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Old 01-03-2012, 07:02 PM   #1
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Still pulling for a loss, eh?

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Old 01-03-2012, 07:07 PM   #4
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What's all this "backing into the playoffs" stuff as well? I mean the Broncos just won 6 straight games and 7 of 8... did people think they'd never lose again?

The teams that beat them had absolutely nothing to lose either. They also ignore the injuries the Broncos have had...

And Tebow had to use every but of his will just to get into a position to "back into the playoffs" after Orton put the team in a huge hole.
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What's all this "backing into the playoffs" stuff as well? I mean the Broncos just won 6 straight games and 7 of 8... did people think they'd never lose again?

The teams that beat them had absolutely nothing to lose either. They also ignore the injuries the Broncos have had...

And Tebow had to use every but of his will just to get into a position to "back into the playoffs" after Orton put the team in a huge hole.

Right, when we were 1-4 and you said that Tebow would go 7-4 you would get laughed at. What was he supposed to go, 9-2? 10-1?
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:12 PM   #6
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Just because someone doesn't think Tebow is good doesn't mean they're hoping we lose.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:17 PM   #7
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Just because someone doesn't think Tebow is good doesn't mean they're hoping we lose.
That may be a bit complicated for Tebonites.
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Haha, well I'd have to say if anyone actually hates him, it's you.
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Haha, well I'd have to say if anyone actually hates him, it's you.
I hate anything and anybody who is hurting our team or has a negative effect on our chances to hoist another lombardi. The kid has heart and drive, but he wasn't ready and isn't ready, and IMO will never pan out. If I'm wrong, it wont be the first time nor the last, and my life will go on.

I wonder if some of his disciples will be able to go on when/if he gets cut.
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I hate anything and anybody who is hurting our team or has a negative effect on our chances to hoist another lombardi. The kid has heart and drive, but he wasn't ready and isn't ready, and IMO will never pan out. If I'm wrong, it wont be the first time nor the last, and my life will go on.

I wonder if some of his disciples will be able to go on when/if he gets cut.
If Tebow bombs I am going to be seriously livid... because it didn't have to be this way. If Tebow had the time to develop like any other QB like Bradford or Cam he would be just fine.. people don't understand that Tebow dominated every level with raw unpolished ability... so when they see him and he looks worse than bad QBs they assume it's because he just sucks.. no.. it's because he never had to change to be successful.. that is something incredible not something to assume he stinks. Then when he got in the NFL they tried to change everything over night and won't let him do the one thing he needs - simply get real playing time in a NFL system.

I really think Tebow might have been better off ig he played in the Canadian league just so he could develop in a NFL offense.. if he had it to do over I bet he goes to Alabama and comes up in a pro style offense.. he would have likely been received totally differently and exploded coming into the NFL rather than in college.
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I wonder if some of his disciples will be able to go on when/if he gets cut.
Don't you get it? We've been told that for years. We've lived the reality that he supposedly doesn't measure up since forever. We were told he wouldn't be drafted, and we made our peace with that. We were told he'd never stop holding a clipboard.

We always knew that if he got a chance, it would be a tough road to hold down a job in the NFL. Ask Griese. Ask Leinart. As David Carr. Ask Joey Harrington.

We've lived with plenty of defeat with Tim Tebow. We're quite aware he doesn't always win, and doesn't always play like the best player.

You should ask yourself, what is it about the guy that inspires people? That makes them feel loyal, and connected. Look for the best in people. Don't assume its a bunch of snake-handlers that like his Christianity. Please. There have been hundreds before him like that.

I submit to you that everything about rooting for Tim Tebow is good. And despite what you think, people above the age of 12 know this sport ends with a lot of disappointment.

That's the human spirit -- it roots on when there's something to go on, knowing it might not work out. But you fight the fight anyway.

And it's been fun already.
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I hate anything and anybody who is hurting our team or has a negative effect on our chances to hoist another lombardi. The kid has heart and drive, but he wasn't ready and isn't ready, and IMO will never pan out. If I'm wrong, it wont be the first time nor the last, and my life will go on.

I wonder if some of his disciples will be able to go on when/if he gets cut.
And this is why you wanted to stick with Orton? Sad that you can't see how assinine your comments are.
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Au contraire Epic. A Bronco fan is someone who wants the team to win. Wants the entire team, coaching staff, fans and city to win a championship. They don't salivate over one player, and blame everyone on the team but that player when he doesn't do well. If I think for a moment Tebow is a negative for the team, and that he has no chance to redeem this team in the future, I will turn on him in a heartbeat, even if I like the kid in general. And I am getting close.

What irritates me is when fans blindly ignore the obvious because they are so enamored with a QB. I've seen it with every QB since Elway. I was high on most of our QBs until they were not going to pan out. I was on Tebow's bandwagon big time, and wanted Orton gone. Now I want a new solution, because I am thinking Tebow is not our answer. Because I want the team to win. The Broncos. This isn't the Denver Tebows. I am a huge fan, and have been since before Elway took a snap, and I'll continue to support the TEAM.
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Au contraire Epic. A Bronco fan is someone who wants the team to win. Wants the entire team, coaching staff, fans and city to win a championship. They don't salivate over one player, and blame everyone on the team but that player when he doesn't do well. If I think for a moment Tebow is a negative for the team, and that he has no chance to redeem this team in the future, I will turn on him in a heartbeat, even if I like the kid in general. And I am getting close.

What irritates me is when fans blindly ignore the obvious because they are so enamored with a QB. I've seen it with every QB since Elway. I was high on most of our QBs until they were not going to pan out. I was on Tebow's bandwagon big time, and wanted Orton gone. Now I want a new solution, because I am thinking Tebow is not our answer. Because I want the team to win. The Broncos. This isn't the Denver Tebows. I am a huge fan, and have been since before Elway took a snap, and I'll continue to support the TEAM.
How many games did orton get the past few seasons and how many has TT got ? Which one has won more. ?

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How many games did orton get the past few seasons and how many has TT got ? Which one has won more. ?

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And that is the difference between a fan of players, and a team fan. I supported Orton, but could admit when he was not doing good things for the team, and said "Ok, get rid of him." And I was a fan for Tebow, and now.. since we have seen a body of work during the season, I can say... I don't think he is the guy either. I am a Bronco fan. Not an Orton fan. Not a Tebow fan.

Bronco fans used to be united. Now they are torn up over stupid, inane, pointless bickering over single players. Mostly the QB position. But I am willing to go through 10 QBs or 15 if we have to, until we find the QB of the future of this team. People can dance around the fact all the like, but the truth is that the QB IS the center of the team. The top teams are almost ALWAYS the teams with the best QBs. And it would be worth even dumping an entire draft, to get one of the blue chip players that has an excellent shot at being the next great QB for the franchise.

I don't hate any Bronco player. I didn't hate Orton, or Cutler, or Plummer, or even Griese (although he made me almost cry in frustration). I support any player on the team, but that doesn't mean I am so BLIND by my fanaticism for a QB, that I will conveniently ignore the inconsistencies and problems they have. Tebow is not showing that he is an NFL ready QB. But many fans are so infatuated with the guy, they will submit to YEARS of being a crappy, barely scraping by team, just to keep him on the roster. And woe to any fan that dares question him. No, blame the coaches, the receivers, the game plan, everything except the QB. Guess I'm a hater for being a realist.
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And that is the difference between a fan of players, and a team fan. I supported Orton, but could admit when he was not doing good things for the team, and said "Ok, get rid of him." And I was a fan for Tebow, and now.. since we have seen a body of work during the season, I can say... I don't think he is the guy either. I am a Bronco fan. Not an Orton fan. Not a Tebow fan.

Bronco fans used to be united. Now they are torn up over stupid, inane, pointless bickering over single players. Mostly the QB position. But I am willing to go through 10 QBs or 15 if we have to, until we find the QB of the future of this team. People can dance around the fact all the like, but the truth is that the QB IS the center of the team. The top teams are almost ALWAYS the teams with the best QBs. And it would be worth even dumping an entire draft, to get one of the blue chip players that has an excellent shot at being the next great QB for the franchise.

I don't hate any Bronco player. I didn't hate Orton, or Cutler, or Plummer, or even Griese (although he made me almost cry in frustration). I support any player on the team, but that doesn't mean I am so BLIND by my fanaticism for a QB, that I will conveniently ignore the inconsistencies and problems they have. Tebow is not showing that he is an NFL ready QB. But many fans are so infatuated with the guy, they will submit to YEARS of being a crappy, barely scraping by team, just to keep him on the roster. And woe to any fan that dares question him. No, blame the coaches, the receivers, the game plan, everything except the QB. Guess I'm a hater for being a realist.

Excellent take & rep.

I am generally in that same boat. Something about the Teebs fans though makes it all worth it if he just goes away. I dont really want him gone but I sure and sh*t want them gone (and not just the clowns here). I just want him playing TE with some very interesting trick plays throughout the game. The leadership and intangibles are definitely worth something not to mention the mismatches he presents in the open field. But something tells me Timmy, the ultimate team guy, wouldnt go for it. Its QB or bust for him, not "wherever coach thinks I can best help the team win."
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And that is the difference between a fan of players, and a team fan. I supported Orton, but could admit when he was not doing good things for the team, and said "Ok, get rid of him." And I was a fan for Tebow, and now.. since we have seen a body of work during the season, I can say... I don't think he is the guy either. I am a Bronco fan. Not an Orton fan. Not a Tebow fan.

Bronco fans used to be united. Now they are torn up over stupid, inane, pointless bickering over single players. Mostly the QB position. But I am willing to go through 10 QBs or 15 if we have to, until we find the QB of the future of this team. People can dance around the fact all the like, but the truth is that the QB IS the center of the team. The top teams are almost ALWAYS the teams with the best QBs. And it would be worth even dumping an entire draft, to get one of the blue chip players that has an excellent shot at being the next great QB for the franchise.

I don't hate any Bronco player. I didn't hate Orton, or Cutler, or Plummer, or even Griese (although he made me almost cry in frustration). I support any player on the team, but that doesn't mean I am so BLIND by my fanaticism for a QB, that I will conveniently ignore the inconsistencies and problems they have. Tebow is not showing that he is an NFL ready QB. But many fans are so infatuated with the guy, they will submit to YEARS of being a crappy, barely scraping by team, just to keep him on the roster. And woe to any fan that dares question him. No, blame the coaches, the receivers, the game plan, everything except the QB. Guess I'm a hater for being a realist.
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And that is the difference between a fan of players, and a team fan. I supported Orton, but could admit when he was not doing good things for the team, and said "Ok, get rid of him." And I was a fan for Tebow, and now.. since we have seen a body of work during the season, I can say... I don't think he is the guy either. I am a Bronco fan. Not an Orton fan. Not a Tebow fan.

Bronco fans used to be united. Now they are torn up over stupid, inane, pointless bickering over single players. Mostly the QB position. But I am willing to go through 10 QBs or 15 if we have to, until we find the QB of the future of this team. People can dance around the fact all the like, but the truth is that the QB IS the center of the team. The top teams are almost ALWAYS the teams with the best QBs. And it would be worth even dumping an entire draft, to get one of the blue chip players that has an excellent shot at being the next great QB for the franchise.

I don't hate any Bronco player. I didn't hate Orton, or Cutler, or Plummer, or even Griese (although he made me almost cry in frustration). I support any player on the team, but that doesn't mean I am so BLIND by my fanaticism for a QB, that I will conveniently ignore the inconsistencies and problems they have. Tebow is not showing that he is an NFL ready QB. But many fans are so infatuated with the guy, they will submit to YEARS of being a crappy, barely scraping by team, just to keep him on the roster. And woe to any fan that dares question him. No, blame the coaches, the receivers, the game plan, everything except the QB. Guess I'm a hater for being a realist.
I fear your measured, reasonable explanation is too rational for the OP. Tebow for life man! OP is so all-in on Tebow that Timmy is practically teabagging his shoulders.
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And that is the difference between a fan of players, and a team fan. I supported Orton, but could admit when he was not doing good things for the team, and said "Ok, get rid of him." And I was a fan for Tebow, and now.. since we have seen a body of work during the season, I can say... I don't think he is the guy either. I am a Bronco fan. Not an Orton fan. Not a Tebow fan.

Bronco fans used to be united. Now they are torn up over stupid, inane, pointless bickering over single players. Mostly the QB position. But I am willing to go through 10 QBs or 15 if we have to, until we find the QB of the future of this team. People can dance around the fact all the like, but the truth is that the QB IS the center of the team. The top teams are almost ALWAYS the teams with the best QBs. And it would be worth even dumping an entire draft, to get one of the blue chip players that has an excellent shot at being the next great QB for the franchise.

I don't hate any Bronco player. I didn't hate Orton, or Cutler, or Plummer, or even Griese (although he made me almost cry in frustration). I support any player on the team, but that doesn't mean I am so BLIND by my fanaticism for a QB, that I will conveniently ignore the inconsistencies and problems they have. Tebow is not showing that he is an NFL ready QB. But many fans are so infatuated with the guy, they will submit to YEARS of being a crappy, barely scraping by team, just to keep him on the roster. And woe to any fan that dares question him. No, blame the coaches, the receivers, the game plan, everything except the QB. Guess I'm a hater for being a realist.
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...are worse than the UF fan invasion. At least the UF fans are pulling for the Broncos to win. Just sayin'.
No people that were Broncos fans before Tebow and ditched their team to become a Tebow fan are the worst. If there was a fire and you could only save Mother Teresa or Tebow who would you pick?
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SOME of the haters are far more sickening. Yea Team Tebow can be annoying but the hate from some around here is ludicrous.

If you want to think the kid will never be a top notch Qb that's cool , but the hate I've seen from some here is seeded in his personal life not on the field and that comes off petty.
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SOME of the haters are far more sickening. Yea Team Tebow can be annoying but the hate from some around here is ludicrous.

If you want to think the kid will never be a top notch Qb that's cool , but the hate I've seen from some here is seeded in his personal life not on the field and that comes off petty.
The fact that most of them spend more time bashing Tebow than talking about the upcoming playoff game (the first in 6 years) tells you all you need to know.
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It's incredibly weird that Cam and Sam Bradford's teammates and fans love them and they are going to be sitting at home while Tebow is in the playoffs...

That should tell you all you need to know about evaluating talent..
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It's incredibly weird that Cam and Sam Bradford's teammates and fans love them and they are going to be sitting at home while Tebow is in the playoffs...

That should tell you all you need to know about evaluating talent..
Tells me the NFC South and NFC West have good teams atop their division while the AFC West is full of average teams.

I can see why Tebow haters are so negative after the last 3 performances but unless you're like.. going into week 17 with a shot at the 1st pick in the draft, why would anyone ever want their team to lose? Let alone in the playoffs? Do these tards not care about the other players on the roster? Our young defenders and offensive line can't benefit from playoff football? It's stupid.
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