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Old 06-25-2013, 03:44 PM   #1
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Default IRS: the scandal that never was

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politi...ing/index.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3492679.html







Apparently, the IRS was targeting liberal/progressive groups as well,something that conservatives convenently ignored. GOPs case essentially got blown out of the water.
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:36 PM   #2
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Apparently, the IRS was targeting liberal/progressive groups as well,something that conservatives convenently ignored. GOPs case essentially got blown out of the water.
Issa says,
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:10 PM   #3
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Wait, not only did Obama have the Tea Party and conservatives on his enemy list but also liberal and progressive groups!? My God, then They where right, He can be all four!



Thanks to the crazies, you where right!




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Old 06-26-2013, 05:48 AM   #4
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Not to mention according to Issa's own interviews, the person in charge of this targeting was not a liberal, but a self proclaimed conservative.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:03 PM   #5
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Beavis? No comment? You blew an awful lot of smoke. Where's the fire?
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:43 PM   #6
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We pointed out at the beginning that liberals were targeted too and that the GOP was using this for political gain. The rightard cheerleaders around here thought that this was the worst thing to ever happen to the US.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:03 PM   #7
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Tumbleweeds and crickets. Chirp chirp chirp.

Where's Beavis? Where's Taco John? Where's cut?

What of this dreaded 2014 backlash?
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:23 PM   #8
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Beavis? No comment? You blew an awful lot of smoke. Where's the fire?
Keep smokin' that pole, Tone.

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The treatment of progressive groups cannot be equated to that of tea-party groups. The term “progressive” was flagged in a general warning to agency screeners — one that remained on the list throughout the time in question — that the applications of progressive organizations may not merit 501(c)(3) designation, which prohibits groups from engaging in political activity. That warning, according to an IRS source familiar with the review process, did not prevent first-line screeners from recommending an application be approved.

The same lists, between August 2010 and February 2012, directed screeners by default to send tea-party applications to a special group for further review and for coordination with lawyers in Washington, D.C. “They are different,” says the agency source of the designations made for progressive and tea-party groups.
Jeez, I thought you guys said this was just a few rogue Cincy agents. Now suddenly we find out that all Tea Party apps went straight to purgatory in DC, with not a single one ever getting approved, and you guys are still closing cases because someone might have used a different key word sometimes (and then approved the app anyway)

Can you demonstrate a similar denial pattern (aka total)? No. But you'll latch onto whatever distraction you can while the investigation of why DC wanted all those Tea Party apps buried continues.
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So the IRS paid attention to self proclaimed anti tax groups looking for tax free status. Go figure.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:06 PM   #10
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So the IRS paid attention to self proclaimed anti tax groups looking for tax free status. Go figure.
It would stand to reason that people who are anti-tax (conservatives, tea party members) would want to be exempt from taxes.

It would stand to reason that people who are pro tax (progressives, liberals) would not want to be tax exempt.
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Now,Darrel issa is trying to backtrack,claiming he never tried to say it was the white house behind the IRS not only targeting conservative groups but liberal groups as well. Lets remember the scandal was about idea that IRS was only targeting conservatives.
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No. Liberal groups were also targeted. That was known from the start. The turnover time was the big difference
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No. Liberal groups were also targeted. That was known from the start. The turnover time was the big difference
Actually far more liberal groups were targeted then originally stated by Darell issa. All you heard on the news was "IRS singles out conservative groups" but with dems releasing the full transcripts & recent testimony it comes out they were targeting liberals alot as well. It wasn't some conspiracy dreamed up by the white house to only target conservatives.

Edit* come to think of it, Darrell Issa never mentioned that liberal groups were targeted.
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Actually far more liberal groups were targeted then originally stated by Darell issa. All you heard on the news was "IRS singles out conservative groups" but with dems releasing the full transcripts & recent testimony it comes out they were targeting liberals alot as well. It wasn't some conspiracy dreamed up by the white house to only target conservatives.
Like I said. The turnover time was vastly different.
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Like I said. The turnover time was vastly different.
Only cause there were more conservatives applying for tax exempt status then libs. No scandal there.
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Only cause there were more conservatives applying for tax exempt status then libs. No scandal there.
No. That has nothing to do with it.

I can't remember the exact difference but say one of each group was applying at the same time. The "conservative group" would take 2 to 3 times as long to get approved of even reviewed.

Now I am not saying the Admin was behind this. To me this is what I expect of Government run institutions. A lack of organization and oversight while mandating that private businesses live by a different set of rules.
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No. Liberal groups were also targeted. That was known from the start. The turnover time was the big difference

Obviously hundreds of conservative organizations being denied and delayed their tax exempt status is the same as several liberal groups being denied or delayed.
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Who believes ALEC deserves to be a tax exempt organization?
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So at the end of the day, the IRS did its job. They scrutinized both liberal & conservative groups.
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So at the end of the day, the IRS did its job. They scrutinized both liberal & conservative groups.
In a nutshell, yes!
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So at the end of the day, the IRS did its job. They scrutinized both liberal & conservative groups.
so if the IRS scrutinized a few caucasian groups but also scrutinized hundreds of black groups you would make the same statement?
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so if the IRS scrutinized a few caucasian groups but also scrutinized hundreds of black groups you would make the same statement?
Yeah. "Hey, we once made a white guy sit at the back of the bus too. What are you complaining about?"

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So at the end of the day, the IRS did its job. They scrutinized both liberal & conservative groups.
Debunked!
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butthead didn't even read the article. Its over butthead,you can stop crying wolf.
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amazing how the IRS admits to unfairly targeting conservative and tea party groups and we have liberals claiming they didn't....
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