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Old 01-03-2013, 02:48 PM   #1
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"Going back to where we were. We were probably at the lowest point that the franchise had been...since I had been around the franchise, and really, since Pat owned the franchise, so we were at the lowest point we'd ever been. So we had to get some loyalty back, not only with our players, but also with our fans. And to me, Champ Bailey was that base. He was going to be the guy we were going to build around. He had been here several years, was a great, great player. We still thought he could play. All those things come into play, so that's why it was important for us to start that build with a guy like Champ Bailey who had had that experience here, and the fan base knew, and getting that connection back with the fan base that this organization has had such a close connection with for so long...and we really, at that point in time, really felt like we lost. So that was a move, not only was he a great player, but also our fans identified with him as an important cog in this organization and why it was important for us to get him re-signed"

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Some pretty interesting stuff, and a nice interview. So glad the Duke has stepped in and made so many positive strides. I ****ing love this team.

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Old 01-03-2013, 02:57 PM   #2
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Found this on Reddit:

"Going back to where we were. We were probably at the lowest point that the franchise had been...since I had been around the franchise, and really, since Pat owned the franchise, so we were at the lowest point we'd ever been. So we had to get some loyalty back, not only with our players, but also with our fans. And to me, Champ Bailey was that base. He was going to be the guy we were going to build around. He had been here several years, was a great, great player. We still thought he could play. All those things come into play, so that's why it was important for us to start that build with a guy like Champ Bailey who had had that experience here, and the fan base knew, and getting that connection back with the fan base that this organization has had such a close connection with for so long...and we really, at that point in time, really felt like we lost. So that was a move, not only was he a great player, but also our fans identified with him as an important cog in this organization and why it was important for us to get him re-signed"

Link to the article: http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...ing-new-tricks

And link to the actual interview with Sandy:http://www.1043thefan.com/podcasts/E....aspx?PID=2095

It's labeled as Clough Talk Hour 2 1/2/13



Some pretty interesting stuff, and a nice interview. So glad the Duke has stepped in and made so many positive strides. I ****ing love this team.

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That's all well and good, but who is the girl in your avatar?
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:03 PM   #3
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You don't remember?

You meet her in a LoDo bar and was going to score by taking her back to your dorm until your buddy threw up all over her.


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Old 01-03-2013, 02:59 PM   #7
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Also, when do you think Champ passes the reins to Harris, and takes over for Mike Adams?

He's still a good corner - and a great tackler, but you can tell he's lost some speed.
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Yet there are three posters that claim McD wasn't bad.
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Yet there are three posters that claim McD wasn't bad.
Just so we all know. Which of the 08 players from mikey old team were worth keeping?

Besides Doom and Champ on defense.

Kuper and Clady on offense.
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:16 PM   #10
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Just so we all know. Which of the 08 players from mikey old team were worth keeping?

Besides Doom and Champ on defense.

Kuper and Clady on offense.

Jay Cutler
Brandon Marshall
Tony Scheffler
Brandon Stokley
Daniel Graham
Peyton Hillis (arguably)
DJ Williams
Wesley Woodyard
Champ Bailey
Elvis Dumervil
Chris Kuper
Ryan Clady
Matt Prater
Spencer Larsen

I wouldn't call them all-stars, but they make up a pretty decent core of a team. And that's without mentioning that we had more cap room and draft picks going into '09 than we've had in Franchise history - and Josh pretty well squandered it all.
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Jay Cutler
Brandon Marshall
Tony Scheffler
Brandon Stokley
Daniel Graham
Peyton Hillis (arguably)
DJ Williams
Wesley Woodyard
Champ Bailey
Elvis Dumervil
Chris Kuper
Ryan Clady
Matt Prater
Spencer Larsen

I wouldn't call them all-stars, but they make up a pretty decent core of a team. And that's without mentioning that we had more cap room and draft picks going into '09 than we've had in Franchise history - and Josh pretty well squandered it all.
Not a bad list.

But as for cutlet well it is up for debate why he wanted out.

BM and TS played there way out of DEN with attitude/legal/league issues take your pick for the player.

So they were no goes in any shape or form.

BTW would you have hpwanted any of those head cases forthe money they got with new teams. Who would you have cut to keep them.

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Brandon Stokley cut after sub par season less than 20 catches and injuries
Daniel Graham had a contract coming up
Peyton Hillis (arguably) have no idea why he was cut. Maybe he had his hands on Joshes wife's a ss
DJ Williams. Still here
Wesley Woodyard still here
Champ Bailey still here
Elvis Dumervil. Still here
Chris Kuper still here
Ryan Clady still here
Matt Prater still here
Spencer Larsen no loss.
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Beadles
Walton
Decker
Ayers
Moreno
D Thomas
Burton
Colquitt
Unrien
Vickerson.

IMHO Josh left us in better shape than mikey did

Have to do this in pieces. Working on Hughes net and it is slow.

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Old 01-04-2013, 09:38 AM   #12
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Right, because you know, with a bad ass run game, a bad ass defense, Cutler and Marshall are just kicking ass in Chicago...oh wait, they aren't.

And Scheffler is always hurt. Graham had hands on stone. Hillis blows. Everyone else we still have.
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Jay Cutler
Brandon Marshall
Tony Scheffler
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Daniel Graham
Peyton Hillis (arguably)
DJ Williams
Wesley Woodyard
Champ Bailey
Elvis Dumervil
Chris Kuper
Ryan Clady
Matt Prater
Spencer Larsen

I wouldn't call them all-stars, but they make up a pretty decent core of a team. And that's without mentioning that we had more cap room and draft picks going into '09 than we've had in Franchise history - and Josh pretty well squandered it all.
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Just so we all know. Which of the 08 players from mikey old team were worth keeping?

Besides Doom and Champ on defense.

Kuper and Clady on offense.
Cutler, Marshall, Wesley Woodyard, DJ Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, Ryan Harris, Peyton Hillis, Tyler Polumbus, Matt Prater, Brandon Stokely, Eddie Royal, Tony Scheffler, and you already gave 4 more, and I'm probably missing another couple.
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Cutler, Marshall, Wesley Woodyard, DJ Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, Ryan Harris, Peyton Hillis, Tyler Polumbus, Matt Prater, Brandon Stokely, Eddie Royal, Tony Scheffler, and you already gave 4 more, and I'm probably missing another couple.
Allow me to reply for Lonestar:

DJ Willlams is a no good dumbski of a plyer. Always drivin drink and can't make tackles axcept 10 yards don the feld. You DJ Willlam bois are two much.

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Cutler, Marshall, Wesley Woodyard, DJ Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, Ryan Harris, Peyton Hillis, Tyler Polumbus, Matt Prater, Brandon Stokely, Eddie Royal, Tony Scheffler, and you already gave 4 more, and I'm probably missing another couple.
Locktenstieger could not hold a block.
Harris could not stay on the field.
Royally was a joke
Polumbus well he needed a few more years to develop still not sure he has

Stokely was hurt and had a poor season. IIRC everyone wanted his OLD a ss cut.
Cutlet, TS and BM all were promised new contracts by mikey for the next spring so all had lousy attitudes. Not to mention BM the spouse beater. Missed how many games due to Goodell.

WW was nothing at that time but a special teams player. And BTW he is still here.


How many of those defensive starters In 08 made the team in 09 3 dj (IMO an overpaid loser) doom and champ. That is all all the others never started for another team in 09, most were not in the NFL in 10 and folks those were our starters. Mikey could really choose them.

Note that the few players that were left over Josh added more to and IMO LEFT John more than he got. Better quality.

See post above.
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Also, when do you think Champ passes the reins to Harris, and takes over for Mike Adams?

He's still a good corner - and a great tackler, but you can tell he's lost some speed.
I don't think he's ever going to play safety, been talked about for many years now. Champ doesn't have any interest in playing safety.

If/when he gets his ring, he will call it a career soon after.
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I don't think he's ever going to play safety, been talked about for many years now. Champ doesn't have any interest in playing safety.
Sure he does. There was a interview in the post and he says it will happen but not yet.
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Sure he does. There was a interview in the post and he says it will happen but not yet.
You are incorrect.


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"It just has to make sense to me. I'm not looking to play safety," Bailey said. "So it would have to make sense, if it doesn't make sense I'm not doing it. I'm not going to do it just to do it, to save money on the cap or something.

"I'm a realist, though, if I see myself on tape and I think it's time to make a move, I'll know it's time to make a move, I'll be the first to see it, I'll be the first to know it," Bailey said, smiling. "In my mind, though, I might not say it right away, I might wait for somebody to ask."

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He's not moving to safety, he's still got it and still does a great job covering. He's got a couple years left in him, and then he will ride off into the sunset, hopefully with a SB ring.
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He's not moving to safety, he's still got it and still does a great job covering. He's got a couple years left in him, and then he will ride off into the sunset, hopefully with a SB ring.
Um, from your own quote

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"I'm a realist, though, if I see myself on tape and I think it's time to make a move, I'll know it's time to make a move, I'll be the first to see it, I'll be the first to know it," Bailey said, smiling. "In my mind, though, I might not say it right away, I might wait for somebody to ask."
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He's not moving to safety, he's still got it and still does a great job covering. He's got a couple years left in him, and then he will ride off into the sunset, hopefully with a SB ring.
Hopefully with a couple Super Bowl rings.
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Question number 1 : I honestly can't remember!! I'll do some research, see what I can come up with!

Question number 2: I think the year after next, actually. Once he has that ring (this year!), I think he has a come to Jesus talk with himself and the coaches, and makes a switch
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Unless you include the abreviated season from '82 it was the worst season since 1971.

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Unless you include the abreviated season from '82 it was the worst season since 1971.
I remember 1990 being pretty awful...remember the guy who lived on the Billboard until Denver won another game?
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I remember 1990 being pretty awful...remember the guy who lived on the Billboard until Denver won another game?
Didn't that guy have a sleeping bag? That takes me back.
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I remember 1990 being pretty awful...remember the guy who lived on the Billboard until Denver won another game?
Holy crap, I remember that dude!

The Denver news stations would have nightly updates on his condition...too freaking funny man.
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