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Old 05-27-2013, 05:01 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco View Post
You are certainly entitled to your view. I don't share it. Trying to export our values of government into societies with no long held history of democracy or strong political institutions like judiciary's or legislatures often end up in mob rule. To create a successful democratic system requires decades or longer of established institutions in place and it also requires a public willing to engage in rational discourse to find solutions to problems. In other words, it's not for everyone. Our FP should be no different than anyone else' to protect our interests. If we can help eliminate human suffering that's great long as it doesn't conflict with preserving stability or our interests.
In other words, France.

Clementine Churchill: "General, you must not hate your friends more than you hate your enemies"
De Gaulle (in English): "France has no friends, only interests." (De Gaulle did not speak specifically of France, but of all nation-states, including Britain. This remark was in line with his saying "Men can have friends, statesmen cannot").
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