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Old 09-06-2013, 12:33 PM   #121
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Originally Posted by houghtam View Post
Syria's military is nothing to joke about, relative to the rest of the nations in the region. There is a reason for legitimate concern on their part. They do have a rater extensive and advanced air defense system, but that's about it.

Relative to our military however, even with outright backing from Russia, it's not even a contest. Russia's military has not been able to stand toe-to-toe with the US since 1980 or earlier. Outside of nukes, they haven't been a threat for over a generation.

The only nation in the world that comes even close is China, and even then we way outclass them.
I'm just talking about humans showing a complete incapacity to deal with any issues without resorting to violence. As much as we tout civilization, we're not very civilized at all.

As far as this issue goes, I can't think of a single reason that Syria is of vital interest to the U.S. The Arab League has plenty of wealth and plenty of firepower. So does Israel. Let them deal with it. This atrocity is the reason the UN was created. If it is too cowardly to deal with it, we should withdraw from the organization, stop supporting it, and tell them to find a new home. I suggest they try Beijing.


George Washington: "The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to domestic nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Europe has a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities."

John Quincy Adams: "Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will be America’s heart, her benedictions, and her prayers. But she does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."

Washington also said: "Of all enemies to public liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few."
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