Originally Posted by W*GS
I don't see a lot of Real Man behavior here.
I also have yet to see anyone point out where anyone claimed that having a present, responsible father wasn't a good thing. All that was questioned was Doc's contention that absent and/or irresponsible fathers was THE cause of violent crimes (not merely a correlation), which he's yet to provide any evidence for. Plenty of right-wingers in this thread who don't understand the difference between correlation and causation.