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Old 10-16-2012, 09:19 AM   #1
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Was I the only person who was scratching their head at some of the calls?

1st quarter-
The Rivers "false start" out of shotgun was a phantom call, even after they explained it ... that false start just was NOT THERE at the time the ref threw his flag.
The Rivers "false start" when he was under center ... again, NOT THERE when the flag was thrown.

4th quarter-
The Decker "touching" the defender flag ... really? Some of the Denver DBs were mugging SD receivers and didn't get flagged.


You can say they "offset" each other, and that it all works out in the end, but should we really be reduced to the ref's flagging plays to "make amends" for prior calls?
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:25 AM   #2
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The Decker PI call had me all

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Old 10-16-2012, 10:19 AM   #3
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The Decker PI call had me all...
Live action for some reason I thought he may have pushed off. Replays clearly showed he did no such thing. Terrible call. PM dropping angry F bombs on the sideline after, coupled with the win, almost made it worth it!
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The Decker PI call had me all
That **** was a touchdown, right? I didn't see he get touched or go out of bounds.
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google Jeff Triplet...seriously, **** that guy
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This X 1000. I hate seeing him at Broncos games. He is horrendous.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:27 AM   #7
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Was I the only person who was scratching their head at some of the calls?

1st quarter-
The Rivers "false start" out of shotgun was a phantom call, even after they explained it ... that false start just was NOT THERE at the time the ref threw his flag.
The Rivers "false start" when he was under center ... again, NOT THERE when the flag was thrown.

4th quarter-
The Decker "touching" the defender flag ... really? Some of the Denver DBs were mugging SD receivers and didn't get flagged.


You can say they "offset" each other, and that it all works out in the end, but should we really be reduced to the ref's flagging plays to "make amends" for prior calls?
The under center one I could sort of see, the shotgun call was a complete phantom call. There is a limit to how much you are allowed to simulate the snap and when Rivers got called under center he definitely put his down and came back up like he was getting the ball.

The offensive pass intereference on Decker was a phantom call as well, he in no way interfered with the defenders ability to make the catch - which is something that should be assessed according to the rules.

I couldn't really tell on the first Harris interception if he got a hold of Royal more or less than 5 yards down field, it looked borderline when I saw it live.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:29 AM   #8
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wait... i thought everything was going to be unicorns and rainbows once the regular refs came back and we got rid of the replacement refs?

is the reffing still as bad as it ever was? i'm pretty sure that the only reason the Sparklers didn't get called for holding was because they were not - never, ever - holding Doomervil or any other Bronco.

are you casting aspersions on the regular refs? i may have to report you to Emperor Goodell.
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The under center one I could sort of see, the shotgun call was a complete phantom call. There is a limit to how much you are allowed to simulate the snap and when Rivers got called under center he definitely put his down and came back up like he was getting the ball.

The offensive pass intereference on Decker was a phantom call as well, he in no way interfered with the defenders ability to make the catch - which is something that should be assessed according to the rules.

I couldn't really tell on the first Harris interception if he got a hold of Royal more or less than 5 yards down field, it looked borderline when I saw it live.
Royal initiated the contact on the INT, good no call.

Deckers PI? Someone got paid off

I agree on the 2 Rivers False starts. I thought the shotgun one was a bad call, but he had a pronounced head bob when he was under center.
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Royal initiated the contact on the INT, good no call.

Deckers PI? Someone got paid off

I agree on the 2 Rivers False starts. I thought the shotgun one was a bad call, but he had a pronounced head bob when he was under center.
Maybe it's just my complete bias, but me too. After Tirico read the rule aloud, I have to say I agree with the call. Stupid rule, but right call given the rule.
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Oh, and I LOVED it when the commentators said "Ironically, the QB false start rule was largely introduced to stop Peyton Manning from moving and drawing the opposing D offsides"
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Compared to the replacement refs you could see even this crew's higher quality in how they got almost every close catch and the River's fumble correct live. During the strike the Stokely TD, the Tamme first down all would have been a 50/50 shot of being called incomplete with a 5 minute review following. So they were seeing the game speed fine.

But better game flow doesn't make up for ticky tack penalties. Just really weird in a game with only a couple holding calls made that they were over-the-top on hand gestures and offensive PI.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:14 AM   #13
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Bottom line,

Real refs > replacement refs.
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Bottom line,

Real refs > replacement refs.
Can't believe some people still need this spelled out for them.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:15 AM   #15
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Bottom line,

Real refs > replacement refs.
Clearly, but that doesnt make Jeff Triplette a competent official.
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I saw a segment that had Manning talking into a refs ears for a good 30-40 seconds while he was on the sideline..

Would love to know what he was saying to him..

Almost thought he would get flagged.. That was a very long conversation.. Would love to know if a lip reader could have gotten anything off it..
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:07 PM   #17
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I saw a segment that had Manning talking into a refs ears for a good 30-40 seconds while he was on the sideline..

Would love to know what he was saying to him..

Almost thought he would get flagged.. That was a very long conversation.. Would love to know if a lip reader could have gotten anything off it..
You're over thinking this, he was just selling him a Buick.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:21 PM   #18
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Bottom line,

Real refs > replacement refs.
We know. It is like this example:

DJ Williams > Joe Mays

We aren't happy with it but it is fact. Doesnt mean the "greater then" means he/they are great.


BTW, I read the official game thread from the Chargers site and boy they thought we paid off the refs. Funny how you see things with homer glasses on.
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I thought both of Rivers false starts were ridiculous... neither were even close. Nor was the Decker PI call.

All 3 were real head-scratchers for me, almost like the refs had decided to throw the flag before the play, no matter what.
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I thought the refereeing was terrible, but was a non-factor in the outcome of the game.
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Not defending Boldin by any means, but they missed him recovering his fumble before the pileup.
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Not defending Boldin by any means, but they missed him recovering his fumble before the pileup.
Could this have been challenged? Anyone know? I'm guessing not.
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Could this have been challenged? Anyone know? I'm guessing not.
I'm thinking not challengeable because of the uncertainty of when the whistle was blown, but you could see early on he had it in the reverse angle.

I also think they missed the SD guy in Holliday's face on the muff because I believe he called a fair catch and that guy was all over him.
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I'm thinking not challengeable because of the uncertainty of when the whistle was blown, but you could see early on he had it in the reverse angle.

I also think they missed the SD guy in Holliday's face on the muff because I believe he called a fair catch and that guy was all over him.
Absolutely. It was interference with a fair catch and it's against the rules.

this is why the ref Union fought the NFL on the new contract. The NFL would want to pull a guy like Triplette, who is a mistake machine, but the NFL needs a better training program in place. The refs union wanted no part of it.
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Absolutely. It was interference with a fair catch and it's against the rules.

this is why the ref Union fought the NFL on the new contract. The NFL would want to pull a guy like Triplette, who is a mistake machine, but the NFL needs a better training program in place. The refs union wanted no part of it.
That wasn't fair catch interference, the San Diego player didn't touch him, didn't impede his ability to make a catch by blocking his view of the ball and didn't threaten to run him over. Holliday was late getting to the ball and it came down too far in front of him for his short arms to reach it - sadly that was a mistake by a Denver player, not by the refs.
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