Moreno get to tear the Chiefs up ? - The Orange Mane

Jetmeck · 11-18-2012, 11:07 PM

If wILLIS IS Down a week or two put Moreno in there, he seems to play his best against the Chiefs..................?

cutthemdown · 11-18-2012, 11:12 PM

Looks to me like he's behind Hillman and Ball in the pecking order. I don't think Moreno totes the rock for Denver ever again unless more rbs go down. He's done in Denver and most likely the NFL also.

TonyR · 11-19-2012, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

I don't think Moreno totes the rock for Denver ever again unless more rbs go down. He's done in Denver and most likely the NFL also.

Well now this is just a bit overly dramatic. If McGahee is out this week expect Moreno to suit up and play.

Jetmeck · 11-19-2012, 12:20 AM

IF Mcgahee is down a week or two will see if Moreno is done or not.

extralife · 11-19-2012, 01:04 AM

I don't think we're going to give Ball or Hillman McGahee type caries. Moreno will get his chance.

cutthemdown · 11-19-2012, 01:24 AM

The coaching staff doesn't trust Moreno. Broncos will give 10-12 carries to Hillman, and 5-8 carries to Ball, and throw the ball 5-10 times more a game. I don't see Moreno all the sudden being part of the attack. He may get activated and get in if another rb gets injured, but not yet.

DBroncos4life · 11-19-2012, 01:34 AM

Anyone else notice that Hillman got the last three carries to end the game despite being smaller then Ball? Says a lot about Ball IMO.

misturanderson · 11-19-2012, 02:11 AM

With how generally ineffective both Ball and Hillman have been, I don't see how they couldn't at least give Moreno a chance. If they are that worried about fumbles, McGahee would have been benched and so would Ball. Hell, half the team would be benched.

mhgaffney · 11-19-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by misturanderson

With how generally ineffective both Ball and Hillman have been, I don't see how they couldn't at least give Moreno a chance. If they are that worried about fumbles, McGahee would have been benched and so would Ball. Hell, half the team would be benched.

huh? I think Hillman's loooked pretty dang good. The kid can scat and is very elusive.

Agamemnon · 11-19-2012, 04:18 PM

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huh? I think Hillman's loooked pretty dang good. The kid can scat and is very elusive.

What's your definition of elusive? Because I'm still waiting for the guy to make somebody miss in the open field.

Bacchus · 11-19-2012, 04:58 PM

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What's your definition of elusive? Because I'm still waiting for the guy to make somebody miss in the open field.

EXACTLY!! He has not shown anything yet. He has two big runs where there were huge holes. He has not run through a tackle or made anyone miss yet. Hopefully, it will come but I think right now Moreno is the better back and I would like Johnson to come off the practice squad and get a look.

broncosteven · 11-19-2012, 05:53 PM

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EXACTLY!! He has not shown anything yet. He has two big runs where there were huge holes. He has not run through a tackle or made anyone miss yet. Hopefully, it will come but I think right now Moreno is the better back and I would like Johnson to come off the practice squad and get a look.

You got to look at the positives, he doesn't trip over his own feet when he has those wide open lanes or run up his blockers backs.

Trying to run Hillman inside near the goalline or short yardage is sad. I would give Gronk a couple carries before I tried that again.

It was sad that Willis went down because the way he was running he would have had over 150 yards yesterday.

fontaine · 11-19-2012, 04:01 AM

If Willis misses time, I'm definitely not looking forward to watching Moreno run straight into his blockers.

Agamemnon · 11-19-2012, 05:25 AM

He's been disappointing for a 1st round pick, no doubt about it, but I'll never understand why people act like Moreno is the worst running back in Broncos history. He's sure as hell better than Ball.

Beantown Bronco · 11-19-2012, 06:14 AM

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He's been disappointing for a 1st round pick, no doubt about it, but I'll never understand why people act like Moreno is the worst running back in Broncos history. He's sure as hell better than Ball.

This.

Almost 2700 combined rushing and receiving yards and 19 TDs in just over 2 seasons of work behind what was at the time unquestionably one of the worst run blocking lines and worst running schemes in the entire league.

The guy is not worthless. Call me when Ball or Hillman get anywhere near that kind of production.

BroncoDoom · 11-19-2012, 07:42 AM

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This.

Almost 2700 combined rushing and receiving yards and 19 TDs in just over 2 seasons of work behind what was at the time unquestionably one of the worst run blocking lines and worst running schemes in the entire league.

The guy is not worthless. Call me when Ball or Hillman get anywhere near that kind of production.

This^^^

Don't get the hate at all...and would not be surprised if we all are just clueless on this situation. Moreno is coming back from a serious knee injury... who is to say the coaches aren't saving him for the playoffs and letting that knee get 100%?

Drunken.Broncoholic · 11-19-2012, 07:53 AM

Moreno will be out there. No way hillman can carry a load. Chances one of them gets hurt for a couple series of possessions is pretty high.

You see how front and center Moreno was in fox's post game locker room speech? His pants were half off. He's ready to do business.

razorwire77 · 11-19-2012, 08:17 AM

I still think Hillman has quite a bit of potential. He clearly doesn't know the offense well yet, and he doesn't have the strength to consistently grind it out between the tackles, but he certainly can catch an edge and break some big runs in space. He's also made some big 3rd down catches this year, including yesterday.

As far as Moreno goes, I think he's a better pure runner than Ball. My guess is he's active against the Chefs and will get 5-8 carries. Assuming Willis can't play Hillman = 10-12 carries, Ball 5-8 carries, Moreno 5-8 carries.

loborugger · 11-19-2012, 06:21 AM

Hopefully Moreno can stay uninjured just long enough for Willis to heal. This a 50/50 proposition.

BroncoFiend · 11-19-2012, 06:32 AM

There is a reason Moreno is still on the roster. He has been deactivated because he is not effective on special teams, but if McGahee is out, he will split carries with Hillman at a minimum.

broncosteven · 11-19-2012, 11:02 AM

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There is a reason Moreno is still on the roster. He has been deactivated because he is not effective on THE team, but if McGahee is out, he will split carries with Hillman at a minimum.

Fixed it for you

strafen · 11-19-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetmeck

If wILLIS IS Down a week or two put Moreno in there, he seems to play his best against the Chiefs..................?

Popps?!!!!

Broncos_OTM · 11-19-2012, 08:20 AM

If morenos attitude is good. I'm alright with him playing. We have a known quantity this year with the guys we have. i'd like to see moreno. Kuper though is key. And this team really really misses jd walton

Pony Boy · 11-19-2012, 08:25 AM

Can't take a chance with Moreno on passing downs unless it's a screen to him because if he's rusty, misses a blitz pickup and Manning gets blown up, the season is over. At this point it's all about keeping Manning healthy for the playoffs.

cmhargrove · 11-19-2012, 08:44 AM

Moreno is definitely on my **** list, but there's also a reason we haven't cut him outright. We were keeping him in case Willis got hurt, and it looks like that time may be now. Let him take as many reps as we can get out of him and get McGahee healthy for the playoff run. The guy has to know his career is on the line, and I love a guy playing with desperation.

Ride that horse until it dies. Then dump it after the season...

11-18-2012, 11:07 PM	#1
Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,381	Moreno get to tear the Chiefs up ? If wILLIS IS Down a week or two put Moreno in there, he seems to play his best against the Chiefs..................?

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11-18-2012, 11:12 PM	#2
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,443	Looks to me like he's behind Hillman and Ball in the pecking order. I don't think Moreno totes the rock for Denver ever again unless more rbs go down. He's done in Denver and most likely the NFL also.

11-19-2012, 12:20 AM	#4
Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,381	IF Mcgahee is down a week or two will see if Moreno is done or not.

11-19-2012, 01:04 AM	#5
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,896	I don't think we're going to give Ball or Hillman McGahee type caries. Moreno will get his chance.

11-19-2012, 01:24 AM	#6
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,443	The coaching staff doesn't trust Moreno. Broncos will give 10-12 carries to Hillman, and 5-8 carries to Ball, and throw the ball 5-10 times more a game. I don't see Moreno all the sudden being part of the attack. He may get activated and get in if another rb gets injured, but not yet.

11-19-2012, 01:34 AM	#7
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,531	Anyone else notice that Hillman got the last three carries to end the game despite being smaller then Ball? Says a lot about Ball IMO.

11-19-2012, 02:11 AM	#8
misturanderson Ring of Famer Why not? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FoCo Posts: 1,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: DemaryiusThomas	With how generally ineffective both Ball and Hillman have been, I don't see how they couldn't at least give Moreno a chance. If they are that worried about fumbles, McGahee would have been benched and so would Ball. Hell, half the team would be benched.

11-19-2012, 04:01 AM	#13
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,422	If Willis misses time, I'm definitely not looking forward to watching Moreno run straight into his blockers.

11-19-2012, 05:25 AM	#14
Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,429 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	He's been disappointing for a 1st round pick, no doubt about it, but I'll never understand why people act like Moreno is the worst running back in Broncos history. He's sure as hell better than Ball.

11-19-2012, 07:53 AM	#17
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,227 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	Moreno will be out there. No way hillman can carry a load. Chances one of them gets hurt for a couple series of possessions is pretty high. You see how front and center Moreno was in fox's post game locker room speech? His pants were half off. He's ready to do business.

11-19-2012, 08:17 AM	#18
razorwire77 Tapenade Swagga Splotchy Headed Assassin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 3,246 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mario Fannin	I still think Hillman has quite a bit of potential. He clearly doesn't know the offense well yet, and he doesn't have the strength to consistently grind it out between the tackles, but he certainly can catch an edge and break some big runs in space. He's also made some big 3rd down catches this year, including yesterday. As far as Moreno goes, I think he's a better pure runner than Ball. My guess is he's active against the Chefs and will get 5-8 carries. Assuming Willis can't play Hillman = 10-12 carries, Ball 5-8 carries, Moreno 5-8 carries.

11-19-2012, 06:21 AM	#19
loborugger lost in the ether Did we finally get a FB??? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 'cuse Posts: 5,783 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Hopefully Moreno can stay uninjured just long enough for Willis to heal. This a 50/50 proposition.

11-19-2012, 06:32 AM	#20
BroncoFiend Ring of Famer The enemy's gate is down Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,505 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	There is a reason Moreno is still on the roster. He has been deactivated because he is not effective on special teams, but if McGahee is out, he will split carries with Hillman at a minimum.

11-19-2012, 08:20 AM	#23
Broncos_OTM Born Again HOOLIGAN Broncos Over All Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,537 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	If morenos attitude is good. I'm alright with him playing. We have a known quantity this year with the guys we have. i'd like to see moreno. Kuper though is key. And this team really really misses jd walton

11-19-2012, 08:25 AM	#24
Pony Boy "Whoa Nellie" Rub some dirt on it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,292 Adopt-a-Bronco: mellon head	Can't take a chance with Moreno on passing downs unless it's a screen to him because if he's rusty, misses a blitz pickup and Manning gets blown up, the season is over. At this point it's all about keeping Manning healthy for the playoffs.

11-19-2012, 08:44 AM	#25
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,403 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Moreno is definitely on my **** list, but there's also a reason we haven't cut him outright. We were keeping him in case Willis got hurt, and it looks like that time may be now. Let him take as many reps as we can get out of him and get McGahee healthy for the playoff run. The guy has to know his career is on the line, and I love a guy playing with desperation. Ride that horse until it dies. Then dump it after the season...