays than anyone on kFc's DL.

They said on NFL Insiders that Houston had so much swelling in his elbow that he could not straighten his arm out to do the MRI.

Hali's Ankle was said to be minor, they think he will be game a time decision.

I think at least one of them are active and they use at least one of them on a couple desperation blitz's early trying to keep the crowd in the game. A 3rd straight loss would lose their fairweather fan base.

I just hope we have a RB who can spell KM and keep that even weaker pass rush at the LOS and give Manning time to take apart Cooper and Flowers.
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Old 11-25-2013, 09:13 PM   #3
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I have said for a couple years now they are one dimensional on D.

Hali and Houston are guys who have to rush the passer 1st to make any sort of impact in the game. Houston has been marginally better at setting the edge now that they are in a 3-4 and he can line up wide enough to push down into the back filed but he cannot get off a block to make a play in the run game when he does get the edge set. Hali is a poor man's Dummerville and despite his bigger frame is weak when run at as well. Neither have proved to persue backside. When a kFc DL did make a play from the back side in the SD game everyone was excited because they are not used to seeing it like we do with our guys, even Knighton is better at running down plays than anyone on kFc's DL.

They said on NFL Insiders that Houston had so much swelling in his elbow that he could not straighten his arm out to do the MRI.

Hali's Ankle was said to be minor, they think he will be game a time decision.

I think at least one of them are active and they use at least one of them on a couple desperation blitz's early trying to keep the crowd in the game. A 3rd straight loss would lose their fairweather fan base.

I just hope we have a RB who can spell KM and keep that even weaker pass rush at the LOS and give Manning time to take apart Cooper and Flowers.
Lol you know nothing about our team. But keep going. It's hilarious watching you try.
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Lol you know nothing about our team. But keep going. It's hilarious watching you try.
You know nothing about our team. And yet you log in to our website and lay down stupidity. Feel free to keep going as you've looked hilarious this whole time.
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Lol you know nothing about our team. But keep going. It's hilarious watching you try.
how many points would the Chargers have scored on the 2000 Ravens or 1985 Bears?
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Old 11-25-2013, 10:26 PM   #6
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Lol you know nothing about our team. But keep going. It's hilarious watching you try.
Wow....4800 posts on an opposing teams forum...some people got too much time on their hands and exist for no other reason but to be a pain in the arse.
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:11 PM   #7
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Wow....4800 posts on an opposing teams forum...some people got too much time on their hands and exist for no other reason but to be a pain in the arse.

Its the second one as I have pointed out over and OVER.

Even when you beat them he won't shut up.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:05 PM   #8
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Wow....4800 posts on an opposing teams forum...some people got too much time on their hands and exist for no other reason but to be a pain in the arse.
I've been here a year longer, spend WAY too much time on this site, and still have fewer posts than he does. How the **** does he have that much time to waste on an OPPOSING team's forum.
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I've been here a year longer, spend WAY too much time on this site, and still have fewer posts than he does. How the **** does he have that much time to waste on an OPPOSING team's forum.
Quoted for the truth. I'll never understand why fans sign up at opposing teams forums just to talk shiz. It defies reason for the most part....
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Old 11-28-2013, 05:46 PM   #10
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Wow....4800 posts on an opposing teams forum...some people got too much time on their hands and exist for no other reason but to be a pain in the arse.
What else does a KFC fan have to live for?

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What else does a KFC fan have to live for?

Rebuliding the distributor for their Camero?

Growing out the party part of their Mullet?
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Lol you know nothing about our team. But keep going. It's hilarious watching you try.
No need to learn. You said they were as good as 2000 Ravens.
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No need to learn. You said they were as good as 2000 Ravens.
The 2000 Ravens gave up a lot of 40 point games...
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He knows enough to be a Broncos fan instead of a Chiefs fan
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His act is getting old. I knew the minute the Pats took the lead he would crawl out from under his rock to Troll and he didn't let me down. Then there is the "Congrats on winning your SB" crap. Time to get a new schtick this one is old.
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His act is getting old. I knew the minute the Pats took the lead he would crawl out from under his rock to Troll and he didn't let me down. Then there is the "Congrats on winning your SB" crap. Time to get a new schtick this one is old.
I wish we were monkeys so I could throw feces at him
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His act is getting old. I knew the minute the Pats took the lead he would crawl out from under his rock to Troll and he didn't let me down. Then there is the "Congrats on winning your SB" crap. Time to get a new schtick this one is old.
This is priceless coming from you as you have had the same material for years
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I'd say they're right, we have two big-time DEs out, and DeVito too, so yeah, we're hurting big time... If Hali can play, he might cause you some problems, but I'm not sure if he's not 100% that his impact can't be neutralized.

It's going to be a long day for us I'm thinking...
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I'd say they're right, we have two big-time DEs out, and DeVito too, so yeah, we're hurting big time... If Hali can play, he might cause you some problems, but I'm not sure if he's not 100% that his impact can't be neutralized.

It's going to be a long day for us I'm thinking...
It might help your cause with Hali hobbling out there and Houston out. Your DC will have to send more blitz's earlier and more often rather than sit back and hope a 3 or 4 man rush can get there.

Manning might be able to pick it apart but you guys might get more hits on him and force him into a bad throw or 2. After all your going to need your D to score to stay in this one.
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The Chiefs whole D is predicated on the pass rush... With that gone, they become just average, which isn't bad.

What's interesting is 38 points on offense.... That's impressive, all things considered.
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Hell I'd rather just put an extra big DB in place of those 2 and play with 6 DB's on the field at all times.

That's what RAC did to Manning and it worked all those years. Belichik did a lot of that the other night as well.
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One thing I also noticed from the KC - Chargers game was that when Hali and Houston were out, Poe seemed average again. Not a huge knock, because that kid made a bigger jump this year than I expected, but it does show the kind of "synergy" that happens when 1-2 gamebreakers are in the lineup. We obviously missed Von (and Elvis) as a disruptive force in the passing game the first few weeks.

I expect that we will push Poe around a little more this week than we did last game.
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One thing I also noticed from the KC - Chargers game was that when Hali and Houston were out, Poe seemed average again. Not a huge knock, because that kid made a bigger jump this year than I expected, but it does show the kind of "synergy" that happens when 1-2 gamebreakers are in the lineup. We obviously missed Von (and Elvis) as a disruptive force in the passing game the first few weeks.

I expect that we will push Poe around a little more this week than we did last game.
Yeah, Poe had a big rookie year. came out how and is starting to faid.. although still pretty good against the run.
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The Chiefs whole D is predicated on the pass rush... With that gone, they become just average, which isn't bad.

What's interesting is 38 points on offense.... That's impressive, all things considered.
The Chargers defense is flat out garbage. I'm not surprised that even the Chiefs were able to light them up.
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The Chargers defense is flat out garbage. I'm not surprised that even the Chiefs were able to light them up.
chargers defense actually held denver to only 1 more point then a 100% healthy Chiefs defense did.
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