Originally Posted by cutthemdown
Trying to say some dead person, shot by a gunman, might not have had a better chance if he was armed is a joke. It doesn't matter if the room is pitch black you have a better chance to live while someone shooting at you if you also are armed.
No way being unarmed in a theater with a gunman shooting makes you safer then being armed. The gunman shot people after walking right up on them. For sure at that point had the person been armed they would have shot the gunman.
Could people be shot by accident while someone was trying to defend themselvs or others? of course they could that is also 100% reasonable.
In that situation, with those circumstances, with the extensive experience I have in what it actually looks like while a movie is playing and what it looks like in an auditorium when everyone panics, I can say with about 99% certainty that the body count would have been significantly higher had there been one or more concealed weapons in the audience.
Yes. The person holding the gun is always at least a little safer. No one is arguing that. We are arguing the fact that the danger to the surrounding people increases as you add guns to the situation. The vast majority of people with concealed carry permits are not ex-military or ex-law enforcement. They are average shmoes with no tactical training and only a very basic understanding of how to actually make the bullet go where they want it to. They are people who don't have the faintest clue what it feels like to be tear gassed.
No thanks. The group as a whole is safer with bullets only flying in one direction.