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Old 01-30-2013, 09:47 AM   #1
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:40 PM   #2
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"Societal decay?" Way too broad of a concept to even be useful. I would also argue that "societal decay" is what the older generation always thinks the younger generation is bringing about in era after era after era. Plato thought the younger generation of his time was engaged in "societal decay." And so it goes.

The guy makes some good points, especially the one about the riots in L.A. How does a free society guard itself against psychos? Who knows? Would the shopkeepers in L.A. have been able to hold off rioters with shotguns? Probably. Does anybody really need 30 round clips and armor piercing ammo?
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"Societal decay?" Way too broad of a concept to even be useful. I would also argue that "societal decay" is what the older generation always thinks the younger generation is bringing about in era after era after era. Plato thought the younger generation of his time was engaged in "societal decay." And so it goes.

The guy makes some good points, especially the one about the riots in L.A. How does a free society guard itself against psychos? Who knows? Would the shopkeepers in L.A. have been able to hold off rioters with shotguns? Probably. Does anybody really need 30 round clips and armor piercing ammo?
Is gun availability now comparable to 30 years ago? Are school shooting rates comparable to 30 years ago?
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:32 PM   #5
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"Societal decay?" Way too broad of a concept to even be useful. I would also argue that "societal decay" is what the older generation always thinks the younger generation is bringing about in era after era after era. Plato thought the younger generation of his time was engaged in "societal decay." And so it goes.

The guy makes some good points, especially the one about the riots in L.A. How does a free society guard itself against psychos? Who knows? Would the shopkeepers in L.A. have been able to hold off rioters with shotguns? Probably. Does anybody really need 30 round clips and armor piercing ammo?
Do we really need cars that can go 200+ miles an hour burning a gallon of fuel every mile? Do we really need sports in society, with all the injuries costing millions a year? Since when is a right have anything to do with "need"?
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Do we really need cars that can go 200+ miles an hour burning a gallon of fuel every mile? Do we really need sports in society, with all the injuries costing millions a year? Since when is a right have anything to do with "need"?
I think we should be limited to 2 cars per family with fuel tanks no larger than 10 gallons.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:59 PM   #7
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I think we should be limited to 2 cars per family with fuel tanks no larger than 10 gallons.
That will make a sensible argument as soon as some whacko knocks off a room full of schoolchildren with a car.
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That will make a sensible argument as soon as some whacko knocks off a room full of schoolchildren with a car.
You will always fail to see the true problem.

Sad that immigrants cherish our rights more than we do.
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That will make a sensible argument as soon as some whacko knocks off a room full of schoolchildren with a car.
BS he is saying we could easily make many laws that would save at least one childs life. We could end football for all young kids because its too dangerous a sport. Hell look at all the adults with brain problems? How can we let our kids play that sport?

Also we drive fast. We could easily save lives with a 45 MPH speed limit. It will be worth it if we save even one life right?

Also this winter alone like 10 people have been killed by simply walking too close to the waves along the ocean. They got swept in. We could make a law saying no one walk near the water. It will save at least one life right?
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That will make a sensible argument as soon as some whacko knocks off a room full of schoolchildren with a car.
One guy?

So I assume by this measurement that since over 10,000 people a year are killed in drunken driving crashes that you want to ban or severely restrict booze sales? Limits on how much booze you can buy, how large a bottle of booze, forced booze classes? Booze sales tracking?
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Shhhhhhh. Do not plants anymore stupid ideas in the far left liberals heads.

For Gods sake be quiet or some moron will write dirty Harry or dummy finestien withe it as an original thought.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:05 PM   #12
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Do we really need cars that can go 200+ miles an hour burning a gallon of fuel every mile? Do we really need sports in society, with all the injuries costing millions a year? Since when is a right have anything to do with "need"?
So, your interpretation of the second amendment means you have the right to own an atomic weapon?
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So, your interpretation of the second amendment means you have the right to own an atomic weapon?
I have my application in the works right now to posses my own atomic bomb. Thanks for asking.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:51 AM   #14
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"Societal decay?" Way too broad of a concept to even be useful. I would also argue that "societal decay" is what the older generation always thinks the younger generation is bringing about in era after era after era. Plato thought the younger generation of his time was engaged in "societal decay." And so it goes.
No, this is what societal decay looks like.
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"Societal decay?" Way too broad of a concept to even be useful. I would also argue that "societal decay" is what the older generation always thinks the younger generation is bringing about in era after era after era. Plato thought the younger generation of his time was engaged in "societal decay." And so it goes.
It is. Have you seen these kids lately? All have long hair, stupid looking pants, piercings everywhere, impolite little bastards think the world revolves around them. None of them give a diddly **** about football, or politics.

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The guy makes some good points, especially the one about the riots in L.A. How does a free society guard itself against psychos? Who knows? Would the shopkeepers in L.A. have been able to hold off rioters with shotguns? Probably. Does anybody really need 30 round clips and armor piercing ammo?
What do you think you will need if your government ever turns on you?
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What do you think you will need if your government ever turns on you?
A nuke. From where can I get one?
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It is. Have you seen these kids lately? All have long hair, stupid looking pants, piercings everywhere, impolite little bastards think the world revolves around them.
Like Ro said, every other generation looks down their noses at the ones that will follow them. It has been going on forever. Do some people fit into what you describe? Sure. Do most? Hardly. Having piercings, long hair and stupid looking pants (what is a stupid looking pair of pants?) doesn't signify societal decay. That is their personal appearance. What is the big deal?

If there is a good critique on younger generations (teens to mid-twenties), I would argue that it would be most cannot relate to other generations or engage with people who are older than them. A lot of them are spoiled and have no idea what it is like to work for anything. Blame can be placed on their parents for that. We live in a me-first society in the first place and I think a lot of people end up caring about the wrong things. At any case, the root of most of these problems starts at home.

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More than half of the population is politically apathetic. We have a very uneducated citizenry.
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What do you think you will need if your government ever turns on you?
That ship has sailed, my friend. We have government of the Wall Street, for the military/industrial complex, and by the corporation.

Who should we shoot first?
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We should probably ban the internet too. Lot's of child predators find children from it, not to mention all the child porn they distribute. Hell, if a kid gets bullied over the internet they might kill themselves. The internet must go. We must think of the children first!
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Notice how when AR15s save lives they're called "semiautomatic rifles" but when they take them they're called "assault weapons"?

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Whats more of a scare tactic then support a law limiting clip sizes and rifle types or your kids won't be safe in school.?
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Look at all these Rednecks! Good grief. Damn inbreeds.


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And another one. The redneck is strong with this one.

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And another one. The redneck is strong with this one.

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