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Old 06-11-2005, 12:34 AM   #244
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Originally Posted by RaiderH8r
I said there are some who would suggest that pedophiles, and most criminals, can be and should be rehabilitated. Like I said, I'm not one of them. I didn't post a link to the case studies because in all my years and training in psychology I haven't seen one single case study in pedophilia that would suggest they have been "rehabilitated". I've seen a rare few where they have seen the error of their ways and by sheer force of will manage to keep from entering back into messing with children. This is why I pointed out that I don't buy off on the rehab of pedophiles.
What is the point in mentioning a position that a) has no case studies to back it up... and b) you personally do not agree with?

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Originally Posted by Rascal
This is my final say on this.
Yes it is embarrasing, and horrific, that there were/are people in office who committed such acts serving in a public office. They should be prosecuted to the furthest extent of the law. This shouldn't apply to only pedophiles, but to all crimes committed by politicians of any party. They should not be given a free pass simply because they are politicians...if anything they should be held to a higher standard. Go ahead and arrest their ass and throw them in jail, and while you're at it arrest kennedy AND ANYBODY ELSE who has committed a crime.
You can call it a deflection or whatever, I really don't care what you think, but both parties have members that have committed crimes (varying degrees) and their respective parties have covered for their asses. It is pathetic and embarrassing to America that such people represent us. The fact that some are only focusing on one crime is bothersome. I'm not denying pedophilia is probably the worst crime committed, but someone who murdered or dealt in drugs also needs to be prosecuted and canned regardless of party affiliation.
Both parties have criminals in them, and to suggest otherwise is BS. All criminals, regardless of the degree of the crime, should be prosecuted and removed from office. Regarding those that had prior incidents, it depends on on the crime. Obviously pedophiles, murderers, etc should not be allowed.
Some of you also claim that we, republicans, are endorsing this behavior for not doing anything about it. Well for your information I have inquired about this from my local representative to determine if those listed are still in office and if so why. But it is hypocritical to not apply the same standard to democrats when murderers such as Kennedy are in office. You can call it a deflection or what not, again I don't care, but the fact remains. If you don't do anything about Kennedy being office you are condoning his conduct.
I'm out.
And I gave you your props for taking action, Rascal.


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Originally Posted by bronco_diesel
i get where you are coming from bf....but i also do think they have some relevance to this discussion. you have called out the rebublicans to take action against those that hold office who are on the list...(at least i believe -- such as things like writing our representatives) i agree with you - and i feel anyone who commits such a crime should be punished to the max.

where the relevance comes in - is this is getting labled a party line thing. have you taken the same action towards the folks that w*gs mentioned, as to the folks you have asked "what are you doing about it?"

i think that is where the relevance is....
The reason why I believe something needs to be done by conservatives is the sheer number of names on that list in post #1. When there are that many instances of inappropriate behavior, it looks to me like a problem that needs to be addressed.

Nonetheless, there is no connection that I can see between this thread's topic and the new subject W*GS is attempting to introduce.


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Originally Posted by W*GS
Not "instead of", but "in addition to".
Condemning those Republicans (rightfully so) but overlooking equally-bad scum like Byrd and Kennedy (why? because they're Democrats?) makes you appear to have selective ethics.
When you persist in an effort to hijack this thread's topic instead of starting a new thread for the topic of 30+ year old Dem misdeeds as has been repeatedly suggested, it appears that your intent is to take the attention and heat off the listed Republican pedophiles.
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