NFL Still Bans Denver Broncos From Marijuana Use Even When It’s Legal; Right Or Wrong? - The Orange Mane

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-09-2012, 11:16 AM

The states of Colorado and Washington have voted to make recreational marijuana legal to 21-year-old residents as long as they only posses one ounce at a time. However, the NFL has told its players that live in these states they are not allowed to use marijuana despite the new laws. Is it right or wrong for the NFL to still make it a banned substance when it is legal in some players’ home states?

What does this mean for Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks players?

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear that these states legalizing marijuana will not change anything with the way the league handles drug testing and suspensions. Marijuana has always been on the NFL’s substance abuse list and if tested positive for marijuana, a player faces up to a four-game suspension. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says that’s not about the change

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DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-09-2012, 11:17 AM

darn shame manning cant light a doobie up after a win

STBumpkin · 11-09-2012, 11:18 AM

Military members in WA and CO cannot use it either. I agree with this, organizations should be able to make their own rules on this. I think something along the lines of our 12 hour bottle-to-brief rule should apply.

RhymesayersDU · 11-09-2012, 11:19 AM

Organizations can make rules as they see fit, IMO.

Smiling Assassin27 · 11-09-2012, 11:19 AM

what a pity. could've been a HUGE FA recruiting tool.

mwill07 · 11-09-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

what a pity. could've been a HUGE FA recruiting tool.

you know, it still may be.

If a player were driving down the road with some weed stashed in his pocket and got pulled over, any other state he's getting a ticket for possession which will make it to the teams attention, and he gets suspended.

In Colorado, the cop may issue a ticket for speeding, but possession of the weed will never make it to the police blotter...The NFL random drug testers are the only ones the players will have to look out for.

Further, all of the players family/friends/agents/hangers-on/etc. will be free to smoke whatever they want, so they've got that goin' for them.

sgbfan · 11-09-2012, 11:19 AM

I agree with it. Its an unfair competitive advantage. Think of the FA signings we could get!

DBroncos4life · 11-09-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sgbfan

I agree with it. Its an unfair competitive advantage. Think of the FA signings we could get!

How is it any different then the states that have no state sales taxes or other tax laws that favor the rich?

Man-Goblin · 11-09-2012, 11:19 AM

No fun league.

Al Wilson · 11-09-2012, 11:22 AM

NFL is its own league, and every player that is in the league has to follow its rules. Simple as it is.

socalorado · 11-09-2012, 11:25 AM

What about employers hiring in these states?
Do they have the same standards that the military and Soprts organizations have?

Beantown Bronco · 11-09-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

What about employers hiring in these states?
Do they have the same standards that the military and Soprts organizations have?

They need to check their employment contracts, collective bargaining agreements, etc. Everyone in the private sector is different.

socalorado · 11-09-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

They need to check their employment contracts, collective bargaining agreements, etc. Everyone in the private sector is different.

So Police, Fire, Nurses, Dr.s can be stoned on the job if its part of their union or employment contracts?
Just asking. I really dont know.

Beantown Bronco · 11-09-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

So Police, Fire, Nurses, Dr.s can be stoned on the job if its part of their union or employment contracts?
Just asking. I really dont know.

Technically, yes, but it would NEVER be written in to a union contract for those types of workers that doing so was acceptable. One thing those folks will always have to concede as point #1 in their negotiation of those contracts are related to consequences of finding any trace of drugs (legal or not), alcohol, etc. in their blood while on the job.

socalorado · 11-09-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Technically, yes, but it would NEVER be written in to a union contract for those types of workers. One thing those folks will always have to concede as point #1 in their negotiation of those contracts are related to any trace of drugs, alcohol, etc. in their blood.....legal or not.

That doesnt make sense.
If its a legal right to smoke weed in COLO and the union says its legal for their employess as part of collective barganing to smoke weed, then all of their union employees should be able to smoke weed. Period. Its legal.
Its just like booze. Its legal, and in their off-time they smoke weed.
Cause they can, cause its legal.

Broncolt · 11-14-2012, 03:43 PM

i think its right. although its legal in the state, the NFL is an organization, and they have their own rules you need to follow, whether or not its legal in the state.

Brewer · 11-09-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

So Police, Fire, Nurses, Dr.s can be stoned on the job if its part of their union or employment contracts?
Just asking. I really dont know.

Yeah, and drunk, too. The ignorance runs high. The law does not REQUIRE marajuana use by all residents. It just decriminalized it to an extent. Don't like the law? Don't spark one. I think a lot of people in this thread would feel better if they sucked a bong. Me? Never tried it, don't care to, and especially don't care if others want to or not.

socalorado · 11-09-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Brewer

Yeah, and drunk, too. The ignorance runs high. The law does not REQUIRE marajuana use by all residents. It just decriminalized it to an extent. Don't like the law? Don't spark one. I think a lot of people in this thread would feel better if they sucked a bong. Me? Never tried it, don't care to, and especially don't care if others want to or not.

I might have confused Beantown. Sorry Bean.
My question is can a Fire Fighter or a Doctor on his off time just spark up a doobie and smoke it in his backyard with other coworkers and not be prosecuted by some union or the state?

Dedhed · 11-10-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

So Police, Fire, Nurses, Dr.s can be stoned on the job if its part of their union or employment contracts?
Just asking. I really dont know.

Are Poilice, Fire, Drs, Nurses allowed to drink on the job under union contracts?

theAPAOps5 · 11-09-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

What about employers hiring in these states?
Do they have the same standards that the military and Soprts organizations have?

Well, currently it is legal to buy alcohol in every state. Yet countless employers have specific regulations stating no alcohol use. This will be the same thing.

socalorado · 11-09-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

Well, currently it is legal to buy alcohol in every state. Yet countless employers have specific regulations stating no alcohol use. This will be the same thing.

Here in CAL most city and counties have a NO-TOBACCO policy that city employees like fire fighters must sign or they will not be offered the job.
There have been a number of incidents where fire fighters have been fired because they brought in pictures from their vacation and they were smoking a cigarette in the pictures and were immediately tested, and fired.

This is why i am asking. Its a healthcare issue to these cities and counties.
Very expensive.

BroncoMan4ever · 11-09-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

What about employers hiring in these states?
Do they have the same standards that the military and Soprts organizations have?

Different businesses will have their own rules on how they feel about weed

Beantown Bronco · 11-09-2012, 11:26 AM

Nothing they can do now. They allowed it to be included in the CBA last year.

If the players really want it, then they can deal with it the next time the CBA comes up for renewal. Maybe by then, more states will jump on board and it might make more sense to negotiate that point.

baja · 11-09-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Nothing they can do now. They allowed it to be included in the CBA last year.

If the players really want it, then they can deal with it the next time the CBA comes up for renewal. Maybe by then, more states will jump on board and it might make more sense to negotiate that point.

How many years before MJ is legal across the nation?

I say two more national election cycles

Beantown Bronco · 11-09-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

How many years before MJ is legal across the nation?

I say two more national election cycles

Fair guess.

I think Vegas needs to start taking action on 50 state legalization of weed vs gay marriage. My money's on weed.

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11-09-2012, 11:16 AM	#1
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	NFL Still Bans Denver Broncos From Marijuana Use Even When It’s Legal; Right Or Wrong? The states of Colorado and Washington have voted to make recreational marijuana legal to 21-year-old residents as long as they only posses one ounce at a time. However, the NFL has told its players that live in these states they are not allowed to use marijuana despite the new laws. Is it right or wrong for the NFL to still make it a banned substance when it is legal in some players’ home states? What does this mean for Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks players? NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear that these states legalizing marijuana will not change anything with the way the league handles drug testing and suspensions. Marijuana has always been on the NFL’s substance abuse list and if tested positive for marijuana, a player faces up to a four-game suspension. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says that’s not about the change Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2012/1...qbymkJcG7JO.99

11-09-2012, 11:17 AM	#2
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	darn shame manning cant light a doobie up after a win

11-09-2012, 11:18 AM	#3
STBumpkin burnin' it at both ends Livin' The Dream Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 757 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Military members in WA and CO cannot use it either. I agree with this, organizations should be able to make their own rules on this. I think something along the lines of our 12 hour bottle-to-brief rule should apply.

11-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#4
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Organizations can make rules as they see fit, IMO.

11-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#5
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,955 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	what a pity. could've been a HUGE FA recruiting tool.

11-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#7
sgbfan Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,002	I agree with it. Its an unfair competitive advantage. Think of the FA signings we could get!

11-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#9
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	No fun league.

11-09-2012, 11:22 AM	#10
Al Wilson Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 937	NFL is its own league, and every player that is in the league has to follow its rules. Simple as it is.

11-09-2012, 11:25 AM	#11
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,209	What about employers hiring in these states? Do they have the same standards that the military and Soprts organizations have?

11-14-2012, 03:43 PM	#16
Broncolt Rookie New to the Forum Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 79 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	i think its right. although its legal in the state, the NFL is an organization, and they have their own rules you need to follow, whether or not its legal in the state.

11-09-2012, 11:26 AM	#23
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,039 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Nothing they can do now. They allowed it to be included in the CBA last year. If the players really want it, then they can deal with it the next time the CBA comes up for renewal. Maybe by then, more states will jump on board and it might make more sense to negotiate that point.