Fox is such a p***Y

[ZONA]

For real dude, 9 seconds left in half. 4th and 1. The other team is NOT going to do anything if you don't get it. You give yourself a chance at a shorter FG.

I know he conservative but this to me is conservative to the point where you hurt your team.

Fox - grow a ****in pair already.

[Broncos4tw]

Eh? Smart play. Newton has a cannon for an arm. At the 50, he has a chance to get it into the endzone. A kick guarantees he doesn't. We had the lead and the kick at the half. Smart call imo.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Up by 10 on the road and getting the ball to start the half. Nothing wrong with that decision.

[Kid A]

I thought it was probably smart play there, Thomas hurt, not much momentum.

Not going on 4th and 1 (or challenging a terrible spot) with a chance to seal the game on the previous drive was much more frustrating.

[Goobzilla]

Originally Posted by Kid A

I thought it was probably smart play there, Thomas hurt, not much momentum.

Not going on 4th and 1 (or challenging a terrible spot) with a chance to seal the game on the previous drive was much more frustrating.

Still baffled he didn't challenge that spot.

[R8R H8R]

Originally Posted by Goobzilla

Still baffled he didn't challenge that spot.

I didn't think Hilman made it anyway. It probably would have been a closer 4th & 1, but if Fox was just going to kick it anyway, then it didn't matter.

[Vine]

Originally Posted by R8R H8R

I didn't think Hilman made it anyway. It probably would have been a closer 4th & 1, but if Fox was just going to kick it anyway, then it didn't matter.

The way I understand replay rules, if replay doesn't result in an adjusted spot that results in a first down, then the team loses a challenge. But there was a very good angle that looked like Hilman stretched the ball REALLY close to the 1st down line that should have at least resulted in a measurement. But if the measurement shows the ball to be inches short, Denver loses the challenge and a timeout, but is in much better position to go for it on 4th down.

[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by Goobzilla

Still baffled he didn't challenge that spot.

Challenging the spot loses a timeout and a challenge. The replay showed that while he MAY have had forward progress for the First down, odds are much greater that he would have been a little short. While they would have moved the ball, we still would have lost the challenge.

[LRtagger]

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Challenging the spot loses a timeout and a challenge. The replay showed that while he MAY have had forward progress for the First down, odds are much greater that he would have been a little short. While they would have moved the ball, we still would have lost the challenge.

No if they had changed the spot of the ball that means we would have won te challenge - whether it resulted in a first down or not.

[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by LRtagger

No if they had changed the spot of the ball that means we would have won te challenge - whether it resulted in a first down or not.

No, you lose that challenge if its not a first down. I gaurantee you that's how that works.

You can only challenge forward progress with respect to a first down. If forward progress does not result in a first down on the challenge, you lose the challenge (even if they move the ball) and lose your time out. The timeout would not have been important but the loss of the challenge may have been.

edit: Rule 3, Section 9, Part C.5

http://static.nfl.com/static/content...ule%20Book.pdf

[DENVERDUI55]

Yeah take a sack or a bunch of other bad things could happen vs the long shot of a fg in a game you are dominating. Smart play call by Fox especially in a game Denver has control in.

[doonwise]

Originally Posted by ZONA

For real dude, 9 seconds left in half. 4th and 1. The other team is NOT going to do anything if you don't get it. You give yourself a chance at a shorter FG.

I know he conservative but this to me is conservative to the point where you hurt your team.

Fox - grow a ****in pair already.

Overreact much?? I hardly think the head coach deserves to be called a pu**y for punting after his kicker just missed an easier kick. Dial it down, friend.

[Wes Mantooth]

Originally Posted by ZONA

For real dude, 9 seconds left in half. 4th and 1. The other team is NOT going to do anything if you don't get it. You give yourself a chance at a shorter FG.

I know he conservative but this to me is conservative to the point where you hurt your team.

Fox - grow a ****in pair already.

if I were your doctor, I would prescribe less madden

[Vine]

It's only a matter of time when Fox's dumbass coaching will actually cost the Broncos a game.

[doonwise]

Originally Posted by Vine

It's only a matter of time when Fox's dumbass coaching will actually cost the Broncos a game.

You can say this about any coach in the NFL.

[Vine]

Originally Posted by doonwise

You can say this about any coach in the NFL.

Fox is different though. I don't agree with his conservativeness when it comes to 2 minute situations and punt/fg/go for it decisions. He has been known to not challenge plays that have showed to be situations where a challenge might be beneficial.

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by Vine

Fox is different though. I don't agree with his conservativeness when it comes to 2 minute situations and punt/fg/go for it decisions. He has been known to not challenge plays that have showed to be situations where a challenge might be beneficial.

How about his team that has scored 10 TD's other than offense in the past 2 years? His coaching has been great and we have shown to get back into games we were down big in. Funny how you think you can call a better game than him.

[Rock Chalk]

Dumbest.Thread.Ever.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Dumbest.Thread.Ever.

This. The coach who rebuilt this team into what it is wins back to back road games, this one going away, and people are starting threads calling him a dumb ass and p***Y.

[doonwise]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

This. The coach who rebuilt this team into what it is wins back to back road games, this one going away, and people are starting threads calling him a dumb ass and p***Y.

AND after one of the most complete games I've ever seen the broncos play. Perfection doesn't exist in football and from a team perspective, it doesn't get much better than today's performance.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by doonwise

AND after one of the most complete games I've ever seen the broncos play. Perfection doesn't exist in football and from a team perspective, it doesn't get much better than today's performance.

I'm sorry, but our offensive performance was miles behind what would be needed to call this a "complete game".

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

This. The coach who rebuilt this team into what it is wins back to back road games, this one going away, and people are starting threads calling him a dumb ass and p***Y.

Reminds me of 2005, we're winning games and people were pissing and moaning on here that season.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Dumbest.Thread.Ever.

pretty close to the top of that list if not..

but consider the OP source..

[Bladerunner]

I'm not as emotional about that call as you are, but I had the same reasoning as you...I would have gone for it, under the reasoning that Carolina would have had less than 5 seconds to do anything with it...

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

I'm not as emotional about that call as you are, but I had the same reasoning as you...I would have gone for it, under the reasoning that Carolina would have had less than 5 seconds to do anything with it...

Pick 6, fumble recovery for td, sack and they get long fg try, hail mary td for newton, pi on hail mary vs possible long fg for Denver. Too much risk vs what you could get out of going for it.