POLL: Harbaugh benching Smith in favor of Kaepernick - The Orange Mane

baja · 11-22-2012, 04:36 PM

Good move or Bad move?

OK fixed it.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 11-22-2012, 04:44 PM

This is the last year of Smith. If he wins the Super Bowl he stays. If he went to the playoffs and lost in the championship game he's done. Even going to SB and losing he's done. No 7 mil roster bonus in April and its off to a new team. I do not see Smith winning a SB. He manages games and that's it. Rarely completes passes downfield. Watching miner games you can see once he is behind its hard for them to comeback.

I thought he still wasn't cleared to play. Give the back up a look on the road. The only position that is weak on that team is QB and if it makes you better why not

HAT · 11-22-2012, 04:48 PM

It's an excellent move.

BroncoBuff · 11-22-2012, 04:47 PM

Like I just mentioned in the other thread on this same topic ... good move giving Kaepernick a start at this point, but bad move actually naming him the starter.

Hamrob · 11-22-2012, 05:04 PM

The kid played in one game...and caught the apposing team off guard. What has he done besides that one game? Smith isn't spectacular...but, his QB rating was top 5. I don't think you bench your vet after an injury...and force guys to take sides in the locker room. Harbaugh should know better.

Now, Smith knows that you're not in his corner. If Kaepernack falls on his ass...Harbaugh is screwed.

errand · 11-22-2012, 05:30 PM

Smith probably knew Harbaugh wasn't completely in his corner when he didn't sign him before last season was over and Alex was leading his team to NFC title bout....and was resigned only after Manning rejected the 49ers.

rugbythug · 11-22-2012, 05:35 PM

Kaepernick is not a Rookie.

HAT · 11-22-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rugbythug

Kaepernick is not a Rookie.

Baja is a hippie and does copious amounts of drugs....You have to let minor details slide with him most of the time.

baja · 11-22-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HAT

Baja is a hippie and does copious amounts of drugs....You have to let minor details slide with him most of the time.

I don't do drugs

any more.

Play2win · 11-22-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

I don't do drugs

any more.

...or less than you used to.

baja · 11-22-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunk idiot kicker

...or less than you used to.

Anything concocted by man I don't put into my body except the occasion Aspirin

theAPAOps5 · 11-22-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rugbythug

Kaepernick is not a Rookie.

This and the signs were clear Smith was on borrowed time in San Fran. But still surprised they made move to Kaepernick. Switching starter mid season while still in the playoff hunt (in their case leading the division) is risky. Just ask Shanny

Requiem · 11-22-2012, 05:36 PM

Alex Smith has been terrible is whole career until a decent year this year and last. Threw for over 3,000 once and has never had 20 TDs. Any good QB in the NFL has done just as much as Smith in half the time. Dude sucks.

Kaylore · 11-22-2012, 06:04 PM

Everyone > Alex Smith

Jay3 · 11-22-2012, 08:08 PM

Kap's legs look funny. Like they might break or something. Thanks.

BroncoBuff · 11-22-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

Anything concocted by man I don't put into my body except the occasion Aspirin

If he were to live in the United States, the Most Interesting Man in the World would reside in one of two states only: Washington or Colorado ... the only two that permit legal recreational use of cannabis. While drinking Dos Eqqis.

baja · 11-22-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

If he were to live in the United States, the Most Interesting Man in the World would reside in one of two states only: Washington or Colorado ... the only two that permit legal recreational use of cannabis. While drinking Dos Eqqis.

Us Messakins don't need on stinken permission

BroncoBuff · 11-22-2012, 08:31 PM

I can't believe Harbaugh officially name him "the starter." Success must have gone to his head, because that's a a plainly foolish thing to do.

ZONA · 11-23-2012, 12:19 AM

Most of the guys on NFL Network think it was the wrong move also. Colin may have more upside then Smith but, like they say, it's a huge risk. You know what you get with Smith, he'll give you some plays, maybe not as much as some other great QB's, but he's probably not going to make many mistakes to cost you game either. And ALOT of players don't like it when you lose your job due to an injury, especially if you are ready to go the following week. Could be some locker room issues with this decision if Colin doesn't churn out some wins. It's not like Smith was out for 6 games and the guy replacing him was lights out for half a season or something. We're talking 1 friggin game. Clearly this is Harbaugh saying Smith was "not my guy" like so many of these coaches do today. Their ego gets in the way. Should make the Saints game much more fun to watch now.

Natedog24 · 11-23-2012, 02:37 AM

I'll give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt at this point in his coaching career. I don't think he has made a single mistake yet, literally everything he has touched has turned to gold.

Cito Pelon · 11-23-2012, 11:25 AM

Dunno if it was a good move or not, but you could see it coming at some point. Smith is a meh kind of QB, then you have Kaepernick who Harbaugh traded UP for (Denver's #36). I was hoping Denver would grab Kaepernick in round 2. Gonna be interesting to me to see how it works out. Denver got The Dream (#45) and Quinton Carter (#108) out of the deal.

Kaylore · 11-23-2012, 06:46 AM

I don't have a problem with this. However the majority clearly does. The majority also has yet to explain why. Harbaugh was a QB, so don't tell me he doesn't understand the weight of the decision. When your QB destroys the best defense in the league on national TV, how to go back to the guy who was there before you arrived and you have no vested interest in? Someone please tell me why this was a bad decision.

baja · 11-23-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I don't have a problem with this. However the majority clearly does. The majority also has yet to explain why. Harbaugh was a QB, so don't tell me he doesn't understand the weight of the decision. When your QB destroys the best defense in the league on national TV, how to go back to the guy who was there before you arrived and you have no vested interest in? Someone please tell me why this was a bad decision.

It's the same issue as when Shanahan started Griese over Brister or Cutler over Plummer when the team was 7 and 3.

1. It divides the locker room

2. It destroys the confidence of the guy benched

3. Team is on a playoff run and is winning why fix what isn't broken

4. Most importantly why make a big deal out of it and name the new guy your starter to the press? All he had to do was say is he was concerned about the long term health of Smith and did not want to rush him back. Everyone would except that and he'd get mad respect for it and if the new guy tore it up on the field he could squeeze another week out of the situation, going forward he could say he was playing the best player. Easy, he gets a risk free change

RaiderH8r · 11-23-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

It's the same issue as when Shanahan started Griese over Brister or Cutler over Plummer when the team was 7 and 3.

1. It divides the locker room

2. It destroys the confidence of the guy benched

3. Team is on a playoff run and is winning why fix what isn't broken

4. Most importantly why make a big deal out of it and name the new guy your starter to the press? All he had to do was say is he was concerned about the long term health of Smith and did not want to rush him back. Everyone would except that and he'd get mad respect for it and if the new guy tore it up on the field he could squeeze another week out of the situation, going forward he could say he was playing the best player. Easy, he gets a risk free change

Well said. The Cutler-Plummer switch ran us out of the playoffs that year. It will be interesting to watch this play out. But yeah, Harbaugh could have had it both ways by giving Kaepernick the start under the guise of player protection.

theAPAOps5 · 11-23-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I don't have a problem with this. However the majority clearly does. The majority also has yet to explain why. Harbaugh was a QB, so don't tell me he doesn't understand the weight of the decision. When your QB destroys the best defense in the league on national TV, how to go back to the guy who was there before you arrived and you have no vested interest in? Someone please tell me why this was a bad decision.

I explained why I disagree, on the first page. It isn't about ability its about the timing.

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11-22-2012, 04:36 PM	#1
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in a bunker Posts: 54,394 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius Thomas	POLL: Harbaugh benching Smith in favor of Kaepernick Good move or Bad move? OK fixed it. Last edited by baja; 11-22-2012 at 06:45 PM..

11-22-2012, 04:44 PM	#2
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,609 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	This is the last year of Smith. If he wins the Super Bowl he stays. If he went to the playoffs and lost in the championship game he's done. Even going to SB and losing he's done. No 7 mil roster bonus in April and its off to a new team. I do not see Smith winning a SB. He manages games and that's it. Rarely completes passes downfield. Watching miner games you can see once he is behind its hard for them to comeback. I thought he still wasn't cleared to play. Give the back up a look on the road. The only position that is weak on that team is QB and if it makes you better why not

11-22-2012, 04:48 PM	#3
HAT I think, therefore I ham. Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,721 Adopt-a-Bronco: Adam Weber	It's an excellent move.

11-22-2012, 04:47 PM	#4
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,470 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Like I just mentioned in the other thread on this same topic ... good move giving Kaepernick a start at this point, but bad move actually naming him the starter.

11-22-2012, 05:04 PM	#5
Hamrob All-American! All-American! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DFW Posts: 4,756 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	The kid played in one game...and caught the apposing team off guard. What has he done besides that one game? Smith isn't spectacular...but, his QB rating was top 5. I don't think you bench your vet after an injury...and force guys to take sides in the locker room. Harbaugh should know better. Now, Smith knows that you're not in his corner. If Kaepernack falls on his ass...Harbaugh is screwed.

11-22-2012, 05:30 PM	#6
errand Ring of Famer Forgot more than you'll ever know Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Western NC mountains Posts: 15,310	Smith probably knew Harbaugh wasn't completely in his corner when he didn't sign him before last season was over and Alex was leading his team to NFC title bout....and was resigned only after Manning rejected the 49ers.

11-22-2012, 05:35 PM	#7
rugbythug Church Eyes. Salty Dog Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Miller	Kaepernick is not a Rookie.

11-22-2012, 05:36 PM	#13
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Alex Smith has been terrible is whole career until a decent year this year and last. Threw for over 3,000 once and has never had 20 TDs. Any good QB in the NFL has done just as much as Smith in half the time. Dude sucks.

11-22-2012, 06:04 PM	#14
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,343 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Everyone > Alex Smith

11-22-2012, 08:08 PM	#15
Jay3 Sad Elway Ah . . . no. Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,410 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Kap's legs look funny. Like they might break or something. Thanks.

11-22-2012, 08:31 PM	#18
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,470 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	I can't believe Harbaugh officially name him "the starter." Success must have gone to his head, because that's a a plainly foolish thing to do.

11-23-2012, 12:19 AM	#19
ZONA Ring of Famer If you smacked your screen, hahaha Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,500 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Most of the guys on NFL Network think it was the wrong move also. Colin may have more upside then Smith but, like they say, it's a huge risk. You know what you get with Smith, he'll give you some plays, maybe not as much as some other great QB's, but he's probably not going to make many mistakes to cost you game either. And ALOT of players don't like it when you lose your job due to an injury, especially if you are ready to go the following week. Could be some locker room issues with this decision if Colin doesn't churn out some wins. It's not like Smith was out for 6 games and the guy replacing him was lights out for half a season or something. We're talking 1 friggin game. Clearly this is Harbaugh saying Smith was "not my guy" like so many of these coaches do today. Their ego gets in the way. Should make the Saints game much more fun to watch now.

11-23-2012, 02:37 AM	#20
Natedog24 Ring of Famer Win The Day Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,188 Adopt-a-Bronco: JeremiahJohnson	I'll give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt at this point in his coaching career. I don't think he has made a single mistake yet, literally everything he has touched has turned to gold.

11-23-2012, 11:25 AM	#21
Cito Pelon Attack at all times . . . Happy dog at the Divide Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AFC West Championshipville Posts: 15,273 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Dunno if it was a good move or not, but you could see it coming at some point. Smith is a meh kind of QB, then you have Kaepernick who Harbaugh traded UP for (Denver's #36). I was hoping Denver would grab Kaepernick in round 2. Gonna be interesting to me to see how it works out. Denver got The Dream (#45) and Quinton Carter (#108) out of the deal.

11-23-2012, 06:46 AM	#22
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,343 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I don't have a problem with this. However the majority clearly does. The majority also has yet to explain why. Harbaugh was a QB, so don't tell me he doesn't understand the weight of the decision. When your QB destroys the best defense in the league on national TV, how to go back to the guy who was there before you arrived and you have no vested interest in? Someone please tell me why this was a bad decision.