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Old 06-26-2013, 05:21 PM   #1
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I feel that we all know that Hernandez will be gone for the entire season no matter what happens with this court case. I just wanted to discuss where New England will have to turn. I feel that Denver, among other teams can take "advantage" (and I quote that because of the seriousness of the case and the loss of a life) of the situation that New England will be placed in now. Basically, their weapons are extremely thin and I don't see them bringing back B. Lloyd and I wouldn't see TO or Chad Johnson being picked up by them. And the tight ends are very thin outside of Winslow.

For Denver, I can see out WR and TE depth getting a pick(s) or player(s) for them. Obviously we have locks at WR with Demaryius, Decker, and Welker. I wouldn't imagine King will go anywhere. Outside of that, I see one spot being open for the five. No, I'm not counting Holliday as a WR. Anyways, that leaves the door for a potential trade.

As for TE, I don't see any locks, but I believe we will not keep three but we have four guys that can play and two were McDaniels picks.

Again, I know that Hernandez is in a serious situation but I wanted to discuss football about it, like Burger Bill did here:

Could Hernandez's release affect AFC West?

By Bill Williamson | Jun 26, 2013 2:15 PM
The Aaron Hernandez arrest and his fast release from the New England Patriots is clearly a dominant story that shakes beyond the AFC East.

Yes, there is reason to write about it on this blog. While I think it is currently inappropriate to wonder if his future could include the AFC West, his release from the Patriots could affect this division.

The Patriots may be in need of help at tight end with Hernandez gone and Rob Gronkowski a major question mark because of injuries. The free-agent market is very weak at tight end, thus the Patriots may be forced to seek a trade.

I think both Denver and Kansas City should call the Patriots and see if they can take advantage of the team’s hole at the position. I think Denver could potentially dangle Joel Dreessen and Kansas City could potentially offer Tony Moeaki. Both players are better than any option the Patriots currently have.

Dreessen had 41 catches last season. I think Denver would be more open to move Dreessen than Jacob Tamme, because Tamme is a bigger part of the offense and has long-time chemistry with Peyton Manning. Julius Thomas was getting rave reviews for his work in the offseason, so perhaps he is ready to take the next step and become a contributor. That could make Dreessen expendable.

I am a big believer in Moeaki, who has been hampered by injuries. I’m not sure the new Kansas City regime is courting on Moeaki. Anthony Fasano was signed in the offseason and Travis Kelce was drafted in third round. I wouldn’t be shocked if the Chiefs could get something in return for Moeaki and they’d feel comfortable rolling forward with Fasano and Kelce.

One final thought on Hernandez: He is subject to a waiver claim on Thursday. I would be shocked, beyond shocked really, if any team puts a claim on him. I just couldn’t fathom it.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:30 PM   #2
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I'd be all for trading away tamme or dressen for picks, but I doubt Belichick would do something like that. Moeaki wouldn't fetch a high 7th so that probably won't happen either.

And the Patriots already have this guy, so they're all set.
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I'd trade them Orange Julius for a 2d.
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Now I know why we hyped him up. We had in inkling something will happen to one or both of the Pats TEs. Brilliant move Elway and Company.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:46 PM   #6
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This....but wait until after he breaks his ankle in camp.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:43 PM   #7
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I don't want to trade the Patriots our talent when we're in win now mode.
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:52 PM   #9
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Exactly, let the ****ing rat Bellicheck rot.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:14 PM   #10
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why help them stay in contention? right now their issues are assisting us in having one less elite team in our way to the Super Bowl. i say stand pat with what we have, unless the offer for Dreessen or Tamme was exorbitant.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:29 PM   #11
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I don't either. And I don't want to do anything to help them.

But if it were to happen I'd hope Denver would screw them like they've screwed others in deals. The Maroney deal still pisses me off.
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Don't be surprised to see Tebow play well at TE. Dirty Sanchez can't hit the broad side of a barn, so nothing can be taken from any of his time with the jets.
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Don't be surprised to see Tebow play well at TE. Dirty Sanchez can't hit the broad side of a barn, so nothing can be taken from any of his time with the jets.
i like Tim, but i pray that doesn't happen, because I really don't want more Belichick knob worship on ESPN and NFL Network.
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i like Tim, but i pray that doesn't happen, because I really don't want more Belichick knob worship on ESPN and NFL Network.
I pray the same. I hate the patriot scumbags and do not want to see Tebow kicking butt for the next 10 years in that ugly patriot uniform.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:12 PM   #18
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If they want to get better by a trade, let's not make it at our expense.
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I still don't knock them off the elite list until we beat them handily, and they miss the playoffs. As much as I hate belly-boy, he's proven he can take players no one else values and plug them in somewhere and get big impacts from them (of course with a little help from cheating thru his minions videotaping prowess).
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Only trade a player they were going to cut anyway.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:11 PM   #21
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Only trade a player they were going to cut anyway.
Basically why I mentioned the locks at WR. It would be likely somebody who we would cut from the team. Kind of like our trade with Seattle and Colbert.
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Who would we want from them?
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Who would we want from them?
Ninkovitch? about the only player I could see us having any interest in besides Wilfork who will never get traded.
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Ninkovitch? about the only player I could see us having any interest in besides Wilfork who will never get traded.
Not a bad choice. Solid smart player.
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Mallett, then ship him to the Browns.
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