Originally Posted by Agamemnon
Are you seriously arguing that neither the U.S. or the U.K. are democracies because they have non-democratic elements to their governments? You seem to have a very puritanical notion of what constitutes a democracy. Any country in which the people vote for government officials is technically a democracy. You don't need to be ancient Athens in which every citizen has equal say in all things to be a democracy.
The US is a Federal Republic. The UK is a Constitutional Monarchy. Unique systems of government with democratic elements. But that does not make either a pure democracy, or make it correct to say the US/UK is a democracy.
Calling the US a democracy is similar to me calling you a chimpanzee. The US has elections. You are a hominid. But I would not be right. You are no more a chimp then the US is a democracy.