But.... I thought Tebow was the problem. - The Orange Mane

lostknight · 10-07-2012, 03:41 PM

This is a embarrassing game. The Broncos had a total whispering campaign last year that the new England game was Tebow's fault. Now we have the top of the line quarterback, Best in the NFL receivers (or so we are told), and we still sit through this debacle. Led, I would note, by a man who couldn't do anything right in Denver.

McDaniels never fixed Shanahan's mess. He was too concerned about QBs. Fox hasn't fixed McDaniels mess. He was too concerned about QBs. Elway hasn't fixed this this cluster-**** that we call a secondary.

Denver Broncos. Making Josh McDaniels look good.

Edited to note: Of course McDipshiit was a problem.

DomCasual · 10-07-2012, 03:48 PM

You're right. We'd be much better if we'd kept McDaniels as our coach.

lostknight · 10-07-2012, 03:49 PM

McDaniels never fixed Shanahan's mess. He was too concerned about QBs. Fox hasn't fixed McDaniels mess. He was too concerned about QBs. Elway hasn't fixed this this cluster-**** that we call a secondary.

NorCalBronco7 · 10-07-2012, 03:50 PM

Games not over

You ****ing clown

Spider · 10-07-2012, 03:51 PM

see stupidity is still rampant here

maven · 10-07-2012, 03:52 PM

So the OP wants Tebow and McDaniels back.

Agamemnon · 10-07-2012, 03:53 PM

McDaniels sucked as a head coach. Fox isn't really much better.

And no, Tebow was not a problem. He was a young QB trying to figure out how to play in his second scheme (under McCoy mind you) in two years without a proper offseason. Manning >>> Tebow as a passer, that's obvious, but our team's issues are about far more than who is playing quarterback.

lostknight · 10-07-2012, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

McDaniels sucked as a head coach. Fox isn't really much better.

And no, Tebow was not a problem. He was a young QB trying to figure out how to play in his second scheme (under McCoy mind you) in two years without a proper offseason. Manning >>> Tebow as a passer, that's obvious, but our team's issues are about far more than who is playing quarterback.

This is my point. The team and fans being in denial about it are also my point.

maven · 10-07-2012, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostknight

This is my point. The team and fans being in denial about it are also my point.

Do you think Denver should trade for Tebow?

peacepipe · 10-08-2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostknight

This is my point. The team and fans being in denial about it are also my point.

I guess you never got the point either,Tebow was never going to be a QBOTF for denver or any other team. unless he goes to CFL.

Binkythefrog · 10-08-2012, 04:18 PM

We have issues at LB for sure. I wonder if DJ coming back will help it any - Williams at least is better in coverage and at tackling than Mays. But the D held up and played well against Oakland, Pitt, and Atlanta.

New England put up 30 on Baltimore. The Ravens were way better against the run, but I think the Broncos did a little more than the Ravens in the pass game.

Continuity is key in the league - the biggest problem is not talent - but rather scheme and consistency in coaching. Think about the good defenses in the league - most of them have had consistent coaching and schemes. I believe all of our own jobs would be more difficult if we had a new boss every year that wanted our jobs completed in a completely different way with new terminology.

Given our schedule - I think the Broncos have been decent. Of course I think they could play better but at least we're competitive against the best teams in the league and only a couple plays from winning some of those games. Two years ago McD - it would be a prayer if we could keep up with the top teams - at least now we think we can win. I want better results just like any fan - but this season has been fun even with the losses - I like seeing that we're competitive once again.

oubronco · 10-07-2012, 03:55 PM

That's because you and the other Tebowites are fuggin Idiots

KO5K · 10-07-2012, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oubronco

That's because you and the other Tebowites are fuggin Idiots

You mad?

RhymesayersDU · 10-07-2012, 03:58 PM

This should end well.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-07-2012, 03:59 PM

Why would tebow do anything in this game? We aren't forcing punts.

errand · 10-07-2012, 04:08 PM

down by 10 with 6 minutes and two time outs left...(three if you count 2 min. warning)

lostknight · 10-07-2012, 04:20 PM

New England's arrogance was keeping us in it, but yet another problem that the FO supposedly fixed, killed it again.

maven · 10-07-2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostknight

New England's arrogance was keeping us in it, but yet another problem that the FO supposedly fixed, killed it again.

Denver can cut Manning after this year. What do you think we should offer in trade to bring Tebow back?

Br0nc0Buster · 10-07-2012, 04:18 PM

Tebow sucked, you idiots really need to stop rehashing this

theAPAOps5 · 10-07-2012, 04:19 PM

He did suck. Would be 56-0 with him. Stupid thread, as usual.

lostknight · 10-07-2012, 04:23 PM

You are missing my point. Is manning a upgrade. Yes. Did it fix what was wrong with this team? Nope. The guy they threw under the bus didn't have much to do with it either.

Archedamian · 10-07-2012, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostknight

You are missing my point. Is manning a upgrade. Yes. Did it fix what was wrong with this team? Nope. The guy they threw under the bus didn't have much to do with it either.

No truer thing was ever spoken.

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-07-2012, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archedamian

No truer thing was ever spoken.

I dont understand why people think we "threw tebow under the bus" or why youd still want him.

He wasn't good last year and progressively got worse as the season went on. The only reason he had success against Pitt is because they stupidly played a lot of cover zero against him.

We have Peyton, and he's real ****ing good, and we didnt sacrifice anyone to get him. Hopefully Peyton sticks around here another few years and we can build on this. But im not punting this year yet. HOU, ATL, and NE ...two of those games away, and we were in all of them. Lets see how **** plays out. Call me an optimist.

Circle Orange · 10-08-2012, 02:51 PM

I know one thing, getting in these big deficits every week is a killer...you can't expect to make "comebacks" every week. The Pats aren't an overwhelming team, they just formation you to pieces. You get behind, you press...more to the point spend so much energy catching up the team is spent in the 4th quarter.

Time of possession!!! Gotta have more.

RaiderH8r · 10-08-2012, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circle Orange

I know one thing, getting in these big deficits every week is a killer...you can't expect to make "comebacks" every week. The Pats aren't an overwhelming team, they just formation you to pieces. You get behind, you press...more to the point spend so much energy catching up the team is spent in the 4th quarter.

Time of possession!!! Gotta have more.

I am still waiting for the comeback. Waiting...

10-07-2012, 03:41 PM	#1
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	But.... I thought Tebow was the problem. This is a embarrassing game. The Broncos had a total whispering campaign last year that the new England game was Tebow's fault. Now we have the top of the line quarterback, Best in the NFL receivers (or so we are told), and we still sit through this debacle. Led, I would note, by a man who couldn't do anything right in Denver. McDaniels never fixed Shanahan's mess. He was too concerned about QBs. Fox hasn't fixed McDaniels mess. He was too concerned about QBs. Elway hasn't fixed this this cluster-**** that we call a secondary. Denver Broncos. Making Josh McDaniels look good. Edited to note: Of course McDipshiit was a problem. Last edited by lostknight; 10-07-2012 at 03:55 PM..

10-07-2012, 03:49 PM	#3
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	McDaniels never fixed Shanahan's mess. He was too concerned about QBs. Fox hasn't fixed McDaniels mess. He was too concerned about QBs. Elway hasn't fixed this this cluster-**** that we call a secondary. Last edited by lostknight; 10-07-2012 at 03:51 PM..

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10-07-2012, 03:48 PM	#2
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,173 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	You're right. We'd be much better if we'd kept McDaniels as our coach.

10-07-2012, 03:50 PM	#4
NorCalBronco7 Spitting on Raider Fans Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 198 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Games not over You ****ing clown

10-07-2012, 03:51 PM	#5
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	see stupidity is still rampant here

10-07-2012, 03:52 PM	#6
maven ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,757	So the OP wants Tebow and McDaniels back.

10-07-2012, 03:53 PM	#7
Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,441 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	McDaniels sucked as a head coach. Fox isn't really much better. And no, Tebow was not a problem. He was a young QB trying to figure out how to play in his second scheme (under McCoy mind you) in two years without a proper offseason. Manning >>> Tebow as a passer, that's obvious, but our team's issues are about far more than who is playing quarterback.

10-08-2012, 04:18 PM	#11
Binkythefrog Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 310	We have issues at LB for sure. I wonder if DJ coming back will help it any - Williams at least is better in coverage and at tackling than Mays. But the D held up and played well against Oakland, Pitt, and Atlanta. New England put up 30 on Baltimore. The Ravens were way better against the run, but I think the Broncos did a little more than the Ravens in the pass game. Continuity is key in the league - the biggest problem is not talent - but rather scheme and consistency in coaching. Think about the good defenses in the league - most of them have had consistent coaching and schemes. I believe all of our own jobs would be more difficult if we had a new boss every year that wanted our jobs completed in a completely different way with new terminology. Given our schedule - I think the Broncos have been decent. Of course I think they could play better but at least we're competitive against the best teams in the league and only a couple plays from winning some of those games. Two years ago McD - it would be a prayer if we could keep up with the top teams - at least now we think we can win. I want better results just like any fan - but this season has been fun even with the losses - I like seeing that we're competitive once again.

10-07-2012, 03:55 PM	#12
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,604	That's because you and the other Tebowites are fuggin Idiots

10-07-2012, 03:58 PM	#14
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,813 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	This should end well.

10-07-2012, 03:59 PM	#15
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,271 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	Why would tebow do anything in this game? We aren't forcing punts.

10-07-2012, 04:08 PM	#16
errand Ring of Famer Forgot more than you'll ever know Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Western NC mountains Posts: 15,059	down by 10 with 6 minutes and two time outs left...(three if you count 2 min. warning)

10-07-2012, 04:20 PM	#17
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	New England's arrogance was keeping us in it, but yet another problem that the FO supposedly fixed, killed it again.

10-07-2012, 04:18 PM	#19
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,432	Tebow sucked, you idiots really need to stop rehashing this

10-07-2012, 04:19 PM	#20
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	He did suck. Would be 56-0 with him. Stupid thread, as usual.

10-07-2012, 04:23 PM	#21
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	You are missing my point. Is manning a upgrade. Yes. Did it fix what was wrong with this team? Nope. The guy they threw under the bus didn't have much to do with it either.

10-08-2012, 02:51 PM	#24
Circle Orange SPOT ON. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Styxx, D.C. Posts: 3,956	I know one thing, getting in these big deficits every week is a killer...you can't expect to make "comebacks" every week. The Pats aren't an overwhelming team, they just formation you to pieces. You get behind, you press...more to the point spend so much energy catching up the team is spent in the 4th quarter. Time of possession!!! Gotta have more.