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Old 08-13-2013, 12:22 AM   #1
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"Kupe and I have talked about this several times all that matters for him right now is he gets healthy," Broncos coach John Fox said.

Kuper is not expected to be cleared to practice until next week, and then only on a limited basis. The hope is Kuper can test his ankle in the fourth and final preseason game Aug. 29 against Arizona.

Until then, the Broncos have to start setting their salary-capped payroll. What is certain is Kuper won't play this season on the $4.5 million salary he is scheduled to make under his current contract. That's fair money for a player who started 78 games the previous six seasons but too steep for a guard who because of injury is not expected to start this season, at least not right away.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...m-restructures

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Old 08-13-2013, 12:23 AM   #2
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There's been a lot of talk of cutting his big contract but I'd much rather have them restructure to a reasonable deal and keep him as depth. If he's healthy he may even be an upgrade over beadles.
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Old 08-13-2013, 12:53 AM   #3
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There's been a lot of talk of cutting his big contract but I'd much rather have them restructure to a reasonable deal and keep him as depth. If he's healthy he may even be an upgrade over beadles.
if we end up cutting him because we can't afford the deal after paying our punter a hundred million dollars I'll be pretty mad.
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if we end up cutting him because we can't afford the deal after paying our punter a hundred million dollars I'll be pretty mad.
The best punter in the NFL is more valuable than some broke down ustabe starter. Kuper has to re-sign if he gets cut then has to rehabilitate and find a new team he will probably get league minimium.
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if we end up cutting him because we can't afford the deal after paying our punter a hundred million dollars I'll be pretty mad.
I know, the nerve of the team paying a productive starter!
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if we end up cutting him because we can't afford the deal after paying our punter a hundred million dollars I'll be pretty mad.
Kuper is pretty broken down and I have my doubts if he can play at a high level again. Paycut or hit the road for Kuper. I have no problem giving a Punter some dough because they have a big effect on the game.
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Kuper is pretty broken down and I have my doubts if he can play at a high level again. Paycut or hit the road for Kuper. I have no problem giving a Punter some dough because they have a big effect on the game.
I agree that punters have a big effect on a game.

But it just doesn't seem right that Welker is only making a million more per year than our PUNTER.....did I say P U N T E R ?!?!

If you assume our offense will be good enough this year that our punting unit might see the field 4 times per game......and each of those plays takes about 10-15 seconds of game clock......the punter is on the field for ONE MINUTE of game time.

Punters and kickers are the highest paid players PER AMOUNT OF TIME PLAYED of any player on the field......by a very long shot.
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I agree that punters have a big effect on a game.

But it just doesn't seem right that Welker is only making a million more per year than our PUNTER.....did I say P U N T E R ?!?!

If you assume our offense will be good enough this year that our punting unit might see the field 4 times per game......and each of those plays takes about 10-15 seconds of game clock......the punter is on the field for ONE MINUTE of game time.

Punters and kickers are the highest paid players PER AMOUNT OF TIME PLAYED of any player on the field......by a very long shot.
Isn't Welker getting 12 mil over 2 years and the P getting 13.something over 4 years?
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I agree that punters have a big effect on a game.

But it just doesn't seem right that Welker is only making a million more per year than our PUNTER.....did I say P U N T E R ?!?!

If you assume our offense will be good enough this year that our punting unit might see the field 4 times per game......and each of those plays takes about 10-15 seconds of game clock......the punter is on the field for ONE MINUTE of game time.

Punters and kickers are the highest paid players PER AMOUNT OF TIME PLAYED of any player on the field......by a very long shot.
Yeah this isn't true at all.
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I hope they work something out, it'd be a shame to lose him entirely.

It depends on Kuper's priorities, I suppose. If he really wants to make a go of things in Denver I expect the two sides will find a common ground. He might prefer to get cut and then test the FA market though, couldn't blame him for that in all honesty.
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Well now my post seems redundant.

Great news, hope he can get healthy again.
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if we end up cutting him because we can't afford the deal after paying our punter a hundred million dollars I'll be pretty mad.
Apparently you don't remember the times when we had to scuffle through Micah Knorr,Jason Baker & etc. I do, if you have to cut Kuper lose to pay Colquitt then you do it!

That said, I doubt he gets cut as he'll likely restructure and try to build his value back for later on.
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if we end up cutting him because we can't afford the deal after paying our punter a hundred million dollars I'll be pretty mad.
Colquitt is healthy and is one of the best punters in the league and is the franchise career leader (minimum 100 punts) in gross (46.1) and net (39.5) yards per punt.

Kuper is a good player, but struggles to stay healthy.....which makes him more expendable and less valuable to the franchise.
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Broncos agree to terms on restructured contract with guard chris kuper

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/367282573245816832
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Salary goes from 4.5 mil non-guarantee to 1.05 mil guaranteed. Another 1.7 mil in play time bonuses. Chris kuper next step is recovery

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/367283322193330176
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Salary goes from 4.5 mil non-guarantee to 1.05 mil guaranteed. Another 1.7 mil in play time bonuses. Chris kuper next step is recovery

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/367283322193330176
Makes sense, glad Kupe is remaining a Bronco.
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Salary goes from 4.5 mil non-guarantee to 1.05 mil guaranteed. Another 1.7 mil in play time bonuses. Chris kuper next step is recovery

https://twitter.com/MikeKlis/status/367283322193330176
I like the decency and fair play displayed in the Broncos contracts under the Elway regime. This will not go unnoticed by the players around the league. All the contracts appear to be realistic and fair to both sides.

Nice touch to change Kupes deal from all non guaranteed to guaranteeing 1 mil + playing time bonus' and the reduction is fair to both sides.

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I like the decency and fair play displayed in the Broncos contracts under the Elway regime. This will not go unnoticed by the players around the league. All the contracts appear to be realistic and fair to both sides.

Nice touch to change Kupes deal from all non guaranteed to guaranteeing 1 mil + playing time bonus' and the reduction is fair to both sides.
I agree somewhat, really Denver played this out to avoid an injury settlement and it played out in their favor. They played chicken, Kupe ended up with pretty much no option.

Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing anyone...it was smart business. Just saying, it's probably not a real "feel good" story. In any case, glad he is staying, awesome depth.
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I agree somewhat, really Denver played this out to avoid an injury settlement and it played out in their favor. They played chicken, Kupe ended up with pretty much no option.

Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing anyone...it was smart business. Just saying, it's probably not a real "feel good" story. In any case, glad he is staying, awesome depth.
I don't understand. The Broncos are giving Kupe a chance to recover and play again that seems like that would be what Kupe wants. You can't keep paying a guy 5 mil that is on the sidelines. I bet this is what Kupe wanted rather than an injury settlement. If there is a question mark here it would be letting he come back before he was completely healed but maybe there was no way to analyze that.
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I don't understand. The Broncos are giving Kupe a chance to recover and play again that seems like that would be what Kupe wants. You can't keep paying a guy 5 mil that is on the sidelines. I bet this is what Kupe wanted rather than an injury settlement. If there is a question mark here it would be letting he come back before he was completely healed but maybe there was no way to analyze that.
Absolutely, I agree with this. What I am saying is, Denver (as any smart business would do) capitalized on it so it's not really something that I imagine Kupe deep down is thrilled with but he realistically had no viable option otherwise. Honestly if it weren't for the injury settlement factor, he probably would have been cut.

I agree fully though that the FO has done a great job about being fair to both sides and smart about these things.
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I don't understand. The Broncos are giving Kupe a chance to recover and play again that seems like that would be what Kupe wants. You can't keep paying a guy 5 mil that is on the sidelines. I bet this is what Kupe wanted rather than an injury settlement. If there is a question mark here it would be letting he come back before he was completely healed but maybe there was no way to analyze that.
Obviously he wants to be fair to the team as long as he has the option to compete. We are happy that this is behind him and he can remain a Denver Bronco. When he is healthy he is definitely better than anyone he is competing against. All I know is someone in the Broncos FO recognized that they are better with him than without. Now all of the haters can close their pieholes and b**** about someone else's salary. Thanks to all of you guys that have supported him over the last 20 months. And a HUGE kiss me, and tell me that you love me to those that haven't.

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I agree somewhat, really Denver played this out to avoid an injury settlement and it played out in their favor. They played chicken, Kupe ended up with pretty much no option.

Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing anyone...it was smart business. Just saying, it's probably not a real "feel good" story. In any case, glad he is staying, awesome depth.

You don't pay a injured guy top dollar money when you don't know the final end game of his recovery....................

A lot of teams would prob tried to jettison him.

Broncos were fair on this deal..........
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You don't pay a injured guy top dollar money when you don't know the final end game of his recovery....................

A lot of teams would prob tried to jettison him.

Broncos were fair on this deal..........
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I agree somewhat, really Denver played this out to avoid an injury settlement and it played out in their favor. They played chicken, Kupe ended up with pretty much no option.

Don't get me wrong, I am not bashing anyone...it was smart business. Just saying, it's probably not a real "feel good" story. In any case, glad he is staying, awesome depth.
Yep, Broncos get some cap money savings for this year, gives Kuper a chance to fully recover and take back his starting job and if he can't then he is (sadly) gone next year.

Love this move by the FO doesn't save us money to sign anyone next year but it makes sense for this year and Kuper gets a little more guarenteed money while he gets to rehab.
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I like the decency and fair play displayed in the Broncos contracts under the Elway regime. This will not go unnoticed by the players around the league. All the contracts appear to be realistic and fair to both sides.

Nice touch to change Kupes deal from all non guaranteed to guaranteeing 1 mil + playing time bonus' and the reduction is fair to both sides.

Exactly and the same goes for the Dumerville offer.

Elway is a smart GM. Hard to believe he may end as good

a GM as a QB.................

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