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Old 01-19-2013, 01:56 PM   #1
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Is anyone REALLY surprised that that game was edged in Baltimore's favor? Or that Manning coming off an injury was scheduled to play all of his big matchups at the beginning of the Season (in case he got hurt possibly?) or other intricacies that seem to unfold, almost like they're scripted?

Of course the whole thing isn't (no way everyone could be in on it, and not discounting the work these guys do), but really you only need a holding call here or there to change the ENTIRE NFL SEASON, for example, the fake one on the dive play.

The more I watch, the more I see the "storylines" and the more I compare how games go and pivotal officiating calls to Vegas' lines. I just can't help but wonder.

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Old 01-19-2013, 02:12 PM   #2
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Can't argue. With the pack of inconsistent called blatantly in the ravens favor, felt like I was watching the NBA.
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Can't argue. With the pack of inconsistent called blatantly in the ravens favor, felt like I was watching the NBA.
The NBA is a total joke. That's the biggest p***Y sport on the planet IMO.
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People blamed me when i said games are fixed..
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Officiating was terrible last week, but there isn't some grandiose conspiracy to get a Raven v. Patriot AFC championship. Brady vs. Manning would have been a much bigger media suck off.
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Officiating was terrible last week, but there isn't some grandiose conspiracy to get a Raven v. Patriot AFC championship. Brady vs. Manning would have been a much bigger media suck off.


That's not to say that the refs aren't affiliated in some way with the sports books or Vegas. It doesn't necessarily have to be the league pulling the strings. I'm sure through history this would not be unheard of in professional sports. I bet (no pun intended) the league did want a Brady vs Manning AFCC game. Doesn't mean the refs couldn't be influenced by other outside sources.

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While Brady vs. Manning is always a good story, the Ray Lewis story is better. If the Ravens get the favorable calls, once again, I won't be surprised...
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:54 PM   #9
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While Brady vs. Manning is always a good story, the Ray Lewis story is better. If the Ravens get the favorable calls, once again, I won't be surprised...
How is the Ray Lewis story better? Peyton Manning was surveyed as the most popular player in the league earlier this year. Its a QB driven league. No one outside of baltimore really gives a **** about Ray Lewis
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How is the Ray Lewis story better? Peyton Manning was surveyed as the most popular player in the league earlier this year. Its a QB driven league. No one outside of baltimore really gives a **** about Ray Lewis
I'm just thinking of the media perspective. Ray Lewis is retiring. Sure, they can rehash the previous meeting, between Brady and Manning. That's about it, though. There are a lot more stories that can be told, with Ray Lewis. You should know that. You're an official storyteller...
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That's not to say that the refs aren't affiliated in some way with the sports books or Vegas. It doesn't necessarily have to be the league pulling the strings. I'm sure through history this would not be unheard of in professional sports.I bet (no pun intended) the league did want a Brady vs Manning AFCC game. Doesn't mean the refs couldn't be influenced by other outside sources.

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I agree..
If close relatives of refs bets in huge amounts, they will be compelled to call the game differently.
Also, we need to look at betting mafia that can easily influence ref's calls.
Last week's game was fixed by ref's.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:26 PM   #12
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Nah...it's the modified Hanlon's Razor.

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by incompetence.

We witnessed incompetence. They don't call those hands to the face penalties against the Ravens if they were engaged in some sort of grand conspiracy.
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It's not fixed. Just a really bad day for the officials.

I think the NFL needs to tweak a few things, but I know they won't because they're greedy bastards.

The game is much different today then it was 20 or 30 years ago. Players are faster, offenses play at a much faster pace, they pass more and they spread the field out more. I don' think refs can focus in on all the players as quick as they need to.

I'm all for the NFL having full time refs but I know they won't do it. But what I think they HAVE to do is have 4 groups that are full time. Those refs of course work the regular season but they're the groups that ref the playoffs. I don't think that's asking too much. I want the guys in stripes who are calling the playoff games to be full time and dedicate their focus for the entire year at improving their craft.
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Officiating was terrible last week, but there isn't some grandiose conspiracy to get a Raven v. Patriot AFC championship. Brady vs. Manning would have been a much bigger media suck off.
Its Ray's last hurrah. That is plenty of suck off
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Unless its some donaghy-esque situation, I'm gonna chalk it up to **** luck.

Why would the NFL be hellbent on a Ravens/NE matchup?
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Unless its some donaghy-esque situation, I'm gonna chalk it up to **** luck.

Why would the NFL be hellbent on a Ravens/NE matchup?
...to get the Patriots at home for the AFC Championship game
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:45 AM   #17
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...to get the Patriots at home for the AFC Championship game
THIS! Also to re-play the Balt NE AFCCG from last year, which had some
problematic calls also.

Does anyone else think it is a little funny that NE-Balt is the late game
today, while SF has to travel from the west coast and play the EARLY game at Atlanta? Who made that decision? It is well known that traveling east and playing early games puts west coast teams at somewhat of a disadvantage. Yet the two east coast teams in the AFC get the late game , while Atlanta
( also east coast) gets a west coast team early.

While I don't think the games are truly fixed, I am leaning more and more in the direction that the league has preferences as to who they would like to see in the super bowl and is not above giving certain teams preferential treatment as far as scheduling.

I will be watching these games closely to see if the Officating crews are even handed or not.

I suspect that Atlanta and Baltimore might get more favorable calls.

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Old 01-19-2013, 03:51 PM   #18
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My grandma (not the one that passed, this one is still with us) use to be married to a pro wrestler, and travel with him. Long before i was born. Ken Lucas was his name. She talks about him sometimes, when my grandpa isn't around. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhoACWLxu6I

Of course he let her in on the, at the time, closely guarded secret that wrestling is/was fake. However, what drives me insane is the fact that he also told her that all pro sports are fake. I have argued with her so much about it. When we go to a casino in Laughlin or Vegas to gamble, I ask her to show me where it is that I can bet on the next pro wrestling match. She just will not ever stop. Last year it was "yeah that Tebow is great. They keep letting him win, maybe they'll let him win the Super Bowl this year."

She thought last week was the NFL trying to make money on all the gamblers betting on the broncos. She actually thought that Jacoby Jones, Rahim Moore, and Joe Flacco faked what they did. Please don't feed into my sweet old grandma's tinfoil hat conspiracies. The league wanted Manning/Brady. Probably also wanted Green Bay/Atlanta. The league is kinda pissy right now.

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Old 01-19-2013, 04:11 PM   #19
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Referees were horrible and borderline suspect but it doesn't change that our defense bled yardage and our offense had issues, esp. when Moreno went out.
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People blamed me when i said games are fixed..
There is no compelling reason to have fixed it for Baltimore, none.

Ray Lewis had his home finale ... his draw for the AFCCG pales next to Peyton's.
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Laughing at these conspiracy theorists.

There might be some bias.... there always is, no matter how hard to league tries to fight the image of bias. It is reflected in things like the number of Broncos in the hall of fame or the fact that coastal teams get much more media exposure than inland teams.

But that is simply the result of the fact the people like Roger Goodell, and the nice folks over at ESPN are all human, and capable of error, not some conspiracy.

I will admit, if the Ravens game is called fairly, than the Broncos probably win that game. Or if Rahim or Champ showed up, too, the Broncos probably win the game.
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Laughing at these conspiracy theorists.

There might be some bias.... there always is, no matter how hard to league tries to fight the image of bias. It is reflected in things like the number of Broncos in the hall of fame or the fact that coastal teams get much more media exposure than inland teams.

But that is simply the result of the fact the people like Roger Goodell, and the nice folks over at ESPN are all human, and capable of error, not some conspiracy.

I will admit, if the Ravens game is called fairly, than the Broncos probably win that game. Or if Rahim or Champ showed up, too, the Broncos probably win the game.
It doesn't matter..This league is fixed.
It is either done by NFL or ref's..
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It doesn't matter..This league is fixed.
It is either done by NFL or ref's..
You have brain damage. It's either from god, or self-inflicted.
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Same to you..
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It doesn't matter..This league is fixed.
It is either done by NFL or ref's..
the league isn't fixed...if it were then this parity they seek would have allowed the Browns to have won a SB by now....

No, I think the truth is that the union refs are just more expensive versions of the replacement refs.
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