DJ's return - The Orange Mane

JCMElway · 11-12-2012, 03:41 PM

Where to put him? Joe mays is out for the year (I know you're all heart-broken), so we can definitely use him. It would seem that we have the most need at MLB. Woodyard and Von are playing at such a high level, he won't push them aside.

Brooking is currently starting at Mike and being backed up by Steven Johnson. DJ probably will not be quite so quick on the draw as he has been, so MLB would seem to fit his skill set best at this point. The question is, does DJ return to the starting lineup for the majority of snaps? Or does he see spot duty in certain situations?

What is DJ's role going forward?

Discuss.

Paladin · 11-12-2012, 03:44 PM

I predict spot duty for a couple of weeks, at least. Others are playing well right now.. Who gets cut on the 53 to bring him on?

JCMElway · 11-12-2012, 03:46 PM

Caleb Hanie!!

Atwater His Ass · 11-12-2012, 03:47 PM

Make him earn a starting spot back. The D is in a good place right now, it would upset the chemistry and morale to just hand a guy coming of a 9 week suspension a starting role without earning it.

DJ can have an immediate impact playing special teams and rotation duty on the D, cover guy in a nickel situation.

razorwire77 · 11-12-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

Make him earn a starting spot back. The D is in a good place right now, it would upset the chemistry and morale to just hand a guy coming of a 9 week suspension a starting role without earning it.

DJ can have an immediate impact playing special teams and rotation duty on the D, cover guy in a nickel situation.

This. Make the guy earn it. Have him play special teams, put him in certain blitz packages, but this defense is in a good place. Don't **** it up.

bowtown · 11-12-2012, 03:48 PM

In b4 lonelystar takes a dump.

lonestar · 11-12-2012, 10:49 PM

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In b4 lonelystar takes a dump.

Oh so cute. What are you 12 or 13. Just another juvenile post.

JCMElway · 11-12-2012, 03:48 PM

Or we could cut Andre Caldwell. Waste of space so far....

swaiy · 11-12-2012, 03:58 PM

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Or we could cut Andre Caldwell. Waste of space so far....

Yeah, it would be a great idea to cut WR depth...

Drunken.Broncoholic · 11-12-2012, 04:01 PM

If they aren't going to use Knowshoe drop that boy.

Lestat · 11-12-2012, 04:02 PM

i don't know that i want him anywhere near MLB. he can't make calls.
he struggled badly with that last time he was the MLB.
he needs to be the WLB. as much as i love Woodyard and his play DJ is our best LB, Von is a beast but not a true full on LB yet.

IHaveALight · 11-12-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i don't know that i want him anywhere near MLB. he can't make calls.
he struggled badly with that last time he was the MLB.
he needs to be the WLB. as much as i love Woodyard and his play DJ is our best LB, Von is a beast but not a true full on LB yet.

Seriously? Show me when DJ had a better season than Woody is having right now.

DBroncos4life · 11-12-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IHaveALight

Seriously? Show me when DJ had a better season than Woody is having right now.

Show us when DJ played on a D this good before? WW should still start and play a ton but lets not act like we have had a D this good in years with a DC that knows a thing or two about LBs. WW has his limitations as well. Two weeks ago he was getting beat pretty bad against the Bengals with RBs out of the backfield. I think they can both work on the field together in packages.

IHaveALight · 11-12-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Show us when DJ played on a D this good before? WW should still start and play a ton but lets not act like we have had a D this good in years with a DC that knows a thing or two about LBs. WW has his limitations as well. Two weeks ago he was getting beat pretty bad against the Bengals with RBs out of the backfield. I think they can both work on the field together in packages.

I guess this explains why Woody was more productive than DJ last year too...

I don't get it, DJ has always been an above average player, nothing more, but yet people around here still think he's a good to great player. And I just have to shake my head at people who say he's the best overall linebacker on our team. Von is better than DJ in all three linebacker fazes. Rushing the passer, stopping the run and even in pass coverage. And he's far better at causing turnovers. It's not even close who the best linebacker on the team is.

DBroncos4life · 11-12-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by IHaveALight

I guess this explains why Woody was more productive than DJ last year too...

I don't get it, DJ has always been an above average player, nothing more, but yet people around here still think he's a good to great player. And I just have to shake my head at people who say he's the best overall linebacker on our team. Von is better than DJ in all three linebacker fazes. Rushing the passer, stopping the run and even in pass coverage. And he's far better at causing turnovers. It's not even close who the best linebacker on the team is.

More productive? DJ had more sacks and same amount of FF. DJ does things WW doesn't just like WW does things better then DJ. It's not that hard to understand.

If DJ is an above average LB so is WW which is perfectly OK with me. As for the rest of that crap you posted not a single person thinks DJ is better then Miller. Why you even typed that I have no clue.

BroncoMan4ever · 11-12-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i don't know that i want him anywhere near MLB. he can't make calls.
he struggled badly with that last time he was the MLB.
he needs to be the WLB. as much as i love Woodyard and his play DJ is our best LB, Von is a beast but not a true full on LB yet.

Woodyard is playing at a higher level than DJ has in recent seasons. DJ is not taking back that spot. When he retirns he needs to get used to situational work and working on taking over the MLB

Lestat · 11-12-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

Woodyard is playing at a higher level than DJ has in recent seasons. DJ is not taking back that spot. When he retirns he needs to get used to situational work and working on taking over the MLB

i don't see him being the MLB unless the defense is so different that the calls are simplified and he won't struggle with him.
he's not gonna take the SLB job from Von, he's not a MLB and he's always been best at WLB.

i love what Woodyard is doing but i don't see him holding off DJ for very long.

BroncoMan4ever · 11-12-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i don't see him being the MLB unless the defense is so different that the calls are simplified and he won't struggle with him.
he's not gonna take the SLB job from Von, he's not a MLB and he's always been best at WLB.

i love what Woodyard is doing but i don't see him holding off DJ for very long.

MLB is the only spot that can be upgraded with his presence. At WLB with the way Woodyard has played would not be an upgrade and at best would be an equal swap. If he can't take over from old man Brooking, he doesn't deserve to play anything but Special Teams and in situational packages

ZONA · 11-13-2012, 01:55 AM

Just curious, is there a rule that the MLB has to be the one calling the plays?

I don't expect DJ to start right away. They will ease him back into the mix the 1st week by giving him rotational work. In the second week I expect he will do the same thing but more of it, I also expect them to experiment some with a 3-4 package. By his 3rd week back, I expect he will be playing MLB and splitting time with Brooking. 4th week I expect he is starting at MLB.

lonestar · 11-13-2012, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZONA

Just curious, is there a rule that the MLB has to be the one calling the plays?

I don't expect DJ to start right away. They will ease him back into the mix the 1st week by giving him rotational work. In the second week I expect he will do the same thing but more of it, I also expect them to experiment some with a 3-4 package. By his 3rd week back, I expect he will be playing MLB and splitting time with Brooking. 4th week I expect he is starting at MLB.

Dream on.

Other than show casing him for trade value or injury he will see very little playing time.

Let your bromance go he is toast next year no way they keep the dumb ass for 6 mil.

mkporter · 11-12-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i don't know that i want him anywhere near MLB. he can't make calls.
he struggled badly with that last time he was the MLB.
he needs to be the WLB. as much as i love Woodyard and his play DJ is our best LB, Von is a beast but not a true full on LB yet.

Is there anyone else who actually agrees with the statement? In what regard is DJ a better linebacker? Maybe pass coverage. Maybe. It isn't even close as a pass rusher or run defender.

CBF1 · 11-12-2012, 09:59 PM

DJ can play where ever they need him.... But it does not mean he has to be calling out the defensive plays. Someone else that is better versed in the new defense will call the plays.

lonestar · 11-12-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

DJ can play where ever they need him.... But it does not mean he has to be calling out the defensive plays. Someone else that is better versed in the new defense will call the plays.

But then he would also have to know what those plays are. Not to mention the other Front Seven already know them.

I just do not understand why some want to make changes to something that is working pretty damned good since Brooking came in.

lonestar · 11-12-2012, 11:21 PM

I posted this in another thread thought it was pertinent to this thread..

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i can't wait to see this defense once DJ gets back on the field. Woodyard has been playing lights out but man, DJ will make a huge impact for us at the LB position.

HOW?

The way our LBs have been playing who is he going to replace? Who are you going to take off the field to sub him in for?
Miller? Not happening..
Woodyard? Ditto
Brooking? no way..

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Keep in mind that the unit has been very successful and has developed communication and unity - and DJ has been no part of that. I think that he's going to be a street veteran in the off season at the very best.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...-lard#comments

Seems to me I heard that when he comes back he is taking a hit in his paycheck, if they really thought he had something to offer other than depth they would not have ask him to re-do his contract for less money..

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CHARLOTTE N.C. — D.J. Williams will officially return Monday to the Broncos after the two sides recently agreed to a restructuring of his contract.

Williams, who had been a starting linebacker since the Broncos selected him with their first-round draft pick in 2004, had already lost nearly $3 million in salary this year as part of his penalty for serving two suspensions that prevented him from playing in the team's first nine games this year.

Given the considerable time he has missed — Broncos coach John Fox decided not to have him participate in training camp or preseason games so he could instead give reps and playing time to others — Williams is expected to use the first week or two getting back in playing shape.

Read more: Denver Broncos linebacker D.J. Williams to return to team Monday - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz2Bzg38w73

"Sorry Charlie Sunkist only wants Prime Tuna"..

DJ ain't all that..

theAPAOps5 · 11-12-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i don't know that i want him anywhere near MLB. he can't make calls.
he struggled badly with that last time he was the MLB.
he needs to be the WLB. as much as i love Woodyard and his play DJ is our best LB, Von is a beast but not a true full on LB yet.

Between this and Porter you sure are for removing our best playing defenders right now. Are you Shanahan?

11-12-2012, 03:41 PM	#1
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,867 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	DJ's return Where to put him? Joe mays is out for the year (I know you're all heart-broken), so we can definitely use him. It would seem that we have the most need at MLB. Woodyard and Von are playing at such a high level, he won't push them aside. Brooking is currently starting at Mike and being backed up by Steven Johnson. DJ probably will not be quite so quick on the draw as he has been, so MLB would seem to fit his skill set best at this point. The question is, does DJ return to the starting lineup for the majority of snaps? Or does he see spot duty in certain situations? What is DJ's role going forward? Discuss.

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11-12-2012, 03:44 PM	#2
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	I predict spot duty for a couple of weeks, at least. Others are playing well right now.. Who gets cut on the 53 to bring him on?

11-12-2012, 03:46 PM	#3
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,867 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Caleb Hanie!!

11-12-2012, 03:47 PM	#4
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Make him earn a starting spot back. The D is in a good place right now, it would upset the chemistry and morale to just hand a guy coming of a 9 week suspension a starting role without earning it. DJ can have an immediate impact playing special teams and rotation duty on the D, cover guy in a nickel situation.

11-12-2012, 03:48 PM	#6
bowtown Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,272 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	In b4 lonelystar takes a dump.

11-12-2012, 04:01 PM	#10
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,260 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	If they aren't going to use Knowshoe drop that boy.

11-12-2012, 04:02 PM	#11
Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,168	i don't know that i want him anywhere near MLB. he can't make calls. he struggled badly with that last time he was the MLB. he needs to be the WLB. as much as i love Woodyard and his play DJ is our best LB, Von is a beast but not a true full on LB yet.

11-13-2012, 01:55 AM	#19
ZONA Ring of Famer Liquid greatness in every packet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,383 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Just curious, is there a rule that the MLB has to be the one calling the plays? I don't expect DJ to start right away. They will ease him back into the mix the 1st week by giving him rotational work. In the second week I expect he will do the same thing but more of it, I also expect them to experiment some with a 3-4 package. By his 3rd week back, I expect he will be playing MLB and splitting time with Brooking. 4th week I expect he is starting at MLB.

11-12-2012, 09:59 PM	#22
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	DJ can play where ever they need him.... But it does not mean he has to be calling out the defensive plays. Someone else that is better versed in the new defense will call the plays.