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Old 09-17-2013, 02:11 AM   #1
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I've watched two different groups of talking heads today on NFL network & also ESPN talking about some of the things that Denver has overcome so far.

Obviously Miller is the key talking point. Much is made how Denvers D will only get better when he returns & how they've managed to go on without him so far.

Interestingly enough Champ being out wasn't mentioned ONCE in all three segments. Not one talking head even acknowledged that our future HOF CB has been out.

Just struck me as odd how invisible Champ seems to have become as of late.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:13 AM   #2
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That just gives you an idea about how well the secondary played in his absence. Elway, Fox and Del Rio have done an excellent job identifying and growing talent.
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I'm interested to see his level of play when he gets back.

His days of being elite are behind him sadly, but he's still been tremendous the last few years. If he hasn't declined significantly then were looking like we have a tremendous starting trio of corners (the third CB is basically a starter these days)

Nice balance too, as each of the three has quite a different skillset.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:42 AM   #4
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The last impression Bailey left was getting torched repeatedly by Torrey Smith in the playoffs.

Your young CBs are pretty damn good. Honestly, I thiink Denver's defense is better with them starting.
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The last impression Bailey left was getting torched repeatedly by Torrey Smith in the playoffs.

Your young CBs are pretty damn good. Honestly, I thiink Denver's defense is better with them starting.
We'll see. I could certainly see a scenario where if his injuries have caused a further decline in speed and change of direction that JDR will start using him as more of a Big Nickel and to take advantage of his outstanding tackling ability in space. Maybe start using him to bring pressure from the edge in exotic blitz packages. I think we're all curious to see how he recovers.
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Old 09-17-2013, 03:42 AM   #6
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:02 AM   #7
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Meh. Harris got beat by Cruz for 51 yards on the Giants' first play from scrimmage on Sunday and nobody's writing him off. It happens. Yes, Champ had a tough day against the Ravens. But he was very good the whole season.
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:30 AM   #8
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Meh. Harris got beat by Cruz for 51 yards on the Giants' first play from scrimmage on Sunday and nobody's writing him off. It happens. Yes, Champ had a tough day against the Ravens. But he was very good the whole season.

Freaking A right.............lets get rid of Harris too.

The people that don't deserve any respect are are those calling for us to cut Champ.......everybody has a bad day once in a while.

Grant you his came at a bad time but it happens.

He isn't done and is still better than all but 4-5 corners in this league.

Years ago a-holes proclaimed him done after a bad game against Bowe............next time out he shut BOWE out.


Some of you need to check yourselves before typing........
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:37 AM   #9
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The people that don't deserve any respect are are those calling for us to cut Champ.....
Who's done that?
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why should taking heads respect champ when his own ****ing fan base does nothing but talk **** about him?
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:17 AM   #11
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why should taking heads respect champ when his own ****ing fan base does nothing but talk **** about him?
if he didn't choke on caulk in this biggest game of his life/career there wouldn't be any shiz to talk about. Great players rise to the occasion not fall flat like an underdone cake.
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if he didn't choke on caulk in this biggest game of his life/career there wouldn't be any shiz to talk about. Great players rise to the occasion not fall flat like an underdone cake.
I would say that he didn't choke in the biggest game of his life.

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Old 09-17-2013, 04:56 AM   #14
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It's sad that so called fans of the team would dump on Bailey, even if you do believe he's done. Show some ****ing respect rmsanger, you dismal spacker.

Boltaneer, it'll be interesting to see how Champ looks when he gets back compared to Carter, who while promising still gets picked on. I still think Champ can play at a pretty good level, just so long as he doesn't get matched up against speedsters who he just can't stay with. I expect that'll be DRC's job from here on.

Nice that we're not pinning our hopes on him though.
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Old 09-17-2013, 05:27 AM   #15
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Champ is still our best CB, he just had one bad game last year.
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Champ is still our best CB, he just had one bad game last year.

I am not sure your first point is still true. I do agree with the last, though. He had one bad game, but almost every other Bronco except for Holiday did too.
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I am not sure your first point is still true. I do agree with the last, though. He had one bad game, but almost every other Bronco except for Holiday did too.
Agreed. Not sure why so many people get upset by some pointing out that Champ is not the best CB in the league anymore, or that we MIGHT be just as good with the younger faster replacements.

Nobody is saying that they don't love Champ, or that he wasn't the greatest ever for a long time.....just that he's no longer what he was.

I guess we can call them "Champboners". Not quite the same ring as Tebowner, but you get my point.

Jesus.....I swear some would say you're "disrespecting" Champ if you still didn't want him starting at the age of 50.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:55 AM   #18
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I am not sure your first point is still true. I do agree with the last, though. He had one bad game, but almost every other Bronco except for Holiday did too.
In terms of skill and veteran savvyness, Champ is still the best. In terms of raw speed and ability to cover big, fast WR's w/o safety help, that goes to DRC.

I think Champs days as a shutdown corner are over - no more closing down 1/2 of the field single-handed. Thats ok though, because he still has some damn fine skills and is clearly an asset.
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Old 09-17-2013, 06:58 AM   #19
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I think Champs days as a shutdown corner are over - no more closing down 1/2 of the field single-handed.
You disrespectful bastard!! Where's the love?!?! Champ is the greatest....errrr was.....errr IS the greatest ever!! Nurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
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In terms of skill and veteran savvyness, Champ is still the best. In terms of raw speed and ability to cover big, fast WR's w/o safety help, that goes to DRC.

I think Champs days as a shutdown corner are over - no more closing down 1/2 of the field single-handed. Thats ok though, because he still has some damn fine skills and is clearly an asset.
What exactly is "skill" if it's not "raw speed and ability to cover big, fast WR's w/o safety help"?
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What exactly is "skill" if it's not "raw speed and ability to cover big, fast WR's w/o safety help"?
route recognition, setting up receivers and bait QB's, body control, ball skills, ability to quickly change direction (as opposed to straight line speed), hand-fighting, tackling, leadership, etc.

you know, the little stuff. The kind of stuff you learn after lining up against the NFL's best for the past decade.
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Old 09-17-2013, 05:44 AM   #22
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Champ was great overall last year. I have no problem with him earning his respect when he comes back. He will.
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Old 09-17-2013, 05:46 AM   #23
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champ -- didn't deliver in playoffs.
I hope he is clutch this time and wins SB for himself and for the fans.
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Old 09-17-2013, 05:54 AM   #24
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Nothing but love for 24...

I think we're pretty lucky. Not bad depth we have these days...

DCR was tough against the G-Men...
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One thing I will say after seeing that second GIF again - I am glad Mike Adams isnt starting at safety anymore.
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