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Old 07-05-2014, 12:28 PM   #98
A verbis ad verbera
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Where as NY and CA will support big time liberals for the dems. It makes it likely we could have a Dem President for quite some time. Unless Obama is that bad. We will see how much he hurts the overall party soon enough.
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