The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Jibba Jabba > War, Religion and Politics Thread
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-14-2013, 08:26 AM   #1
peacepipe
Ring of Famer
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,010

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default GOP pollster: americans don't care about the size of gov.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...e-what?ref=fpb

Quote:
Renowned Republican pollster Frank Luntz on Monday had a brutally honest take on the GOP's central platform plank.

Luntz said the party's focus on the size of the federal government, rather than its overall effectiveness and efficiency, makes for a poor message.

“The American people don’t care what the size of government is,” Luntz said during an appearance on "Fox & Friends." "They do care what types of services government gives and, quite frankly, how much government takes.”

It's the second time in a month that Luntz has aimed public criticism at the right, with the messaging guru arguing in late-December that the National Rifle Association was out of step with the American public.
Nothing is going the gops' way.
peacepipe is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 01-15-2013, 10:24 AM   #2
Rohirrim
Partisan
 
Rohirrim's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater
Posts: 54,492

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Malik Jackson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by peacepipe View Post
Which changes nothing. They can, and will, block anything that doesn't fit their reactionary ideology. The country is being held hostage. As long as it is, we will remain in this recession.
Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 10:39 AM   #3
peacepipe
Ring of Famer
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,010

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rohirrim View Post
Which changes nothing. They can, and will, block anything that doesn't fit their reactionary ideology. The country is being held hostage. As long as it is, we will remain in this recession.
For the time being,but long-term the gop is just destroying itself. They are going to go the way of the whigs,if they don't adjust to certain realities.
peacepipe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 12:11 PM   #4
Arkie
Ring of Famer
 
Arkie's Avatar
 
The f--- y'all motherf-ckas want?

Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 10,483
Default

"They do care what types of services government gives and, quite frankly, how much government takes.”

That's obvious. Do they not understand that bigger government takes more?
Arkie is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 02:02 PM   #5
DenverBrit
Just hanging out.
 
DenverBrit's Avatar
 
Got a breath mint??

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Denver
Posts: 12,438

Adopt-a-Bronco:
The Team
Default

In the age of technology, government should be more efficient and smaller.

But no, we have something that still looks like this...............

DenverBrit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 07:35 PM   #6
peacepipe
Ring of Famer
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,010

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkie View Post
"They do care what types of services government gives and, quite frankly, how much government takes.”

That's obvious. Do they not understand that bigger government takes more?
You're obviously in the minority.
peacepipe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 02:35 PM   #7
W*GS
Ring of Famer
 
W*GS's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Earth
Posts: 20,858
Default

I'm always arguing with the Norquist acolytes that we should want good government, not cheap government. They conflate the two.
W*GS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 07:50 PM   #8
Rohirrim
Partisan
 
Rohirrim's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater
Posts: 54,492

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Malik Jackson
Default

The joke is on the GOP dummies. Had Gore been elected, the government would have been streamlined and reduced considerably, something he was very successful with under Clinton. Instead, they cheated to put the all-hat-no-cattle cowboy in the WH and he went on a drunken binge. They have nobody but themselves to blame.
Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 11:01 AM   #9
Arkie
Ring of Famer
 
Arkie's Avatar
 
The f--- y'all motherf-ckas want?

Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 10,483
Default

The joke is on the people. The formula for success in Washington is to make promises to the people, but keep promises to the lobbyists. Otherwise, you can't get to the top and stay there. Gore wouldn't have been any different from the other "choices" we've had this millennium: Gore, Bush, Kerry, McCain, and Romney. That's all we've had to choose from. Do you trust any of them?
Arkie is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 11:20 AM   #10
peacepipe
Ring of Famer
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 7,010

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkie View Post
The joke is on the people. The formula for success in Washington is to make promises to the people, but keep promises to the lobbyists. Otherwise, you can't get to the top and stay there. Gore wouldn't have been any different from the other "choices" we've had this millennium: Gore, Bush, Kerry, McCain, and Romney. That's all we've had to choose from. Do you trust any of them?
So since your side of the political spectrum can't put a trustworthy candidate,you want to lump all gore with them.
peacepipe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2013, 03:40 PM   #11
Arkie
Ring of Famer
 
Arkie's Avatar
 
The f--- y'all motherf-ckas want?

Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 10,483
Default

You're too gullible if you don't see that it's both sides. Yes, Gore and Kerry aren't trustworthy either. I can't believe I forgot about Obama. Can't leave him out.
Arkie is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:09 PM.


Denver Broncos