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Old 03-26-2013, 06:29 PM   #1
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He values himself at $6 mill a year (gg Condon). Also, we apparently no longer want John Abraham. Losing Doom could come back to bite us in the ass.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:33 PM   #2
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I think we are better off going after Dansby then drafting a DE anyways.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:35 PM   #3
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I think we are better off going after Dansby then drafting a DE anyways.
Apparently the Ravens have been eying him for MLB and it seems our team is content with Irvin and that ST/MLB dude we just signed.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:57 PM   #4
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:33 PM   #5
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Freeny is so beat it's ridiculous. Can't even believe there is any interest.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:36 PM   #6
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No way I want freeney at that price. Take a hike around the league with that one. He'll come crawling back when reality sets in that no one will pay that price.

Abraham just doesn't like the broncos. Looks like we don't like him. The draft. Ayers and co will not get 12 sacks in a community type roll. Just going to have to step up in other areas. Like scoring alot of points.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:25 PM   #7
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No way I want freeney at that price. Take a hike around the league with that one. He'll come crawling back when reality sets in that no one will pay that price.

Abraham just doesn't like the broncos. Looks like we don't like him. The draft. Ayers and co will not get 12 sacks in a community type roll. Just going to have to step up in other areas. Like scoring alot of points.
Yeah who knows, Ayers and company could get 8 sacks, play the run better, maybe get some tips. It all adds up. We'll be fine. In the end, we lost to the eventual Superbowl champs, had them on the ropes and we didn't get many sacks that game. We can play solid and do alot of things - be confident.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:40 PM   #8
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I was all in on Abrahan 7 years ago. He blew us off then and apparently it ain't happening now. Not that I think it would be a good move for us anyway but I still like him more than Freeney.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:47 PM   #9
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Freeney will be lucky to get 3-4 million a year. I guess it'll depend on how much he wants to play/win?

Even if we do pick him up, I doubt it would be much before training camp
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:50 PM   #10
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Just go into camp with what Denver has now and a draft pick. DEs will be cut, just be patient.

Freeney sucks, just roll on without him.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:58 PM   #11
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Lulz. **** Freeney. That moron can hop the next train to retirement for all I care.


And special thanks to Dumervil for screwing the Broncos for as much money as he possibly could then leaving us high and dry.


Trade up for Damontre Moore if he's still there at #22. Otherwise, Broncos won't be able to replace Elvis the Traitor for several more years.
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:09 PM   #12
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Lulz. **** Freeney. That moron can hop the next train to retirement for all I care.


And special thanks to Dumervil for screwing the Broncos for as much money as he possibly could then leaving us high and dry.


Trade up for Damontre Moore if he's still there at #22. Otherwise, Broncos won't be able to replace Elvis the Traitor for several more years.
Several years?

Tank the season and bring on Clowney!
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Lulz. **** Freeney. That moron can hop the next train to retirement for all I care.


And special thanks to Dumervil for screwing the Broncos for as much money as he possibly could then leaving us high and dry.


Trade up for Damontre Moore if he's still there at #22. Otherwise, Broncos won't be able to replace Elvis the Traitor for several more years.
Just curious: serious question. How old are you?
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What's the problem? You disagree with my post?
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:34 PM   #15
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What's the problem? You disagree with my post?
No, you just can be very impulsive. My guess is youre young.
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Lulz. **** Freeney. That moron can hop the next train to retirement for all I care.


And special thanks to Dumervil for screwing the Broncos for as much money as he possibly could then leaving us high and dry.


Trade up for Damontre Moore if he's still there at #22. Otherwise, Broncos won't be able to replace Elvis the Traitor for several more years.
no, and wrong. Like Crick wrong.
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no, and wrong. Like Crick wrong.
You can't argue with 12.5 sacks, 85 tackles, and 21 TFL's as a Junior. Speed, size, strength, height...none of it is important (as Dumervil, and Suggs have shown).

The only thing that's important is "can this guy pressure and sack the Quarterback on a consistent basis"?

Damontre Moore fits the bill. He's not a one year wonder (72 tackles, 8.5 sacks, and 17.5 TFL's as a Sophomore).

Oh, and BTW...he's only 20 years old.

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You can't argue with 12.5 sacks, 85 tackles, and 21 TFL's as a Junior. Speed, size, strength, height...none of it is important (as Dumervil, and Suggs have shown).

The only thing that's important is "can this guy pressure and sack the Quarterback on a consistent basis"?

Damontre Moore fits the bill. He's not a one year wonder (72 tackles, 8.5 sacks, and 17.5 TFL's as a Sophomore).

Oh, and BTW...he's only 20 years old.
I'd be happy with Moore in the second round, but not in the first. I think he has potential but it's really disappointing he couldn't get his act together for the combine, that's all I'm saying. I know you like him, fine.
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You can't argue with 12.5 sacks, 85 tackles, and 21 TFL's as a Junior. Speed, size, strength, height...none of it is important (as Dumervil, and Suggs have shown).

The only thing that's important is "can this guy pressure and sack the Quarterback on a consistent basis"?

Damontre Moore fits the bill. He's not a one year wonder (72 tackles, 8.5 sacks, and 17.5 TFL's as a Sophomore).

Oh, and BTW...he's only 20 years old.
I actually agree with Pricejj here. I think Datone Jones is a solid player, but if the broncos intend to replace Doom with a Doom like pass rusher, then Moore is a better fit. I like him too. Regardless of the combine, he's got a good motor on the field.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:33 PM   #20
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Really? Really!!?? Denver cut him because they thought he wasn't worth the money. Then they try to sign him to a 3 year $18 million deal and the Ravens offered him a 5 year $35 million deal. I am the biggest Broncos' fan in the world and I would have taken the Ravens' deal.
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Really? Really!!?? Denver cut him because they thought he wasn't worth the money. Then they try to sign him to a 3 year $18 million deal and the Ravens offered him a 5 year $35 million deal. I am the biggest Broncos' fan in the world and I would have taken the Ravens' deal.
deal is actually a 5 year 26 million.

Denver offered more guaranteed money.

Slice it how you like. He wanted out of here. And now I hate him. As any true fan would.
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deal is actually a 5 year 26 million.

Denver offered more guaranteed money.

Slice it how you like. He wanted out of here. And now I hate him. As any true fan would.
Yep $1Mill this year, $7.5Mill signing bonus...5 year $26 Mill
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Really? Really!!?? Denver cut him because they thought he wasn't worth the money. Then they try to sign him to a 3 year $18 million deal and the Ravens offered him a 5 year $35 million deal. I am the biggest Broncos' fan in the world and I would have taken the Ravens' deal.

Really just how much of that 35 million is guaranteed ?

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Really? Really!!?? Denver cut him because they thought he wasn't worth the money. Then they try to sign him to a 3 year $18 million deal and the Ravens offered him a 5 year $35 million deal. I am the biggest Broncos' fan in the world and I would have taken the Ravens' deal.
not really correct. Denver offered 3 for 18 and Ravens is 5 for 26 with potential for 35(which he won't be around long enough for). In reality both deals were 1 year deals and Denver offered more guaranteed money which is all that matters.
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not really correct. Denver offered 3 for 18 and Ravens is 5 for 26 with potential for 35(which he won't be around long enough for). In reality both deals were 1 year deals and Denver offered more guaranteed money which is all that matters.
No they didnt. Broncos offered 10 mil guaranteed and ravens offered 12. Ravens also gave a 3.5 million year two guarantee against injury.

This board is terrible for trashing players. We had Doom under contract. We cut him.

For the 5 mil in cap space we are eating and the 6 mil we apparantly offered him, we could have just kept him for 1 mil more under his old deal, and cut Joe Mays to get the Welker deal done and under the cap in time.

All I see is spin and how the Broncos are fine, Doom is a traitor, blah, blah, blah. If Elway ever wants you to drink some kool-aid before taking a ride on a comet, you would be pushing each other out of the way to be first in line.
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