fox? - The Orange Mane

broncoblue · 10-30-2011, 02:33 PM

how much to blame lies on him for our embarrassment?
is it dragged over from shanny hangover? dragged over from mcd? mr b?
how did it come to this?

Schism · 10-30-2011, 02:45 PM

He inherited a terrible team with some serious issues, a few days like this were always a possibility sadly.

That's not to say I've been impressed with him so far, but the team he took over sucked a lot.

The bright spot for me has been Allen as DC. I like his style of D, with a good MIKE linebacker and some DB's who (apart from Champ) aren't absolutely terrible I think the D could be good under him. Hopefully Moore and Carter can develop this year and be capable NFL safeties by the time next season starts, and we get someone with eyes and a pair of functional hands to take Goodman's spot.

MVPlaya II - Electric Boogaloo · 10-30-2011, 02:48 PM

Oh course, Fox gets the "inherited" terrible team pass but McDaniels doesn't.

The government is full of hypocrites who play favorites, the people are full of hypocrites who play favorites...

but yet they both b**** at each other.

Wes Mantooth · 10-30-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by command like a KING

Oh course, Fox gets the "inherited" terrible team pass but McDaniels doesn't.

The government is full of hypocrites who play favorites, the people are full of hypocrites who play favorites...

but yet they both b**** at each other.

McDainiels
Cutler gone
Marshall gone
Shefter gone
Hillis gone
Defense never addressed; countless picks wasted.

lonestar · 10-31-2011, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth

McDainiels
Cutler gone
Marshall gone
Shefter gone
Hillis gone
Defense never addressed; countless picks wasted.

Just. Curious how did you plan on paying those skells when their contracts were over. Those plus KUper, doom, Bailey.hell we had to cut salary this past year to get under the cap numbers and do not forget clady, royaL.

Rabb · 11-01-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

Just. Curious how did you plan on paying those skells when their contracts were over. Those plus KUper, doom, Bailey.hell we had to cut salary this past year to get under the cap numbers and do not forget clady, royaL.

did you type this with your ass cheeks?

fontaine · 10-30-2011, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by command like a KING

Oh course, Fox gets the "inherited" terrible team pass but McDaniels doesn't.

Yes, because McDaniels is an arrogant, egomaniacal, power mongering, douche biatch who alienated player and staff alike, while harboring video-taping cheating scum.

Any coach, even good coaches like Fox/Shanahan can lose, but it takes a special kind of classless trash scum to alienate everyone while doing so.

You know what's worse than cheating loser scum? Clowns who support that kind of scum.

** And for the record, McDaniels DID get a pass in his first season, it was his douchebag antics like condoning cheaters that got him fired in his second.

Taco John · 10-31-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by command like a KING

Oh course, Fox gets the "inherited" terrible team pass but McDaniels doesn't.

McDaniels inherited a borderline mediocre team with a young, promising offense. He also inherited more draft picks and cap space than this team has had in its history.

Fox is here to clean up McDaniel's mess.

24champ · 10-31-2011, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

McDaniels inherited a borderline mediocre team with a young, promising offense. He also inherited more draft picks and cap space than this team has had in its history.

Fox is here to clean up McDaniel's mess.

The offense has regressed tremendously under Fox. We are in the bottom of the league far as offense goes. Defense is still the same. The ONLY reason why Fox is the HC is because he was cheap. We didn't go after other coaches because the price tag was too high. Fox was not Elway's first choice.

It sucks, but Broncos organization is in complete disarray. We need wholesale changes all over, and not just patch up jobs that Bowlen/Ellis implements to save money.

baja · 10-31-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 24champ

The offense has regressed tremendously under Fox. We are in the bottom of the league far as offense goes. Defense is still the same. The ONLY reason why Fox is the HC is because he was cheap. We didn't go after other coaches because the price tag was too high. Fox was not Elway's first choice.

It sucks, but Broncos organization is in complete disarray. We need wholesale changes all over, and not just patch up jobs that Bowlen/Ellis implements to save money.

Unfortunately we have the same problem Raider fans suffered from for years, ownership woes.

Sure Bowlen and Davis are polar opposites in style but where they are simular is they grew old and incompetent. We are a headless horse.

gyldenlove · 10-31-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 24champ

The offense has regressed tremendously under Fox. We are in the bottom of the league far as offense goes. Defense is still the same. The ONLY reason why Fox is the HC is because he was cheap. We didn't go after other coaches because the price tag was too high. Fox was not Elway's first choice.

It sucks, but Broncos organization is in complete disarray. We need wholesale changes all over, and not just patch up jobs that Bowlen/Ellis implements to save money.

Not quite true, we have finally gotten a rush offense back again, sadly our pass offense has fallen off the charts completely. There are 3 reasons for this, 1 poor WR play, DT has yet to run a good route this year, Royal has not been getting open at all, it looks like he just doesn't care anymore, and Decker while has has been getting open has been running some wrong routes and not shown elite hands and concentration. Orton was bad and Tebow is worse, between them they have missed a lot of passes.

CBF1 · 10-30-2011, 02:49 PM

Fox was not impressive last season either... I am starting to wonder why we even got him.

MacGruder · 10-30-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

Fox was not impressive last season either... I am starting to wonder why we even got him.

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Originally Posted by baja

When Denver hired Fox that likely sealed Tebow's fate. Fox is the exact wrong coach for Tebow. Fox is as old school as they come. His play calling today shows he does not know how to use Tebow. He didn't give the kid a chance with the play calling. Almost like they want to make him look bad so the fans will shut up when they dump him.

This.

Rigs11 · 10-30-2011, 04:41 PM

Fox just said that he will evaluate as to who starts at qb next weekend

snowspot66 · 10-30-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigs11

Fox just said that he will evaluate as to who starts at qb next weekend

If he goes back to Orton he should be fired immediately. I'd rather watch today's game over and over again than go back to Orton.

Rigs11 · 10-30-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by snowspot66

If he goes back to Orton he should be fired immediately. I'd rather watch today's game over and over again than go back to Orton.

Can we get plummer to come back?

theAPAOps5 · 10-30-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by snowspot66

If he goes back to Orton he should be fired immediately. I'd rather watch today's game over and over again than go back to Orton.

He should be fired for his lack of decision making. You made the change knowing full well that Tebow is raw and very inexperienced. While it may look bad you have to give the guy more time. Now you have two QBs you have given up on.

Eventually players start thinking and not playing because they know they are going to get axed.

That is just my opinion, you just can't flip flop on guys.

Agamemnon · 10-30-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigs11

Fox just said that he will evaluate as to who starts at qb next weekend

Them going back to Orton won't surprise me one bit. Is it good for this franchise's future to do so? Obviously not. And therefore it's the choice they will make. They've established a pattern at this point.

24champ · 10-30-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rigs11

Fox just said that he will evaluate as to who starts at qb next weekend

I want to see him name Quinn as QB, place will go bonkers.

El Guapo · 10-30-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 24champ

I want to see him name Quinn as QB, place will go bonkers.

What about having a battle royal of sorts; give each QB two series to show what they have. Just keep rotating them throughout the whole game. A desperate experiment of sorts.

Blart · 10-30-2011, 03:29 PM

Fox is dealing with a rabid fanbase that's allergic to decent QB's, so that doesn't help.

jhns · 10-31-2011, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Blart

Fox is dealing with a rabid fanbase that's allergic to decent QB's, so that doesn't help.

If only we had a decent QB.

lod01 · 10-30-2011, 03:40 PM

Fox was garbage in carolina and a horrible hire. He fits well with teblow.

Br0nc0Buster · 10-30-2011, 03:47 PM

I really dont think Fox is that bad of a coach

I do think McCoy is that bad at offense though, and right now Tebow is that bad at throwing the ball

sigh

bloodsunday · 10-30-2011, 03:49 PM

Well Lynch is tripping all over himself to point out how badly out coached we were today -- and he used to be a Bronco. The problem is that we are still paying 3 head coaches, Fox is safe.

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10-30-2011, 02:45 PM	#2
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	He inherited a terrible team with some serious issues, a few days like this were always a possibility sadly. That's not to say I've been impressed with him so far, but the team he took over sucked a lot. The bright spot for me has been Allen as DC. I like his style of D, with a good MIKE linebacker and some DB's who (apart from Champ) aren't absolutely terrible I think the D could be good under him. Hopefully Moore and Carter can develop this year and be capable NFL safeties by the time next season starts, and we get someone with eyes and a pair of functional hands to take Goodman's spot.

10-30-2011, 02:48 PM	#3
MVPlaya II - Electric Boogaloo Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 270 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Oh course, Fox gets the "inherited" terrible team pass but McDaniels doesn't. The government is full of hypocrites who play favorites, the people are full of hypocrites who play favorites... but yet they both b**** at each other.

10-30-2011, 02:49 PM	#12
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	Fox was not impressive last season either... I am starting to wonder why we even got him.

10-30-2011, 04:41 PM	#14
Rigs11 Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,829	Fox just said that he will evaluate as to who starts at qb next weekend

10-30-2011, 03:29 PM	#21
Blart I'm gay for the Broncos! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: All @ same time	Fox is dealing with a rabid fanbase that's allergic to decent QB's, so that doesn't help.

10-30-2011, 03:40 PM	#23
lod01 Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 271 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Fox was garbage in carolina and a horrible hire. He fits well with teblow.

10-30-2011, 03:47 PM	#24
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,434	I really dont think Fox is that bad of a coach I do think McCoy is that bad at offense though, and right now Tebow is that bad at throwing the ball sigh

10-30-2011, 03:49 PM	#25
bloodsunday Ring of Famer Nothing lasts forever. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dove Valley Posts: 5,839 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	Well Lynch is tripping all over himself to point out how badly out coached we were today -- and he used to be a Bronco. The problem is that we are still paying 3 head coaches, Fox is safe.