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Old 04-29-2013, 09:27 AM   #1
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Profootballtalk is reporting that the Ravens traded up for Arthur Brown, because he was being targeted by the Texans and yours truly, our Denver Broncos?

So if we had interest in him, why didn't we select a linebacker in the draft? Or if we had interest was it purely out of value?

Had Green Bay taken Ball who apparently was there second round target, and Houston took Brown, would we have taken DJ Swearinger or Eddie Lacy?

The plot thickens!

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8441/arthur-brown

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Old 04-29-2013, 09:29 AM   #2
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I question whether Peter King knows anything about the Broncos.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:31 AM   #3
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I think this was already pretty well known, right? That the Broncos were interested and that's why the Ravens moved up? I didn't know about Houston, but Denver was talked about at the time.

Possible/probable that whatever I read/heard was purely speculative...

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Old 04-29-2013, 09:48 AM   #4
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I think this was already pretty well known, right? That the Broncos were interested and that's why the Ravens moved up? I didn't know about Houston, but Denver was talked about at the time.

Possible/probable that whatever I read/heard was purely speculative...
I had heard the same thing..
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:32 AM   #5
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I went to that site, and this is what it said.
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SI's Peter King reports LB Arthur Brown was "going to be" the Texans' pick at No. 57 before the Ravens traded up to get him.
Where does it say that DEN had interest in him.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:47 AM   #6
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I went to that site, and this is what it said.


Where does it say that DEN had interest in him.
It's in the paragraph.."per King, the Broncos also had interest in him.."
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Profootballtalk is reporting that the Ravens traded up for Arthur Brown, because he was being targeted by the Texans and yours truly, our Denver Broncos?

So if we had interest in him, why didn't we select a linebacker in the draft? Or if we had interest was it purely out of value?

Had Green Bay taken Ball who apparently was there second round target, and Houston took Brown, would we have taken DJ Swearinger or Eddie Lacy?

The plot thickens!

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8441/arthur-brown
They probably wanted him because he would be an upgrade/immediate starter, and then didn't select anybody else because they didn't think they would offer much more than Trevathan. Or more likely, they plan to pick up a FA to solidify MLB.
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They probably wanted him because he would be an upgrade/immediate starter, and then didn't select anybody else because they didn't think they would offer much more than Trevathan. Or more likely, they plan to pick up a FA to solidify MLB.
You mean Irving not Trevethan..

But that's my point, if there was interest, than we aren't as set on the position as Elway gives credit.. And outside of Brown, our Brass didn't think anyone upgraded Irving..
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You mean Irving not Trevethan..

But that's my point, if there was interest, than we aren't as set on the position as Elway gives credit.. And outside of Brown, our Brass didn't think anyone upgraded Irving..
No, I meant Trevathan.

Brown would have bumped Irving, but maybe/apparently they thought nobody else would have bumped Trevethan.

It's all speculation, but agreed.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:57 AM   #10
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only butt hurt people on this site think that every player the Raven got was a player we targeted. It was talked during the NFLN and ESPN coverage that they traded in front of HOU because they really thought they would have taken him. Our lack of interest in ILB should tell us that we are comfortable with what we have.

The player that we targeted (I think) and the reason we moved out of the 4th was the player the Texans grabbed.
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I think everybody and their brother (and sister) on the Mane thought the Broncos would go after an ILB, including me. In fact, JDR, who knows more than anybody on this board about the position, felt perfectly comfortable with what they've got. Even Shaun Phillips is coming in as a DE.
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I think everybody and their brother (and sister) on the Mane thought the Broncos would go after an ILB, including me. In fact, JDR, who knows more than anybody on this board about the position, felt perfectly comfortable with what they've got. Even Shaun Phillips is coming in as a DE.
Maybe they like Mays way better than any of us here.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:18 AM   #13
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Maybe they like Mays way better than any of us here.
I don't think so. They're shopping him around, according to numerous sources.
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I don't think so. They're shopping him around, according to numerous sources.
Yup, I'll be shocked if he's not cut before camp.
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1. Elway and Fox have both stated NUMEROUS times this offseason, that they are going with Irving, Johnson, and Bradley throughout training camp.

2. They have also stated that if things aren't looking good in training camp, that they would possibly bring in a veteran.

3. Alfred Williams stated during the 1st round that "All the Broncos LB's are already on the roster". Not sure if he had inside information or not, but he sounded like he thought he did.

4. Elway, "We were biting our fingers for the last 3 hours" when talking to Montee Ball.

There are no signs that the Broncos will be adding any more LB's to the roster before training camp, and this has been true for some time. I'm glad the Ravens selected Arthur Brown, because I think the Broncos (Montee Ball included) will be able to truck him in the running game. Not worried about him in pass coverage either. Any additional weight that he adds in strength training will drop his speed even further from 4.67 forty.

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Old 04-29-2013, 10:25 AM   #16
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I think everybody and their brother (and sister) on the Mane thought the Broncos would go after an ILB, including me. In fact, JDR, who knows more than anybody on this board about the position, felt perfectly comfortable with what they've got. Even Shaun Phillips is coming in as a DE.
He's coming in as a PRS that's both DE and OLB.
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He's coming in as a PRS that's both DE and OLB.
How many sacks did Shaun Phillips have last year?
I know hes a OLB/DE.
Just curious.
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How many sacks did Shaun Phillips have last year?
I know hes a OLB/DE.
Just curious.
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How many sacks did Shaun Phillips have last year?
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I think everybody and their brother (and sister) on the Mane thought the Broncos would go after an ILB, including me. In fact, JDR, who knows more than anybody on this board about the position, felt perfectly comfortable with what they've got. Even Shaun Phillips is coming in as a DE.
I never thought Denver would go after a MLB. We had enough holes to fill that the brass never said was fine. How many times was it posted on the Mane that Denver said they were set with Irving getting his shot this year... Imagine that, Elway and company were telling the truth.

The original report is purely speculation based on imaginary friends and hearing voices in his head, Peter King right
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I never thought Denver would go after a MLB. We had enough holes to fill that the brass never said was fine. How many times was it posted on the Mane that Denver said they were set with Irving getting his shot this year... Imagine that, Elway and company were telling the truth.

The original report is purely speculation based on imaginary friends and hearing voices in his head, Peter King right
Yep. After all the media noise pre-draft, only two of the experts had us taking Sylvester Williams. Kiper had Carradine and McShay had Werner. The minute Doom left, they all fixated on DE. Mayock had Werner for us too.
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Profootballtalk is reporting that the Ravens traded up for Arthur Brown, because he was being targeted by the Texans and yours truly, our Denver Broncos?

So if we had interest in him, why didn't we select a linebacker in the draft? Or if we had interest was it purely out of value?

Had Green Bay taken Ball who apparently was there second round target, and Houston took Brown, would we have taken DJ Swearinger or Eddie Lacy?

The plot thickens!

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8441/arthur-brown
Med had that scoop long before PFT.

Great call, Med!!

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There is no plot, we ended up getting a great haul of players without jumping around the board like the spastic Patriots. Elway did his home work and had backup options, everything you want your FO to do to land some impact players.
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There is no plot, we ended up getting a great haul of players without jumping around the board like the spastic Patriots. Elway did his home work and had backup options, everything you want your FO to do to land some impact players.
If we had interest in Brown, then we aren't as content with MLB as our Brass is saying.. Why else would you have thought to draft Brown? Maybe after Brown, they didn't think anyone upgraded Irving..
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If we had interest in Brown, then we aren't as content with MLB as our Brass is saying.. Why else would you have thought to draft Brown? Maybe after Brown, they didn't think anyone upgraded Irving..
I am sure there are 10-20 other players we had interest in but couldn't get because of our draft position and number of picks.

It is obvious that they felt RB was more important and they liked Williams a lot.

Instead of upgrading MLB we ended up upgrading DT and RB. Not a big deal.
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