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Old 07-31-2013, 01:33 PM   #36

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Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk View Post
The idea of a right to live for upwards of 40 years for free of a pension from an old job is preposterous. People need to shake out of the idea. Social Security is meant to be supplemental, which is why it's called supplemental. It's not supposed to be lived off of to the exclusion of all else.

Such programs were put into place when people lived much shorter lives than they do now. You simply cannot have tens of millions living off the dole for free and float an economy and medical system. If you can work, you need to be.

If you work for a city government, for example, and retire in 1990, you should not be entitled to live off the dole until you die in 2030. Ridiculous idea. Mooching. Destructive.
Agree and Disgree here:

1. Pensions were a no-brainer, makes sense, no-can-fail employment perk when your local industry dominated their market. When you don't, when you lose so much market share you need bailouts, those Pension all of the sudden become a nail in your coffin. I don't see it as mooching, but retirees had to see the slow train coming doen the tracks and realize they may have to restructure their packages.

2. Social Security, IMHO, should be a true safety net program, and provide the meekest, most vulnerable of our elders to a dignified end to their lives.. it should not be pension for every American, Americans should be incented to save for their own retirement (which most do) and only of last resort get SS money.
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