This is definately better that the Pro Jake thread; which is the sequel to the Jake's not to blame thread. Seriously though, I agree with Circle Orange. Men or women, it depends on how you were raised and the crew you run with. My oldest daughter (16) is not one of those frilly girly girl types. She is not afraid to get her hands dirty, and believes in making her own money. She also hates girls who think they need to have a man in their life. I could make a case that it's because I raised her, however I have to give that credit to my best friend. Both their theme song is INDEPENDENT from salt -n- pepa. Then you have my youngest daughter, who at 11, is already learning the fine art of manipulation, lying, money grubbing, everything you hate about women, girly girl. She of course is being raised by my ex, who was a manipulating, lying, cheating, gold digger.
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