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Old 08-24-2013, 09:11 PM   #1
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Good game. We still had some things to iron out, but you saw a peek at the awesome potential. Here's what I came away thinking about.
  • As catostrophic as Hillman's fumbles have been, I do believe he'll develop into a playmaker for this team. I just don't know if feature back is his forte. His size makes it easy to stand him up and he isn't strong enough to resist the strip attempts when he runs inside.
  • Ogletree is a really impressive player. Kudos to the rams for getting a real dynamic linebacker.
  • Our special teams tackling is starting to bother me.
  • Ryan Clady looks like best left tackle in football. If you didn't notice how powerful he was in really every aspect, just look at what happened to our offense when he left for precautionary reasons after the first quarter.
  • Zane Beadles is back to his hot and cold ways. He missed a couple of blocks and needs to finish when he gets up-field. It's preseason so he can iron that out.
  • Julius Thomas is probably not going to be that awesome. He may develop into a starter, but until he can block more consistently and get his route running down, he'll need to grow before he can reach his potential.
  • We miss Dumervil. The pressure was more consistent last year with him playing. But it wasn't all bad.
  • Malik Jackson has really stepped up and is taking his opportunity to get more playing time while Wolfe recovers. He'll continue to grow and will be contributor this season.
  • Woodyard is so much a better of a player than DJ Williams, it's not even close. I really look forward to him enjoying a larger role this season.
  • I don't understand why Nate Irving doesn't get more time and other people keep getting reps ahead of him. It's not like Terry Pearce (Pierce?) where he never did anything in preseason either. Irving is making plays.
  • Lerentee McCree won't clear waivers. And even trying to hide him on the fourth team won't work because he'll keep making plays late in games and people will see. We aren't deep enough at linebacker, and enough teams are thin enough elsewhere, where you can cut him and expect to land him on the PS.
  • Rogers-Cromartie looked good. With him, Champ, Harris and Carter, we will have enough help when all are healthy to still have a serviceable defense even during Von's suspension.
  • Peyton Manning is awesome. The rapidity of the offense was amazing.
  • Britton Colquitt is awesome.
  • Keep an eye on Kayvon Webster. He's going to hang in this league.
  • I'm glad they let Osweiller and the line get more reps in the second half. Osweiller needs the time with the ones so he can play on a unit that isn't awful and the line needs as much time as possible.
  • Best news of the night: No major injuries.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:17 PM   #2
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Offense ran 49 plays for 290 yards in the first half

Talk about up tempo offense. need to close because only 2 TDs out of 12 drives this preseason for the offense
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Offense ran 49 plays for 290 yards in the first half

Talk about up tempo offense. need to close because only 2 TDs out of 12 drives this preseason for the offense
30 plays in the 1st quarter - 30 plays!

In the red zone we are seeing a lot of running in the preseason, I believe this is because Gase is reluctant to use his red zone passing plays so teams can't prepare for them. My feeling is that in the regular season we would see different play calling inside the 20, including more pass plays.
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30 plays in the 1st quarter - 30 plays!

In the red zone we are seeing a lot of running in the preseason, I believe this is because Gase is reluctant to use his red zone passing plays so teams can't prepare for them. My feeling is that in the regular season we would see different play calling inside the 20, including more pass plays.
Agreed. While the tempo is higher the play calls are pretty vanilla. We haven't gone very deep into the playbook
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Offense ran 49 plays for 290 yards in the first half

Talk about up tempo offense. need to close because only 2 TDs out of 12 drives this preseason for the offense
Yeah, id take this with a grain of salt and chalk it up to sample size. The offense is moving pretty dang well.
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Anyone still worried about Gase being a first time OC? I know its only preseason, but he is delivering on his promise to go "uptempo". Once they clean up the TO's, this offense will be a tough match up for any defense.
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Anyone still worried about Gase being a first time OC? I know its only preseason, but he is delivering on his promise to go "uptempo". Once they clean up the TO's, this offense will be a tough match up for any defense.
Was anyone ever worried about it to begin with?
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Was anyone ever worried about it to begin with?
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Anyone still worried about Gase being a first time OC? I know its only preseason, but he is delivering on his promise to go "uptempo". Once they clean up the TO's, this offense will be a tough match up for any defense.
Gase is not the OC. Peyton does whatever he wants, doesn't even look to the sideline. Any failings or success can be planted right at Mannings feet.
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Yeah, id take this with a grain of salt and chalk it up to sample size. The offense is moving pretty dang well.
Let's hope so because it looks like game planning this defense without Von is something a high school coach can do well

I have a sick feeling we are going to see several 30 burgers put up by the opposing teams the first 6 weeks
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Offense ran 49 plays for 290 yards in the first half

Talk about up tempo offense. need to close because only 2 TDs out of 12 drives this preseason for the offense
All this without Welker.
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Offense ran 49 plays for 290 yards in the first half

Talk about up tempo offense. need to close because only 2 TDs out of 12 drives this preseason for the offense
I believe the fruits of the tempo will be found later in the game (second half) during the regular season. A defense stuck on the field that long will simply be worn out.
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Hillman's trying to win the job and he's running wilder because of it. Last year in the playoff game he looked like a robot he was so scared of losing the ball. During the season he will probably temper down the wild running style.
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Good game. We still had some things to iron out, but you saw a peek at the awesome potential. Here's what I came away thinking about.
  • Our special teams tackling is starting to bother me.
  • Julius Thomas is probably not going to be that awesome. He may develop into a starter, but until he can block more consistently and get his route running down, he'll need to grow before he can reach his potential.
  • We miss Dumervil. The pressure was more consistent last year with him playing. But it wasn't all bad.
  • Malik Jackson has really stepped up and is taking his opportunity to get more playing time while Wolfe recovers. He'll continue to grow and will be contributor this season.
  • Keep an eye on Kayvon Webster. He's going to hang in this league.
Special teams definitely need to step up big time - on the 2nd punt return by Austin (he didn't break it but got damn close), our gunners were 10-15 yards wide of him and nobody had gotten in front of him. The blocking in that blocked field goal attempt was pathetic, Julius Thomas had 2 guys on him.

Julius Thomas looks good and then bad. You can tell he just doesn't have the experience and his route running is definitely lacking. He had a couple of good blocks but also some really bad ones.

The pass rush is definitely not impressive, it is okay, but in the base 4 man rush we just don't consistently enough press pocket.

Malik Jackson is going to be a very solid rotation player at DE/DT. He has good quickness and surprising power for a guy his size.

Webster will be a starter next season - doesn't matter if we resign DRC, doesn't matter if Champ doesn't retire and doesn't want to move to FS, Webster will start.
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Special teams definitely need to step up big time - on the 2nd punt return by Austin (he didn't break it but got damn close), our gunners were 10-15 yards wide of him and nobody had gotten in front of him. The blocking in that blocked field goal attempt was pathetic, Julius Thomas had 2 guys on him.

Julius Thomas looks good and then bad. You can tell he just doesn't have the experience and his route running is definitely lacking. He had a couple of good blocks but also some really bad ones.

The pass rush is definitely not impressive, it is okay, but in the base 4 man rush we just don't consistently enough press pocket.

Malik Jackson is going to be a very solid rotation player at DE/DT. He has good quickness and surprising power for a guy his size.

Webster will be a starter next season - doesn't matter if we resign DRC, doesn't matter if Champ doesn't retire and doesn't want to move to FS, Webster will start.

He's had a really good preseason so far. Always around the ball, making his presence known. He keeps this up, I may have to agree with you. Kid can ball
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He's had a really good preseason so far. Always around the ball, making his presence known. He keeps this up, I may have to agree with you. Kid can ball
He can play, he is a big guy with some wheels on him who can tackle. He is probably never going to be confused with Champ or Revis in their respective primes, but he has the look of a very serviceable future starter to me.
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Webster will be a starter next season - doesn't matter if we resign DRC, doesn't matter if Champ doesn't retire and doesn't want to move to FS, Webster will start.
I must have missed all of Webster's plays. I only remember one. Way too early. Too me if he was an undrafted FA he is a bubble player looking at the practice squad. Being drafted in the 3rd round of course he makes it.

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Montee Ball was very impressive IMO. Looks more comfortable in the ZBS and is showing to be the north south runner we've been looking for. Still has much to prove, but I wouldn't bet against him at this point.

Having Clady back, made a world of a difference on the line

Wasn't a great showing for Julius, but I can see him having an impact on Sundays. Very athletic, which makes him a match up nightmare for defenses. Especially when Welker returns.

No major injuries, and depending on Bailey and Wolfe, looks like we'll be full strength for the Balt opener. Offense will be 100%. These guys may be unstoppable in that game
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Montee Ball was very impressive IMO. Looks more comfortable in the ZBS and is showing to be the north south runner we've been looking for. Still has much to prove, but I wouldn't bet against him at this point.

Having Clady back, made a world of a difference on the line

Wasn't a great showing for Julius, but I can see him having an impact on Sundays. Very athletic, which makes him a match up nightmare for defenses. Especially when Welker returns.

No major injuries, and depending on Bailey and Wolfe, looks like we'll be full strength for the Balt opener. Offense will be 100%. These guys may be unstoppable in that game
ZBS? Ive read we aren't going to use much of the ZBS. I seen a lot of running between the tackles... more power run then anything.. anyone can confirm or deny this?
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ZBS? Ive read we aren't going to use much of the ZBS. I seen a lot of running between the tackles... more power run then anything.. anyone can confirm or deny this?
dude, we've been running zone schemes all preseason.
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dude, we've been running zone schemes all preseason.
He doesn't know what a zone run is. I suspect he is confusing zone run with a stretch run.
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Montee Ball was very impressive IMO. Looks more comfortable in the ZBS and is showing to be the north south runner we've been looking for. Still has much to prove, but I wouldn't bet against him at this point.

Having Clady back, made a world of a difference on the line

Wasn't a great showing for Julius, but I can see him having an impact on Sundays. Very athletic, which makes him a match up nightmare for defenses. Especially when Welker returns.

No major injuries, and depending on Bailey and Wolfe, looks like we'll be full strength for the Balt opener. Offense will be 100%. These guys may be unstoppable in that game
Julius might not be "awesome," but considering he had 7 catches in essentially a game (from PM over the last two), 50 catches and a handful of TD's isn't out of the realm of possibility (assume he gets the PT). I assume when Dreesen comes back, he'll flank out more like Tamme did last year. I'll take that from him. He's just going to improve.

'm sure his blocking won't suck forever. Even Sharpe improved in this area.

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I agree on Montee. His run style is patient and doesn't lend itself to taking big hits.
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I agree on Montee. His run style is patient and doesn't lend itself to taking big hits.
Montee's TD made me stand up out of my recliner tonight. We need a guy that can drag guys into the end-zone. In the regular season, I have to think that he will be the goal line guy, whether he is the "starter' or not.
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I didn't see what you saw with McCree, I think I noted one good play from him.

I thought Steven Johnson (#53) showed well for himself. Looked like he was getting snaps as WLB with Lenon in the middle. He showed good play diagnosis and was involved on most of his reps.

I agree that Irving looks good, but only insofar as he's playing SAM. His run diagnosis is great, but he looks lost anytime he's asked to drop back. In my mind, he has no future at MLB, he's a run support SAM only and STer. But I think he can be solid in that capacity.

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