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Old 08-07-2013, 10:51 AM   #1
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I'm always fascinated by the behind the scene stuff from players. This is an excerpt from his memoir on his time in training camp with Mangini and his time with Shanahan.

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Every team has its different routines. Often the most difficult part of being on a new team is getting adjusted to the way they do things. The team takes on the personality of its head coach, and every coach is different. In this case, it is Eric Mangini. I had heard a good deal about Coach Mangini from a few of my teammates in Denver. We would sit around the table in the cafeteria and talk shop, and several times I heard tales of Mangini's evil. New York, while he was coaching the Jets, was hell. No, not hell. Worse. Three-and- a- half- hour practices. Busted bodies. Jangled nerves. Cussing. Yelling. Tension. Belittling. Football, the game, was nearly unrecognizable under Mangini's demented eye. Hell was no match for it.

But surely the stories were overblown. Their color was more vibrant because of the contrast. They were being told in the peaceful valley of Shanahan: the heaven to Mangini's hell. Mike Shanahan knew how to run a team. That meant he knew how to treat the men on it. Being a head football coach is not about being a strategic genius.
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:14 AM   #2
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I'm always fascinated by the behind the scene stuff from players. This is an excerpt from his memoir on his time in training camp with Mangini and his time with Shanahan.

http://m.clevescene.com/cleveland/ma...nt?oid=3625467
Shanny's summer camp atmosphere was enjoyed by the players but there were sure an awful lot of injuries on his teams.
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:18 AM   #3
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Shanny's summer camp atmosphere was enjoyed by the players but there were sure an awful lot of injuries on his teams.
It always seem that way with respective teams. People are always getting injured and you're always the unlucky ones. Look at this offseason for example. I don't remember so many ACL injuries happening before. But maybe that's just me.
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It always seem that way with respective teams. People are always getting injured and you're always the unlucky ones. Look at this offseason for example. I don't remember so many ACL injuries happening before. But maybe that's just me.
I wish there were numbers on this. Shanny's teams always seemed to have an inordinate number of hammies and other stretching related injuries. Now with the Broncos new training program when was the last time you heard of someone missing time for a hammy?
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I wish there were numbers on this. Shanny's teams always seemed to have an inordinate number of hammies and other stretching related injuries. Now with the Broncos new training program when was the last time you heard of someone missing time for a hammy?
The Greek effect.
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That was cool, I like his writing style.

Thanks for posting.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:12 PM   #7
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I wish there were numbers on this. Shanny's teams always seemed to have an inordinate number of hammies and other stretching related injuries. Now with the Broncos new training program when was the last time you heard of someone missing time for a hammy?
You better not have jinxed us just now.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:24 PM   #8
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You better not have jinxed us just now.

I thought of that and crossed my fingers while I typed that so we are good.
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nasty nate probably pulled a hammy again writing about training camp
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nasty nate probably pulled a hammy again writing about training camp
As someone cursed with bad hamstrings I feel bad for him. It is so frustrating to try and play a sport and keep pulling them. You can't do anything when that muscle is pulled.
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shanny won two superbowls with all those hamstring injuries...
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shanny won two superbowls with all those hamstring injuries...
Why is it so hard for some of you guys to discuss Shanny's warts.

I think he may be the greatest OC / gameday coach ever but he had his flaws and his antiquated training program was one of them. He didn't even believe is stretching for Christ's sake.
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Why is it so hard for some of you guys to discuss Shanny's warts.

I think he may be the greatest OC / gameday coach ever but he had his flaws and his antiquated training program was one of them. He didn't even believe is stretching for Christ's sake.
lmfao! so shanny is the reason for injuries. who knew. When I look at shanny, the glass is always half full. There too many clowns like yourself that love to bash him every chance you get.
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lmfao! so shanny is the reason for injuries. who knew. When I look at shanny, the glass is always half full. There too many clowns like yourself that love to bash him every chance you get.
No I don't "love to bash Shanny". It's just that I like dealing in reality and the reality in this case is Shanny supported an antiquated, flawed training program. Since Tuten was sent packing injuries have decreased and the severity of injuries have diminished.

Shanny tried to wear too many hats, does this make him a bad coach, no but it makes him a bad administrator.
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I knew a lot of HS coaches that had Mangina's mentality. Those guys are the worst coaches to play for, takes the fun right out of the sport.
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I knew a lot of HS coaches that had Mangina's mentality. Those guys are the worst coaches to play for, takes the fun right out of the sport.
I actually feel like this isn't so bad in HS. Most kids need way more motivation. My coach was like that and it fueled me.
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I actually feel like this isn't so bad in HS. Most kids need way more motivation. My coach was like that and it fueled me.
Images of my curly red-haired Jr. High Football Coach, with flaring nostrils, shouting at me "I'm going to rip off your head and spit down your throat!"

Thanks for the memories He was a good dude.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:17 PM   #18
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Shanahan is a god among mortals.
except on draft day
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If Mangini's camp was hell just imagine how Mcdummy's camp was like to players with the little Napoleon running around!
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If Mangini's camp was hell just imagine how Mcdummy's camp was like to players with the little Napoleon running around!
McDaniels ran his camp completely different. He allowed the players to play music during stretching, warm ups. McD also started the tradition of having the players sign autographs after practice.

The only issue with Mcd was that he stretched himself thin by being way too hands on with drills and micromanaging the team. He should have had more trust in his coaches to coach, allowing McD to worry about the bigger issues.
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I think we can all safely say that Shanahan was better then his replacement.
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McDaniels ran his camp completely different. He allowed the players to play music during stretching, warm ups. McD also started the tradition of having the players sign autographs after practice.

The only issue with Mcd was that he stretched himself thin by being way too hands on with drills and micromanaging the team. He should have had more trust in his coaches to coach, allowing McD to worry about the bigger issues.
Every issue is a bigger issue to McD.

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It's worse than hell to be coached by any of Bellicheat's coaching tree?

Who knew?
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Fun read, I too love these inside stories.
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