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Old 03-28-2013, 07:06 AM   #1
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Anyone care to explain this to me? A couple took this video. This is a train headed west in the middle of the desert between Hackberry and Peach Springs Arizona. Just a logical explanation would be appreciated.
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Probably equipment returning from Iraq and headed toward mothballing in the desert somewhere.
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Probably equipment returning from Iraq and headed toward mothballing in the desert somewhere.
Hope so.
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Probably equipment returning from Iraq and headed toward mothballing in the desert somewhere.
You've disappointed. Didn't you know it's a secret DHS transport of military materiel for the coming totalitarian regime change?
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Probably equipment returning from Iraq and headed toward mothballing in the desert somewhere.
You are exactly right. They will be overhauled or demil in either Army depot or contractor plant and then stored in the high desert if they are needed again.
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They aren't tanks, who knows where they've come from or are headed to.
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It's a super secret equipment shipment to be used for [insert you favorite conspiracy nutter fantasy here]

Shipped at daytime, in plain view of the public.

Brilliant!

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I wondered the same thing when I saw them roll through my town. Suspicious trains!
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They aren't tanks.

Brilliant analysis.

They also aren't hot air balloons.
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Someone suggested closing gunshow loopholes, so the Redcoats are coming to take our guns.
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Didn't you know, guys? All military vehicles are manufactured on US military bases and flown directly to the battlefield, and then they stay there forever. The public can never see them.
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Didn't you know, guys? All military vehicles are manufactured on US military bases and flown directly to the battlefield, and then they stay there forever. The public can never see them.
Don't forget the mind control rays used to make sure people don't even see the air transports.
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Didn't you know, guys? All military vehicles are manufactured on US military bases and flown directly to the battlefield, and then they stay there forever. The public can never see them.
Cute,

Why did the Department of Homeland Security buy them pray tell?
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Plenty of rational responses, I liked this one.

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Seriously? Strap that tinfoil hat on a little tighter chief.

Those vehicles will be assigned to particular units, primarily HSI SRT teams for high-risk warrants (much-needed considering three of our SRT agents were recently shot up while making an approach on a location), HSI Rapid Response Teams mobilized during natural disasters (ie, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc.) like Katrina and Haiti to support recovery operations and local law enforcement, FEMA response teams to provide aid, Coast Guard natural disaster response, etc.

Your links detail the ammo purchases by DHS. When you actually apply logic to the amounts purchased, instead of retard-level conclusions, you will see why it was purchased. Training, qualifications, field issue, etc., for members of ICE (HSI/ERO/OIA/OPR), US Secret Service, FEMA, US Coast Guard, US Customs and Border Protection (OFO and Border Patrol), FLETC students, and whole host of others.

Christ, people are ****ing stupid these days.
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Plenty of rational responses, I liked this one.
Yes never mind the news about DHS buying 2 billion rounds of ammunition ( many hollow point ) as well as over 2,000 iraqi war vehicles.

Did I mention this was The Department of Homeland Security that make this purchase?
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Yes never mind the news about DHS buying 2 billion rounds of ammunition ( many hollow point ) as well as over 2,000 iraqi war vehicles.

Did I mention this was The Department of Homeland Security that make this purchase?
This has been discussed ad nauseam.

Answer these two questions:

Do armed employees of the government ever need to practice?

Can they go out and pick up the bullets afterwards and reuse them?
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This has been discussed ad nauseam.

Answer these two questions:

Do armed employees of the government ever need to practice?

Can they go out and pick up the bullets afterwards and reuse them?
Do you have any idea how many 2 billion bullets is.

To give you an idea at the height of the Iraqi war the US troops used 6,000,000

2,000,000,000 divided by 6,000,000 = 333.333 months of target practice or 27.7 years. Not to mention a large amount of these bullets are hollow points not used for target practice, oh and illegal in war fare
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Yes never mind the news about DHS buying 2 billion rounds of ammunition ( many hollow point ) as well as over 2,000 iraqi war vehicles.

Did I mention this was The Department of Homeland Security that make this purchase?
Got a link?
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphben...-conversation/
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Yes never mind the news about DHS buying 2 billion rounds of ammunition ( many hollow point ) as well as over 2,000 iraqi war vehicles.

Did I mention this was The Department of Homeland Security that make this purchase?
They didn't buy 2bn rounds of ammo. They set up a contract that allows they to buy UP TO that much. The people running around talking about 1.6bn rounds of ammo are idiots who don't understand that an RFQ (request for quote) is not a purchase agreement.

The DHS put out a several RFQ (for different purposes -- i.e. duty ammo vs. training ammo) for a purchase of UP TO 1.6bn rounds of ammo over 5 years. They did not actually buy 1.6bn rounds of ammo all at once or even 320m/year.

Why so much ammo? They contracted for up to 450m rounds over 5 years for their training center. The DHS training center does training for pretty much all federal agencies and many non-federal law enforcement agencies. Around 70,000 people use their facilities/yr, which means they are planning to be able to supply UP TO 1,300 bullets per user of their training facility over the next 5 years. Not all that much, especially when you consider that it's only UP TO that much. I personally go through more than that every year and I'm not a training law enforcement agent. In a single range visit I may go through 2-300 rounds if I'm shooting my pistols.


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Homeland Security graduates first Corps of Homeland Youth
October 7, 2012. Vicksburg. The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country.


On September 13, 2012, the Dept of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps youth, aka the Homeland Youth. Image courtesy of DHS.gov.

On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing.

DHS raising an armed army

The first problem one finds with this ‘new army’ is the fact that they are mere children. Yes, 18 is generally the legal age a person can sign a contract, join the military or be tried as an adult. But ask any parent - an 18, 20 or even a 24 year-old is still a naïve, readily-influenced kid.

The second problem with this announcement and program is its timing. Over the past two years, President Obama has signed a number of Executive Orders suspending all civil and Constitutional rights and turning over management of an America under Martial Law to FEMA. Also in that time, domestic federal agencies under DHS, including FEMA, have ordered billions of rounds of ammunition as well as the corresponding firearms. Admittedly, these new weapons and ammunition aren’t to be used in some far-off war or to fight forest fires in California, but right here on the streets of America.

Strange Armored Fighting Vehicles

Individuals around the US have begun reporting the site of strange, new, heavily-armed FEMA fighting vehicles. What would a disaster relief agency like FEMA need with 2,500 brand new GLS armored fighting vehicles? According to the agency’s own mandate, as well as President Obama’s recent Executive Order, the answer is ‘population control’ during a time of Martial Law.

One set of images made available by Rense.com shows trailer after trailer carrying these new DHS and FEMA armored fighting vehicles, complete with machine gun slots. They’re labeled with the usual backward American flag and the title, ‘Homeland Security’. Below that and the DHS logo, it also reads, ‘Immigration & Customs Enforcement’. Joining those markings, the black vehicles with white lettering also display ‘POLICE/RESCUE’ on one side and ‘Special Response Team’ on the other.



DHS & FEMA armed fighting vehicles. Images courtesy of Rense.com.



FEMA Corps

FEMA Deputy Administrator Rich Serino gave the keynote address at the ‘Induction Ceremony’ for the inaugural class of FEMA Corps members. According to the DHS website, ‘Corps members assist with disaster preparedness, response, and recovery activities, providing support in areas ranging from working directly with disaster survivors to supporting disaster recovering centers to sharing valuable disaster preparedness and mitigation information with the public.’

Serino describes what the first FEMA Corps class has accomplished so far, as well as where they’ll be going next:

‘Yesterday, we welcomed 231 energetic members into the first ever FEMA Corps class. The members just finished off their first month of training with our partners at the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS) and are one step closer to working in the field on disaster response and recovery. They will now head to FEMA’s Center for Domestic Preparedness to spend the next two weeks training in their FEMA position-specific roles. Once they complete both the CNCS and FEMA training, these 231 dedicated FEMA Corps members will be qualified to work in one of a variety of disaster related roles, ranging from Community Relations to Disaster Recovery Center support.’

A standing army

Unlike most local disaster response teams who are volunteers, training periodically and only showing up when there’s a disaster, the FEMA Corps will be a paid, full time, standing army of government youth. FEMA Deputy Administrator Sarino goes on to explain, ‘The new members, who range in age from 18-24 years old, will contribute to a dedicated, trained, and reliable disaster workforce by working full-time for ten months on federal disaster response and recovery efforts.’

In closing his announcement of the first graduating class of FEMA Corps Youth, Sarino describes his and the agency’s vision of the future, one where ‘FEMA Corps sets the foundation for a new generation of emergency managers’.

DHS arms itself

As we detailed in the August 28 Whiteout Press article ‘History of DHS Ammunition Purchases’, federal emergency management agencies are looking more and more like a military army every day.

The federal government’s procurement website actually lists DHS’ requests for bids to supply it with ammunition and military weaponry. All of the orders listed in the above article, including the orders for hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition, are publicly available at http://www.fbo.gov.

One look at a chart of DHS ammunition purchases over the past decade reveals a drastic spike in orders of bullets recently, totaling in the billions of rounds. Other charts available online show a similar drastic spike in the purchases of accompanying weaponry by the Department of Homeland Security.

What is the US federal government preparing for? And why does it feel it needs an army of brainwashed youth, millions of guns, thousands of armored fighting vehicles and literally billions of rounds of ammunition, just to provide relief to the American people during a natural disaster? Any historian will tell you it sounds more like the arming of the Hitler Youth than an army of first responders fighting forest fires and hurricanes.

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October 7, 2012. Vicksburg. The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country.


At that rate, the planet will have died of natural causes. Baja, the powers given under the Patriot act, Homeland security and other post 911 depts are plenty to be concerned about.

If 231 kids trained for FEMA scare you, better head to the bunker now, there's another 231 kids graduating next year too. So in a couple of thousand years, they'll be.....allowing for deaths from old age......hundreds and hundreds more.

Anyway, the 2nd amendment protects us from kids well trained in the dark arts of hurricane clean up.
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At that rate, the planet will have died of natural causes. Baja, the powers given under the Patriot act, Homeland security and other post 911 depts are plenty to be concerned about.

If 231 kids trained for FEMA scare you, better head to the bunker now, there's another 231 kids graduating next year too. So in a couple of thousand years, they'll be.....allowing for deaths from old age......hundreds and hundreds more.

Anyway, the 2nd amendment protects us from kids well trained in the dark arts of hurricane clean up.
I suppose that is exactly the reaction of Germans when Hitler started his Youth Corps

Obama FEMA Corp recruits conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany

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The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country.
On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing.
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Obama FEMA Corp recruits conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany

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The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country.
On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing.
Your comparison to the Hitler Youth is disingenuous and ignorant of history at best, fearmongering and lunacy at worst.

I'm really getting sick of you armchair historians trying to rewrite German history. The Hitler Youth was always a paramilitary organization. There were no coverups trying to make them look like the Boy Scouts. They were indoctrinated, told they were the future of the Aryan race, and advertised as such.

The only thing that FEMA Corps has in common with Hitler Youth is that it is directed toward young people. For someone like you who complains all the time about people not caring enough about their country (even though you moved away) I would think you would be in favor of a number of kids, no matter how swimmingly insignificantly small, would be motivated to help.
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