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Old 10-01-2013, 05:06 AM   #1
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I love to go back & read old threads to refresh my memory on what some OM ppl thought of the potential for a Manning signing... Remember when you said this:

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Not gonna happen, wouldnt want it to.
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I'll bet anyone a year long OM ban that Peyton does not end up in Denver.
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There is no way that Manning is going to be signed to a reasonable contract conductive with the enormous risk connected to his neck injury and his age. There is going to be some desperate team that loses out on the RGIII sweepstakes and throws a ton of money at him. Denver's not going to be that team. Bring in an inexpensive veteran QB or two and maybe draft a late round project. Let Tebow go into camp and start in 2012. If he sucks, you draft his replacement in 2013.
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38 year-old broke neck QB. Pass.
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I don't see Peyton wanting to play for Fox and McCoy. If the Broncos wanted Peyton they should have went after Jim Caldwell for OC.
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I don't think Peyton respects John Elway enough to get killed behind our offensive line.
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I'm not down with forking over $20 million, killing off most of our FA options and building around an offense that we'd have to abandon in 2 years just for a spot in the playoffs. We already had that.
And I don't see Manning being the answer to overcoming the Patriots, at least not for the Broncos, so I don't like our chances of taking it any further.
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Can't believe we have people here who actually believe this is possible.
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I'm for it if Tebow hangs around.
Seeing as that won't happen I'm off the train. Bringing in a 36 year old with SERIOUS health issues and dumping your possible future is one of the dumbest things I could think off. What happens when Manning goes down week 1...
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This move is a complete failure unless they win the Superbowl.
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If Manning were worth a damn the Colts would have kept him. They're committed to rebuilding without him. We should be too.
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It is a short term fix that financially straps the club when it comes to addressing the multiple areas of need we have. If we were one player away from being a sb team I would think differently but we're not and Manning is old and brittle. Franklin might just get him killed blocking the way he did last year.
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can't believe we have clowns on here that think signing Manning would be a good thing for a team that only recently accepted the fact that they needed to rebuild via the draft to fill positional holes all over the roster and to add much needed depth.
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we're not talking about 30 year old Manning in his prime without injury.
we're talking about 36 year old Manning, who wants a ton of money, who missed all of last season, had multiple neck surgeries, and still can't even throw the ball with any velocity.
if we were talking about the 30 year version, i wouldn't say a word. but we're not. we're talking about the 36 year old version that is damaged goods. that's why i'm trying to convince you it's a bad idea. since you can't be convinced, i will stop. if Elway figures out a way to do this, it will come at a very high cost and will not end well. mark my words. i'll pull up this thread in 3 or 4 year's time and rub your nose in it, just like i would a puppy who pooped on the living room carpet.
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according to Dave Logan, rumors are that Manning and his agent are looking for a 3-year deal, $45M of GUARANTEED money, with NO injury clause.
does anyone believe for a moment that Bowlen could or would do that deal? seriously? anybody??
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Elway really doesn't have much tact or guile, does he? it's been one misstep after another from him since he got the job. maybe Bowlen ought to look up Tommy Maddox and see if he'd be interested in being groomed for a FO job...
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That neck is going to be a $20 million gamble for somebody. I rather it not be us.
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I laugh at the people thinking Manning is in the bag. You guys know lick about contenders/pretenders. The only way he comes here is if we outbid the rest teams...by a lot. Say what you want about MIA...they maybe one of the most dysfunctional FO in the league...but there team is a QB and a WR away from contending.
Through all the talk...it now looks like WAS is not a strong option as previously thought. SEA and ARI look like another strong option. Depending on the amount of money we throw at him I would say we would be his 4 or 5th option.
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Maybe, maybe not.
Either way, John doesn't have the bank to write $20 million checks. I'm not even sure Bowlen does. And to do so with no performance metrics or even a proper workout?
I can only hope our FO isn't that dumb. They do know Peyton just signed a fat new guaranteed-money contract right before bailing on last season... don't they?
Burn me once...
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You got it wrong dude.. IF Elway pulls the trigger on manning I will laugh my ass off for years. He will become the Michael Jordan of NFL executives..
Manning won't last a week behind the Broncos line. The run game and defense will disappear without Tebow and you will see this team for what it really is.
Tebow will go to another team with a real coach and will show how great he really use and how horribly under utilized he was in Denver...
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True, I would be surprised to see Manning sign with the Broncos unless it was just for the money. They are not a Super Bowl team even if had a healthy Manning of 4 years ago much less now. They would also have to trade Tebow since that move would signal no confidence in him and maybe have to anyway if just trying to pursue Manning.
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I'll go ahead and call this one for everybody -- the Broncos don't end up with Manning, and we end concluding in hindsight that this whole thing was botched from a PR standpoint.

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Old 10-01-2013, 05:11 AM   #2
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Dude, it's not like I didn't want him. I just didn't think it was likely. So I was wrong. Going to guess it wasn't the first time I was wrong and probably won't be the last.
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Old 10-01-2013, 05:11 AM   #3
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I was CERTAIN he was going to Arizona or Tennessee.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:15 AM   #4
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I was CERTAIN he was going to Arizona or Tennessee.
Honestly I thought he was going to SF for sure. In my mind there was no way he was coming to Denver, but when I heard I was like holy **** - we've got Peyton Fing Manning as our QB.
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I was CERTAIN he was going to Arizona or Tennessee.
I didn't realize you were such a Teboner and you said a bunch of irrational nonsense about signing Manning. I got a chuckle out of these.

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-Cute post but its true.

- He plays a very different style of QB
- the style has proven very effective

If he can improve in each area of his game like most young QBs do, he's certainly capable of chaning the way the game is played.

-Each one of those teams has dramatically superior supporting casts on offense, defense AND special teams...

-And Im ****ing FINE with Manning (dont think hes coming here, but fine with it).

My problem is were still not doing jack or dick to improve a talent bereft football that, quite frankly, sucks dick at nearly every roster spot.


-I would say developing a complete roster with depth and talent and developing your own football players is what it takes to achieve greatness in this league.

Not 36 year olds with neck issues and a **** roster of retreads that wouldnt start elsewhere.

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Old 10-01-2013, 10:49 AM   #6
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I didn't realize you were such a Teboner and you said a bunch of irrational nonsense about signing Manning. I got a chuckle out of these.
I STILL love Tebow. I'm just sick of arguing about it.

And all of that was true when it was posted. We've made enormous strides to our supporting cast since, most notably with Jack Del Rio... we weren't so hot with that **** bag Dennis Allen calling the shots.

Arizona had a better defense, Fitzgerald to throw to, weather, and Peyton straight up Whisenhunt that he wanted to play there when he got off the plane.

Tennessee had Chris Johnson (pre falling flat on his face), a defense similar to ours, an owner offering Peyton an ownership stake, and a shot at the Colts 2x a year.

Pretty obvious what San Fran was bringing to the table.

So, okay, bump that one where I reiterate I was fine with signing Manning because he's Manning. I have a hundred other posts calling him the GOAT before he was a Bronco and when we were courting him.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:00 AM   #7
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I STILL love Tebow.
Hopefully not as a QB
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:04 AM   #8
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Hopefully not as a QB
Not as a conventional QB. Never did.

As a QB in the general sense? Absolutely.

Also economically speaking it's full blown madness: This is quite literally the only instance I can ever remember where there is a massive market for something and firms go out of their way not to supply it to households.

It's not Tim teams are shying away from. It's the circus that comes with it.
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I STILL love Tebow. Peyton straight up Whisenhunt that he wanted to play there when he got off the plane..
Peyton was never serious about signing with the Cardinals. He felt obligated to visiting them and stayed in Glendale for a few hours but tossed them aside pretty early in the process. AZ's OL was awful and over the cap by a long ways. You also mentioned that Denver's roster was full of garbage players and Denver's OL was awful. It's pretty clear the 20 mil spent on Manning was a hell of a lot better than Hakim Nicks, Carr, and Coefield. We all say dumb stuff it's okay REV.
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Peyton was never serious about signing with the Cardinals. He felt obligated to visiting them and stayed in Glendale for a few hours but tossed them aside pretty early in the process. AZ's OL was awful and over the cap by a long ways. You also mentioned that Denver's roster was full of garbage players and Denver's OL was awful. It's pretty clear the 20 mil spent on Manning was a hell of a lot better than Hakim Nicks, Carr, and Coefield. We all say dumb stuff it's okay REV.
Pretty crazy to get that impression from "I want to play here"

And Denver's OL was awful... Franklin was a rookie making rookie mistakes, Beadles was awful that season, has Walton even played a snap since? Clady and Kuper were the only good players on it that season.

And what does Hakim Nicks have to do with anything?
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:34 AM   #11
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I'm sure the attendance would increase but if It would increase that much I would've expected a bigger turn out to their tebow rally. There was more media members than jags fans there.
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I thought he was & would be coming to Denver, but then the night before we signed him Shannon Sharpe tweeted that he heard the deal was done with Tennessee & I was heartbroken, then he signed w/ the Broncos

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Old 10-01-2013, 06:07 AM   #13
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Nice work on digging out that many posts!

Miss I's post is pretty harmless, but the ones I LOVE are when people got all uppity thinking Manning was a greedy schmuck, looking for a massive payday!
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I had a feeling the entire time he was gonna end up in Denver. I thought he would appreciate the more stable organization. But if. Would have laid money down at first it would have been Arizona.
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I certainly thought at the time that it was too big a risk to sign Manning and (oh god feels dirty now) I was totally onboard with the Tebow train after that Pitt game. Even after signing Manning, I thought it would be good for Teebs to learn under the Elway/Manning operation. oh well.

Also, it seemed TEN had the inside track towards the end.

Being wrong never felt so good.
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:20 AM   #16
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The KO5k and BroncoBeavis guys werent actually Bronco fans, just Tebow cult members who pretended to be
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Oh the joys of being a fan and nothing more of a team. As if the call outs and I told you so's make you any smarter with the ongoings of the NFL and it's players.

This is about as bad as the "I told you coverage sacks would increase" thread.
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Oh the joys of being a fan and nothing more of a team. As if the call outs and I told you so's make you any smarter with the ongoings of the NFL and it's players.

This is about as bad as the "I told you coverage sacks would increase" thread.

well I've posted some dumb stuff myself... like not wanting to draft Von Miller... (well maybe that wasn't so dumb now considering his status in the drug program)


btw who is this Gort dude? and did Dedhed get his 1 year ban?

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well the purpose was not to "call out" anyone.
But that is exactly what you're doing whether you intended to or not.

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I've posted some dumb stuff myself... like not wanting to draft Von Miller... (well maybe that wasn't so dumb now considering his status in the drug program)

Hey I didn't think we could get Manning, and in the very beginning, I really didn't want Denver to go after him. I wanted Tebow to get a full year to prove himself. There was no guarantee that we could even get Manning nor was there one were he would be 100% after everything. Was I glad when we did get Manning? Well yes. Am I glad now? Double hell yeah. Does all of that make me a stupid fan because I didn't say I wanted Manning from the very beginning? Well no. It just makes me a fan.
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But that is exactly what you're doing whether you intended to or not.
wrong all I did was re-post comments that have already been posted, not once did I comment on their comments and really IMO if you didn't want Manning you deserve to be called out, so if the shoe fits..

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did Dedhed get his 1 year ban?
There has to bet someone has to be willing to pony up for the flip side in order to lose a bet. No one did.
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I didn't think we could land him. Oh the horror of me thinking that. I must not be a true fan. The shame............the shame.
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I didn't think we could land him. Oh the horror of me thinking that. I must not be a true fan. The shame............the shame.
It's one thing to have an opinion like yours....but the vast majority of those who had doubts were pretty obnoxious in their defense of their opinions and attacked those who had differing opinions.

Go back and read the entire thread and during the time Manning was mulling over his options, this board saw many venomous attacks by Tebow supporters, and Manning haters......we had people calling the Broncos classless for possibly signing Manning and trading Tebow....we had people basically burning their "fan" cards, we had people claiming it would set the Broncos back, we had people blasting Elway, Fox, DT, Decker, Moreno, the OL, and Manning....the very people who are setting NFL records for making opposing teams lick Fido's ass.

Having a differing opinion isn't what makes them bad fans...it was the total trashing of the team, FO, and two of the NFL's greatest QB's while supporting a one hit wonder who is now out of the league less than two seasons after being traded that gives them that distinction
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