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Old 12-23-2012, 01:39 PM   #1
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Who do the Texans play next week?
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:55 PM   #3
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:55 PM   #4
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:38 PM   #6
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Not so sure about that. Looking at the NFL standings, it does seem possible that Indy could slip from the #5 seed to the #6 seed with a loss. If Cincinnati beats Pittsburgh next week, an Indy loss to Houston would result in 10-6 records for both Indy and Cincinnati.

Now, checking the tiebreaking procedures, to break a tie between two non-divisional teams for a seed goes as follows:

1)Head to head- Not applicable as Indy did not play Cincinnati.

2)Won-loss-tied % in conference games. Cincy win puts them at 7-5. Indy loss to Houston drops them to 7-5. Go to tiebreaker #3.

3)Won-loss-tied % in common opponents- minimum 4 teams. Not applicable, as there are not 4 common opponents between Cincy and Indy. Go to tiebreaker #4.

4)Strength of Victory. I am assuming this is season PF minues season PA to equal point differential. Cincy is +35, Indy is -42.

So, it does appear that Indy could be playing to hold onto their #5 seed with a loss potentially resulting in a #6 seed. This is also assuming that Baltimore wins the AFC North. Baltimore is currently up 17-7 over the NYGiants. If the Giants make a comeback, I will go through the tiebreaking procedures to see if Baltimore can potentially slip behind Indy to a #6 seed.

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Old 12-23-2012, 02:43 PM   #7
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Not so sure about that. Looking at the NFL standings, it does seem possible that Indy could slip from the #5 seed to the #6 seed with a loss. If Cincinnati beats Pittsburgh next week, an Indy loss to Houston would result in 10-6 records for both Indy and Cincinnati.

Now, checking the tiebreaking procedures, to break a tie between two non-divisional teams for a seed goes as follows:

1)Head to head- Not applicable as Indy did not play Cincinnati.

2)Won-loss-tied % in conference games. Cincy win puts them at 7-5. Indy loss to Houston drops them to 7-5. Go to tiebreaker #3.

3)Won-loss-tied % in common opponents- minimum 4 teams. Not applicable, as there are not 4 common opponents between Cincy and Indy. Go to tiebreaker #4.

4)Strength of Victory. I am assuming this is season PF minues season PA to equal point differential. Cincy is +35, Indy is -42.

So, it does appear that Indy could be playing to hold onto their #5 seed with a loss potentially resulting in a #6 seed. This is also assuming that Baltimore wins the AFC North. Baltimore is currently up 17-7 over the NYGiants. If the Giants make a comeback, I will go through the tiebreaking procedures to see if Baltimore can potentially slip behind Indy to a #4 seed.
Indy has no chance at the #3 or #4 seeds. Texans won the division when the beat them last week.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:45 PM   #8
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Indy has no chance at the #3 or #4 seeds. Texans won the division when the beat them last week.
Yes, I edited that message. I was talking about the last two wildcard seeds and edited my message to reflect that.
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Strength of Victory is not the season's plus/minus.

Its how good your wins are.

A part of the NFL's tiebreaking proceedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten.

Seeds 4, 5 and 6 are locked in and cannot change.
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:34 PM   #10
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Strength of Victory is not the season's plus/minus.

Its how good your wins are.

A part of the NFL's tiebreaking proceedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten.

Seeds 4, 5 and 6 are locked in and cannot change.
Well that sucks then. How do you know that? Did you hear it somewhere. I don't see it being clarified on the tiebreaking procedures page.
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Strength of Victory is not the season's plus/minus.

Its how good your wins are.

A part of the NFL's tiebreaking proceedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten.

Seeds 4, 5 and 6 are locked in and cannot change.
Just a few weeks ago, you had some pretty harsh words for anyone who said that there was even a chance we could get the #1 seed. Sweating yet?
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Not so sure about that. Looking at the NFL standings, it does seem possible that Indy could slip from the #5 seed to the #6 seed with a loss. If Cincinnati beats Pittsburgh next week, an Indy loss to Houston would result in 10-6 records for both Indy and Cincinnati.

Now, checking the tiebreaking procedures, to break a tie between two non-divisional teams for a seed goes as follows:

1)Head to head- Not applicable as Indy did not play Cincinnati.

2)Won-loss-tied % in conference games. Cincy win puts them at 7-5. Indy loss to Houston drops them to 7-5. Go to tiebreaker #3.

3)Won-loss-tied % in common opponents- minimum 4 teams. Not applicable, as there are not 4 common opponents between Cincy and Indy. Go to tiebreaker #4.

4)Strength of Victory. I am assuming this is season PF minues season PA to equal point differential. Cincy is +35, Indy is -42.

So, it does appear that Indy could be playing to hold onto their #5 seed with a loss potentially resulting in a #6 seed. This is also assuming that Baltimore wins the AFC North. Baltimore is currently up 17-7 over the NYGiants. If the Giants make a comeback, I will go through the tiebreaking procedures to see if Baltimore can potentially slip behind Indy to a #4 seed.
Nice research. They'll be basically playing to choose their opponent. They could just give their starters a rest and take their bye now, but if they fear New England that badly they could play to avoid them and take on the AFC North winner instead.
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:04 PM   #13
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Nice research. They'll be basically playing to choose their opponent. They could just give their starters a rest and take their bye now, but if they fear New England that badly they could play to avoid them and take on the AFC North winner instead.
This.

Also, I think the HOU matchup is actually the best one we would want. You'd want to get your rookie QB as much experience as possible going into the postseason as it is, but with a matchup against the #1 seed, you have all the more reason to play these guys 100% and see how you measure up as a playoff team. If I was coach, I'd definitely try to make a statement in this game.

If it were KC or JAX, I'd be more concerned about starters being pulled. They should actually care about this game.
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:26 PM   #14
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Well if Houston loses ( and we win) we get the #1 seed.

The bad side of that would be if NE wins then they get the #2 over Houston ( head to head record). This would ALMOST be enough to want Houston to win.

Almost!

Screw it I want the #1 seed no matter what.

And New England COULD lose to the Jets.....

( RIGHT! I mean RRRRRRIIIIGGGGHHHHTTTT. Really)

Does anyone think that team ( jets) and coach can win in foxboro in December?


So win next week and see where we are. Don't let KC screw things up.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:09 PM   #15
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I don't know why anybody would the Broncos to have the #2 seed vs the #1 seed. If it stayed put now, if NE wins their 1st round game, they still come to Denver. If they had the #2 seed and us the #1 seed, NE still comes to Denver. And we would NEVER have to go to Houston. Give me that #1 seed and who cares what NE does.

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Old 12-23-2012, 06:13 PM   #16
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I know Pagano is coming back, but do the Colts have anything to play for?

It is my understanding they are locked in at the 5 seed and that wont change regardless of next week's outcome

I hope they dont ease up on the gas

Texans look very vulnerable right now
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:58 PM   #17
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It just might happen how each team is playing. Colts playing at home might have different outcome. Colts were like our losses when they played the Texans. Falling behind early to only rally but come up short.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:58 PM   #18
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Good call HAT. Didnt think it was realistic...props to you.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:06 PM   #19
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It was never a prediction....I was just telling you all you were rooting for the wrong team HOU/NE
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Rooting for HOU in that game was still the right call IMO.

If HOU wins that game, we lock up the #2 seed with a win today. We're still at risk of falling to #3 and playing in New England.
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Rooting for HOU in that game was still the right call IMO.

If HOU wins that game, we lock up the #2 seed with a win today. We're still at risk of falling to #3 and playing in New England.
Not correct. If Houston won, they would have clinched the first seed. Since NE won as well today, it is impossible for the Broncos to clinch the second seed this week. The Houston loss still keeps the first seed in play though, so the Vikings winning was the preferable outcome.
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Not correct. If Houston won, they would have clinched the first seed. Since NE won as well today, it is impossible for the Broncos to clinch the second seed this week. The Houston loss still keeps the first seed in play though, so the Vikings winning was the preferable outcome.
If NE loses that game, they are two games behind Denver coming into today.
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Who knows. Maybe we can steal that #1 seed.
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It looks like Indy is the #5 seed no matter what happens - they don't have anything to play for next week against Houston (according to Yahoo scenario tool).
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If Texans lose and Pats win next week the Pats are the #2 and Texans are the #3. Pats will get the bye. Would we rather have the Texans win? I'm thinking we would rather stay at the 2 spot and Texans at the 1 to force the Pats to play the week before then come to Denver.
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