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Old 01-28-2013, 09:47 PM   #1
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The Second Amendment separates us from all other countries.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:38 PM   #3
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So does our irresponsibility with guns.
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It sure does.



Tell me they didn't exclude Mexico just because it'd ruin their stats.

Also, how does Estonia and Slovakia make it into the developed world stats when I don't see Brazil and some of the other countries that are routinely mentioned as rough places.
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Tell me they didn't exclude Mexico just because it'd ruin their stats.

Also, how does Estonia and Slovakia make it into the developed world stats when I don't see Brazil and some of the other countries that are routinely mentioned as rough places.
Ruin the stats??

Mexico and Brazil are NICs, (newly industrialized country) somewhere between a third and first world country. That's why they are not included, neither were China or India for the same reason.

How does that effect the US gun murder rate??

It is by far the worst industrialized country, no other comes close, and is topped only by mostly war zones and lawless countries. Gun ownership may not be the sole cause, but arming every idiot, wacko, gang banger and terrorist in the country is.

But, USA, USA, we're number 1. (grunt for full effect) Better??

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Ruin the stats??
Right?!? And even if Mexico were included, and their number was higher, would that somehow make our high number okay? "We're bad, but at least we're not as bad as Mexico!"
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Ruin the stats??

Mexico and Brazil are NICs, (newly industrialized country) somewhere between a third and first world country. That's why they are not included, neither were China or India for the same reason.

How does that effect the US gun murder rate??

It is by far the worst industrialized country, no other comes close, and is topped only by mostly war zones and lawless countries. Gun ownership may not be the sole cause, but arming every idiot, wacko, gang banger and terrorist in the country is.

But, USA, USA, we're number 1. (grunt for full effect) Better??

Ruin the effect, I guess, might be a better way to put it.
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Sheriffs are obligated to uphold the law. They do not have the power to refuse to enforce the law.
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Sheriffs are obligated to uphold the law. They do not have the power to refuse to enforce the law.
An unconstitutional law is not a law. It's pretty simple.
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I still dont understand why you gun nuts think the government is going to try and keep you from owning a gun. I really dont give a **** if you own a handgun, hunting rifle, or shotgun. Neither do they. A ban on civilians owning assault weapons of any kind and making the registration proccess to own normal firearms more stringent is not an attack on our constitutional rights. You can still own guns people, calm down.

...and as to the second ammendment, I also don't understand how one compound sentence, written hundreds of years ago by people who had to fight a war in their own backyard is treated like some god given right akin to drawing breathe. The world we live in now is so different. Here is a fun fact, it was suggested by our founding father Thomas Jefferson that the constitution be rewritten every 19 years, so that the dead could not rule the living.

"His argument was that if Americans weren't vital stakeholders in that foundational document, they would become distanced from governance itself," Phillips explains.
"And the politicians from the president on down would become 'like wolves.' "

http://www.npr.org/2011/12/10/143354...-to-rewrite-it

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I still dont understand why you gun nuts think the government is going to try and keep you from owning a gun. I really dont give a **** if you own a handgun, hunting rifle, or shotgun. Neither do they. A ban on civilians owning assault weapons of any kind and making the registration proccess to own normal firearms more stringent is not an attack on our constitutional rights. You can still own guns people, calm down.
These people desperately need someone/something to be mad at, to be scared of, to blame. And you can't change anything. Progress is not allowed, and any attempt to fix something is a threat to their very way of life. So much easier for them to have good guys and bad guys, black and white.
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These people desperately need someone/something to be mad at, to be scared of, to blame.


The irony. This is exactly the thing driving the gun control measures.
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These people desperately need someone/something to be mad at, to be scared of, to blame. And you can't change anything. Progress is not allowed, and any attempt to fix something is a threat to their very way of life. So much easier for them to have good guys and bad guys, black and white.
If you actually believed this drivel, you'd call for strict restrictions on alcohol sales, if not outright bans on booze. After all, when that many are killed each year by drunken drivers, we should all be frightened/threatened/outraged that something isn't being done to put a stop to it. Yet you and yours utter not one word or lift one finger, unless it's to lift a mug of ale to your chops.

NO, instead we're told to ban "assault weapons" of which the definition is vague and nearly 100% based on the cosmetic appearance of the gun which basically translates to "it's big and scary and something the Terminator would carry" based on nothing more than rare, small numbers of people actually being hurt/killed by these weapons by very rare abusers of the weapon.

Now that is MENSA-worthy, brah.

Shelf that one under Why I'm No Longer a Liberal.
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I still dont understand why you gun nuts think the government is going to try and keep you from owning a gun. I really dont give a **** if you own a handgun, hunting rifle, or shotgun. Neither do they. A ban on civilians owning assault weapons of any kind and making the registration proccess to own normal firearms more stringent is not an attack on our constitutional rights. You can still own guns people, calm down.
Yeah, they don't want to confiscate guns. You're right.

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I still dont understand why you gun nuts think the government is going to try and keep you from owning a gun. I really dont give a **** if you own a handgun, hunting rifle, or shotgun. Neither do they. A ban on civilians owning assault weapons of any kind and making the registration proccess to own normal firearms more stringent is not an attack on our constitutional rights. You can still own guns people, calm down.
If you cared to get off your can and read the paper instead of blindly dismissing it, you'd find an answer to this.

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If you cared to get off your can and read the paper instead of blindly dismissing it, you'd find an answer to this.

Just saying.
I do read the paper and am a very active person. Not sure what your point was. My statement wasn't made from ignorance. Im just not a paranoid gun nut. Show me one bill proposed so far that will confiscate handguns, hunting rifles, or shotguns. Oh wait, you cant because there arent any. I fully support the ban on assault rifles however, no civilian can possibly need one. The may want one, but they don't need it.
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An unconstitutional law is not a law. It's pretty simple.
There is a fine line between "simple" and "simplistic." How to interpret the 2nd Amendment is not nearly as cut and dry as the gun nuts wish it were.

Bottom line: it's the job of the courts to interpret the constitution, not some random county sheriff.

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Sheriffs are obligated to uphold the law. They do not have the power to refuse to enforce the law.
I take it you're a big city guy and have never been in any of the thousands of rural areas where the local sheriff is the law.

Local Sheriffs are not appointed by the federal government. They are elected by the local citizens and will uphold and enforce the laws according to the priority and needs of the people that elect him and sign his pay check.

It's the same as the high school football coach, if he doesn't listen to the local town business owners that support the school and the members of the school board, he will be coaching somewhere else next season.

Also more than likely the local sheriff will be a card carrying member of the NRA.
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I take it you're a big city guy and have never been in any of the thousands of rural areas where the local sheriff is the law.

Local Sheriffs are not appointed by the federal government. They are elected by the local citizens and will uphold and enforce the laws according to the priority and needs of the people that elect him and sign his pay check.
The sheriff does not get to decide which laws pass muster and which don't.

If the local citizens want him to run all the gays out of town, he cannot follow their "needs".

All LEOs must enforce the law as it is, not what they wish it was. Period.
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The sheriff does not get to decide which laws pass muster and which don't.

If the local citizens want him to run all the gays out of town, he cannot follow their "needs".

All LEOs must enforce the law as it is, not what they wish it was. Period.
"Lack of resources" then looking the other way is the oldest move in the book.
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The sheriff does not get to decide which laws pass muster and which don't.

If the local citizens want him to run all the gays out of town, he cannot follow their "needs".

All LEOs must enforce the law as it is, not what they wish it was. Period.
JFC ....... what rock did you crawl out from under, you do know that local sheriffs are elected and are usually good old boys that grew up in the community right? The local sheriff in my town plays in the big Thursday night poker game (Illegal) and then watches everybody drive home after a few too many beers (illegal). He is also the first in line to pickup his football betting cards (illegal). He will probably be elected again next year by a wide margin.

I would be willing to bet several of those Colorado sheriffs that signed that letter fit the same profile.
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JFC ....... what rock did you crawl out from under, you do know that local sheriffs are elected and are usually good old boys that grew up in the community right? The local sheriff in my town plays in the big Thursday night poker game (Illegal) and then watches everybody drive home after a few too many beers (illegal). He is also the first in line to pickup his football betting cards (illegal). He will probably be elected again next year by a wide margin.

I would be willing to bet several of those Colorado sheriffs that signed that letter fit the same profile.
In other words, troglodyte sheriffs from troglodyte areas will do as they want.

No surprise there.

They're violating their oath of office when they do so, you know.
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JFC ....... what rock did you crawl out from under, you do know that local sheriffs are elected and are usually good old boys that grew up in the community right? The local sheriff in my town plays in the big Thursday night poker game (Illegal) and then watches everybody drive home after a few too many beers (illegal). He is also the first in line to pickup his football betting cards (illegal). He will probably be elected again next year by a wide margin.

I would be willing to bet several of those Colorado sheriffs that signed that letter fit the same profile.
I'll also bet that real crime is under control where he is the law..

Also bet he is a conservative.. not a flaming liberal..
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