You think I was interested enough to go back and read any but the last post once I found it had wandered off Spider's topic? Any broad statement like that gets the same reaction from me. Why people must align themselves with some tribe is pretty much a mystery to me. The majority of people have very similar viewpoints on most issues when it comes down to it. But you can't get there because of the people who have a need to invent the other side's viewpoint.
It's the main reason I avoid these discussions. Neither side offers anything of substance except their own bias.
As soon as I see an individual posting something so stupid as a declarative statement of what millions of people think there is no logic and therefore nothing to debate.
Just once I would love to see the type of exchange where someone simply asks the other person what they think instead of making broad generalizations there is absolutely no way to substantiate. Or, if you are going to go with a broad generalization then begin the sentence with the words I THINK. Take credit for your thoughts and narrow minded viewpoints. Don't feel compelled to drag everyone else along you assume wears your same liberal/conservative label.
Unless the point is just word games without any real substance. If that's the case, carry on...