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Old 11-04-2013, 12:12 PM   #1
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Default So Let's Say You Are a NFL Defensive Coordinator....

Who would be more terrifying to play against on Offense:

2013 Denver Broncos @ SAF

2013 New England Patriots @ Gillette

After watching Brady curb Stomp the Steelers yesterday, I have to say, Brady looked almost flawless and was tossing Bullets.

Of course Manning is a game maestro and we have seen it all season sans one game in Indy.

Records aside, who is the better Offense and why?
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:13 PM   #2
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The bigger question is what's the weather like.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:52 PM   #3
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The bigger question is what's the weather like.
That is a good point, but all things equal Denver is a giant problem. Who do you cover? Double DT or Decker and Welker and JT are killing you over the middle. Put extra coverage in the middle and DT and Decker eat your DBs lunch all day long. Add in we can run just well enough that it has to be respected.
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Who would be more terrifying to play against on Offense:

2013 Denver Broncos @ SAF

2013 New England Patriots @ Gillette

After watching Brady curb Stomp the Steelers yesterday, I have to say, Brady looked almost flawless and was tossing Bullets.

Of course Manning is a game maestro and we have seen it all season sans one game in Indy.

Records aside, who is the better Offense and why?
What's SAF?
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What's SAF?
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:36 PM   #7
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Wow I never realized Manning is only one year older that Brady
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Wow I never realized Manning is only one year older that Brady
That's because he is not one year older, good sir! He is one year, four months, and nine days older!
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Wow I never realized Manning is only one year older that Brady
and less then two months older then me
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Oh...he means Mile High. Never heard anyone refer to it as SAF in writing and never hear anyome call it Sports Authority outside of the media.
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Oh...he means Mile High. Never heard anyone refer to it as SAF in writing and never hear anyome call it Sports Authority outside of the media.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:23 PM   #12
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:52 PM   #13
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:14 PM   #14
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that name should be changed not Redskin.
It's much better than a bankrupt financial company that sounds like what a typical Chiefs family might do in the bedroom...
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:18 PM   #15
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Pats will be tough come playoffs but the oline has real problems at RT. Miller may be able to get around that end. Pats will do a lot of max protect and just throw it to Gronk. Gotta put the double team on that TE if you want to have a shot.
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The Squealers are old and terrible.

I wouldn't put too much weight in yesterday's game.

Denver has way more weapons and is scoring a lot with an "in progress" running game.
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The Squealers are old and terrible.

I wouldn't put too much weight in yesterday's game.

Denver has way more weapons and is scoring a lot with an "in progress" running game.

this ^

I think at this point my AZ Cards would make the Steelers _efense look bad as well.
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I think at this point my AZ Cards would make the Steelers _efense look bad as well.
It was almost painful, and funny (at the same time), to watch Polamalu try to chase people down...
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I'm assuming that average includes yesterday's game. I feel that the points they scored, yesterday, will be an outlier. Even with that anomaly, Denver is STILL averaging almost double that of New England...
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Regular season, Peyton is scarier ....
Post-season, Brady is.

Sorry, but ....
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:33 AM   #22
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Regular season, Peyton is scarier ....
Post-season, Brady is.

Sorry, but ....
I'll just leave this here:

In playoff games decided by a kick (i.e game was won or lost on a FG in the last 5 minutes or OT):

Manning (0-5) - QB rating: 91.1
Brady (6-0) - QB rating: 73.8

Each and every time Manning put his team in position to win, his kicker missed. Each and every time his opponent put themselves in position to win, their kicker converted.

Each and every time Brady put his team in position to win, his kicker converted. Each and every time his opponent put themselves in position to win, his kicker missed.

If Brady had equal luck with playoff kicking game as Manning, he would have a 9-9 playoff record with one SB win (2004), one SB loss (2007), and no other championship game appearances.

The difference in playoff perception between Manning and Brady was written by Mike Vanderjagt, Nate Kaeding, Adam Vinateri, Nick Folk, Stephen Gotskowski, Justin Tucker, and Billy Cundiff.
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I'll just leave this here:

In playoff games decided by a kick (i.e game was won or lost on a FG in the last 5 minutes or OT):

Manning (0-5) - QB rating: 91.1
Brady (6-0) - QB rating: 73.8

Each and every time Manning put his team in position to win, his kicker missed. Each and every time his opponent put themselves in position to win, their kicker converted.

Each and every time Brady put his team in position to win, his kicker converted. Each and every time his opponent put themselves in position to win, his kicker missed.

If Brady had equal luck with playoff kicking game as Manning, he would have a 9-9 playoff record with one SB win (2004), one SB loss (2007), and no other championship game appearances.

The difference in playoff perception between Manning and Brady was written by Mike Vanderjagt, Nate Kaeding, Adam Vinateri, Nick Folk, Stephen Gotskowski, Justin Tucker, and Billy Cundiff.
Very interesting. Where do you guys find these obscure stats? I am amazed with the stuff some of you come up with.
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I'll just leave this here:

In playoff games decided by a kick (i.e game was won or lost on a FG in the last 5 minutes or OT):

Manning (0-5) - QB rating: 91.1
Brady (6-0) - QB rating: 73.8

Each and every time Manning put his team in position to win, his kicker missed. Each and every time his opponent put themselves in position to win, their kicker converted.

Each and every time Brady put his team in position to win, his kicker converted. Each and every time his opponent put themselves in position to win, his kicker missed.



If Brady had equal luck with playoff kicking game as Manning, he would have a 9-9 playoff record with one SB win (2004), one SB loss (2007), and no other championship game appearances.

The difference in playoff perception between Manning and Brady was written by Mike Vanderjagt, Nate Kaeding, Adam Vinateri, Nick Folk, Stephen Gotskowski, Justin Tucker, and Billy Cundiff.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:21 AM   #25
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I'll just leave this here:

In playoff games decided by a kick (i.e game was won or lost on a FG in the last 5 minutes or OT):

Manning (0-5) - QB rating: 91.1
Brady (6-0) - QB rating: 73.8

Each and every time Manning put his team in position to win, his kicker missed. Each and every time his opponent put themselves in position to win, their kicker converted.

Each and every time Brady put his team in position to win, his kicker converted. Each and every time his opponent put themselves in position to win, his kicker missed.

If Brady had equal luck with playoff kicking game as Manning, he would have a 9-9 playoff record with one SB win (2004), one SB loss (2007), and no other championship game appearances.

The difference in playoff perception between Manning and Brady was written by Mike Vanderjagt, Nate Kaeding, Adam Vinateri, Nick Folk, Stephen Gotskowski, Justin Tucker, and Billy Cundiff.
Exactly....

In 1999 he was beaten by Titans who had a pretty good defense, and an offense led by Steve McNair, and Eddie George 19-16

In 2000 he lost to Dolphins 23-17 in OT...Vanderjagt missed GW FG in OT...hardly Peyton's fault wouldn't you agree?

in 2002 he got spanked by Jets 41-0...it was his lone egg he laid in the playoffs statistically speaking.

In 2003 he spanked Denver 41-10, then beat Chiefs 38-31 and lost AFCCG to Brady and Pats 24-14

In 2004 he spanked us (again) 49-24, and lost to Brady and Pats again 20-3

In 2005 he got beat by Steelers and Big Ben 21-18 as Vanderjagt again missed a clutch FG that would've sent game to OT.

In 2006 he beat KC and Baltimore then beat Bears to win SB

In 2007 and 2008 seasons saw him lose to a pretty damn good Chargers team led by pro bowl QB Phillips Rivers and HoF RB LaDainian Tomlinson....in the first one he lost 23-17 in OT as the Chargers won toss, took ball and drove down the field...hardly Peyton's fault wouldn't you agree?

In 2009 he beat the Ravens and the very much improved Jets to win AFC title...lost to Saints and probable HoF Drew Brees in SB.

In 2010 he got beat by the Jets, this time 17-16 after the Colt's ST's gave up big return, and defense gave up huge completion to Edwards, then Jets kick GW with no time left...again, hardly Peyton's fault, wouldn't you agree?

In 2012 against the Ravens he had the Broncos set up with a 7 point lead despite Prater kicking dirt instead of the ball, and loses in a double OT loss by a FG (albeit set up by a Manning INT)

eventual conference or SB champs

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