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Old 01-23-2013, 11:19 PM   #1
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Default How many years before Fox gets fired?

We all know it's just a question of when, not if.

Fox will ride Mannings coat tails for another year, then have a crapass season in 2015 after Manning retires. Then we will rebuild for two years, followed by another crapass 2-14 season like he had in Carolina. That's when Elway will give him the boot.

So I say 5 more years of Fox before we're through with the most conservative head coach in NFL history. But I could be wrong...

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Old 01-23-2013, 11:24 PM   #2
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Now reeves was conservative way more than fox is. IMO. Hell he was stupid enough to try and trade Elway and draft tommy Maddox to replace him.

He loved that run run and then ask John to,save his butt on third down.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:28 PM   #3
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I agree that Reeves was mega conservative. But his was a different era. He coached alongside "Ground" Chuck Knox, for example.

Fox is a tired, old school throwback with the mentality of someone from 1943. The game has passed him by and his p***Y tactics will doom the Broncos to One And Done status forever.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:30 PM   #4
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I agree that Reeves was mega conservative. But his was a different era. He coached alongside "Ground" Chuck Knox, for example.

Fox is a tired, old school throwback with the mentality of someone from 1943. The game has passed him by and his p***Y tactics will doom the Broncos to One And Done status forever.
Hey I got an idea send your resumel to John and Pat with your ideas. Let us know about the response. Ok?

They seem to be fine with him as a HC.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:33 PM   #5
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Hey I got an idea send your resumel to John and Pat with your ideas. Let us know about the response. Ok?

They seem to be fine with him as a HC.
Look, even Shannyham got the heave ho eventually. If there is a truism in football, it's this: all coaches hang on too long, and most are fired well before they ride off into the sunset.

Trust me, Fox will be fired. The question is: WHEN?
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:03 AM   #6
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Look, even Shannyham got the heave ho eventually. If there is a truism in football, it's this: all coaches hang on too long, and most are fired well before they ride off into the sunset.

Trust me, Fox will be fired. The question is: WHEN?
depends on how many SBs the Broncos win with him.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:26 AM   #7
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I agree that Reeves was mega conservative. But his was a different era. He coached alongside "Ground" Chuck Knox, for example.

Fox is a tired, old school throwback with the mentality of someone from 1943. The game has passed him by and his p***Y tactics will doom the Broncos to One And Done status forever.
If he had the mentality of the guys from 1943 I think his problems would be solved... it's the football from that era that is coming back in style now because of the athletic parity. Fox is stuck in the 70s and 80s along with Elway.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:50 AM   #8
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If he had the mentality of the guys from 1943 I think his problems would be solved... it's the football from that era that is coming back in style now because of the athletic parity. Fox is stuck in the 70s and 80s along with Elway.
My bad. What was I thinking comparing Fox to the greatest generation?

You're right...his style is more Carteresque than anything. Slow, plodding, predictable, and utterly without any testosterone. John Fox is the 21st century version of Jimmy Carter!
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:47 AM   #9
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I agree that Reeves was mega conservative. But his was a different era. He coached alongside "Ground" Chuck Knox, for example.

Fox is a tired, old school throwback with the mentality of someone from 1943. The game has passed him by and his p***Y tactics will doom the Broncos to One And Done status forever.
Yeah, the guy has turned the culture and attitude around the team from joke to a winner. 2 division titles and regardless of what fans see or think, this team has big deficiencies on MLB, DT, RB and lack of speed at WR. And the idea that he will tank his job and end up 2-14 is a joke. That happened when his old owner chopped his balls off and was prepping for the lockout by cutting salaries of players.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:50 PM   #11
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So apparently you think that Fox will never be fired? Seriously? He's our coach for life?
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So apparently you think that Fox will never be fired? Seriously? He's our coach for life?

Indeed. Clearly my three word post implied that.


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Indeed. Clearly my three word post implied that.


Well, I read between the lines...

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Well, I read between the lines...
I seriously doubt you're capable of reading much of anything
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So apparently you think that Fox will never be fired? Seriously? He's our coach for life?
No, just that you needed to bring it up like it was some master opinion by you. They either get fired or quit. Many times they quit when they see the writing on the walls. Fox is so far from a conservative game plan (in 2012) like Reeves was giving us.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:19 AM   #16
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Well, chalk me up as one who'd love to have Gruden coach our team. I always thought the guy wanted to get back into coaching, but maybe he really does like that ESPN gig.

He's a good offensive mind, a fiery guy......and he turned Gannon into a pro-bowler. See if he can get Manning his second (or more) ring.....then stick around to mentor Twilight.

Just a hope......but it won't happen.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:56 PM   #17
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Stupid to speculate coming off such an amazing season, but i'll bite a little.

John Fox is going into year 3 of his 4 year contract. These next 2 years, possibly 1 will set up how long he will be here for. So many potential scenarios and outcomes...

If we get to a Super Bowl in the next 2 years, his contract will be renewed IF he wants it renewed. If not, I think it comes down on if John Elway think he has what it takes.

My take: Minimum 2 years.
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Fox gets a minimum of 5 years total. If by the end of the Manning run we do not have at least a SB appearance, he'd be on his way out. But thus far he has 21 wins as Broncos HC and 2 AFC West crowns. Not too shabby.


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Old 01-24-2013, 12:13 AM   #19
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Year zero (pre-Fox): 4 wins
Year one: 8 wins
Year two: 13 wins

I'm sure he'll be gone real soon.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:16 AM   #20
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I think John Fox will be given the next two seasons. If we have won a Superbowl, he will be extended (hell, he might even retire). If not, he wont.
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Fox is one of the reasons we lost the game..It should never come to Moore or Manning Interception..When Ravens fumbled the ball, what did we do??..Kept running the ball.
Once we have 7 or 10 point lead, he starts to become conservative.
It's in his blood.It doesn't matter who the QB is.
It's really a tough situation for Elway.
Fox is a coach that brings stability to the organization(similar to what marty did to SD few years back)..But, to win in playoffs/SB..he should stop being scared.

Next year..if we are one and done in playoffs,then Elway will fire Fox.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:56 AM   #22
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Some real sour grapes and spoiled fans around here. But, I guess the nice thing is how quickly Elway has raised our collective expectations.

We go six years with no playoffs, then get to the divisional round twice and now our coach deserves to be fired - sheesh, tough crowd.

Every one and their dog agrees it will be a three year rebuilding project from the second worst team in football to the goal of a superbowl and we are kicking along right on schedule. Lost a D-coordinator, lost an O-coordinator, and we keep replacing lost coaches and getting better each year. I say that is a testament to the head coach, but what do I know?
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:57 AM   #23
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if the Broncos don't win it all this year I think Fox will be gone.
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Fox is the new Reeves. John knows this. This time, Elway appreciates Reeves a lot more. That said, we might win the big one with fox, but to truly dominate, we need a new coach. Fox has always been to get us to the championship level, not necessarily to win it.

He is the Reeves and George Karls of the world, and there is nothing wrong with that.
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